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Post by oxfordsimon on Sept 8, 2023 22:13:49 GMT
Another comedy great has left the stage
He was such a part of life for anyone growing up through the 70s
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Post by TallPaul on Sept 9, 2023 9:37:30 GMT
What surprised me is that he was only 82.
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Post by theatreian on Sept 9, 2023 11:35:54 GMT
Yes I remember his shows so we'll. R.I.P.
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Post by jek on Sept 9, 2023 11:49:17 GMT
What surprised me is that he was only 82. Yes, I can't believe that when I was watching him as a ten year old he was only 32. I suppose that is, in part, due to him impersonating older people but I would never have guessed him to be only 22 years older than me.
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Post by cavocado on Sept 9, 2023 11:59:28 GMT
What surprised me is that he was only 82. Yes, I can't believe that when I was watching him as a ten year old he was only 32. I suppose that is, in part, due to him impersonating older people but I would never have guessed him to be only 22 years older than me. Yes, I'm a couple of years younger than you but assumed he was in his 40s and 50s in his heyday. Maybe I was at an age when everyone seemed old to me, or did 'middle aged' start younger then? He was such a big name in those days when every single person I knew watched certain programmes, like his and Morecambe and Wise's Christmas shows. Must have been tough to cope with losing that huge levels of success.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2023 3:27:40 GMT
Mike was only in his early 30's when he was a huge star. I can remember him from late 70's early 80's. A very good impressionist and it appears he had enough and decided to step back. He had issues with drink and stage nerves and probably made the right decision for his own well being.
He cropped up on Bob Monkhouse's final show in 2003 and then the next I heard about him was when I think he turned 80 and was photographed at the actors retirement home. He looked pretty much the same just clearly older and when other photos came out it was clear he was unsteady on his feet and needed support from staff to stand for the photos. But he seemed to be in good spirits and I hope he lived out his retirement in the company of his peers who knew and enjoyed his work.
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Post by Jan on Sept 23, 2023 15:22:43 GMT
.... photographed at the actors retirement home. He looked pretty much the same just clearly older and when other photos came out it was clear he was unsteady on his feet and needed support from staff to stand for the photos. Here he is looking cheerful at Brinsworth House, from the obituaries it seems his latter days there were far happier than those at the height of his fame which is the opposite of how things often are for performers. Next to him is a big 1970s sitcom star - I hesitate to name him as it will make some of us feel very old.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 15:38:20 GMT
Yes that's a nice photo Jan. Richard O'Sullivan a name who would mean nothing to younger people but certainly someone a lot of people of our vintage will recall. Richard was a TV regular with huge sitcoms and his turn as Dick Turpin during 1970's and 1980's. He was of course a child star way back in the 1950's and in a lot of stuff before I can recall him. A bit like Mike when he was in his 50's he seems to have just had enough and given up performing.
Richard was unheard of for years until he sadly had a stroke and ended up at Brinksworth House in 2003 and then was photographed a few years later looking rather old and frail. But in the photos in more recent years he seems to be a lot happier and looking a lot more like we can remember him only older.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Sept 23, 2023 15:59:42 GMT
The stories told and memories shared in that sort of retirement community must be special. A career in the arts is almost inevitably a fragile one and it is rather lovely that homes like this exist for those who shared those experiences.
I know it wouldn't work for every profession but I am glad it does for performers
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Post by Jan on Sept 23, 2023 16:22:09 GMT
The stories told and memories shared in that sort of retirement community must be special. A career in the arts is almost inevitably a fragile one and it is rather lovely that homes like this exist for those who shared those experiences. I know it wouldn't work for every profession but I am glad it does for performers Prompted by the obituaries I checked who else had ended their days at Brinsworth House, they included Dame Thora Hird and the wrestler Mick McManus - both terrific actors.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 22:54:06 GMT
Mick McManus was also the "booker"- the person who decided the matches and results for the wrestling promoters for many years too. I wonder if he was an Equity member as he appeared on a lot of "Entertainment" programmes as a guest over the years, I would have thought some membership of Equity at some time might have been needed to get into one of those homes.
The original Captain Birdseye John Hewer lived out his life at that home too.
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Post by jek on Sept 24, 2023 8:46:53 GMT
The actor Robin Askwith who has had quite the career (including working for Pasolini) sometimes tweets photos of visits to see Richard O'Sullivan. Another 1970s fixture, George Layton often goes on the visits too.
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Post by Jan on Sept 24, 2023 9:22:07 GMT
Mick McManus was also the "booker"- the person who decided the matches and results for the wrestling promoters for many years too. I wonder if he was an Equity member as he appeared on a lot of "Entertainment" programmes as a guest over the years, I would have thought some membership of Equity at some time might have been needed to get into one of those homes. I think it is associated with the Royal Variety Club charity rather than Equity so I assume McManus was involved with that. Maybe you have read the fantastic book by Simon Garfield "The Wrestling" which chronicles that 1970s era ? It really was a form of working-class theatre with a stage (the ring), participants playing characters, and a plot that was part scripted and part improvised. The added factor was that people could be permanently injured or even die in the ring. It was in the great tradition of working-class theatre from the mystery plays, via early outdoor Elizabethan tragedies, through Victorian music hall and melodramas - theatrical entertainments whose audience was predominantly working class and which was sometimes looked down upon by the middle/upper classes. What fulfils that role today ?
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Post by Dawnstar on Sept 24, 2023 12:20:34 GMT
What fulfils that role today? Drunken audience members getting into fights at jukebox musicals?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2023 13:12:29 GMT
Mick McManus was also the "booker"- the person who decided the matches and results for the wrestling promoters for many years too. I wonder if he was an Equity member as he appeared on a lot of "Entertainment" programmes as a guest over the years, I would have thought some membership of Equity at some time might have been needed to get into one of those homes. I think it is associated with the Royal Variety Club charity rather than Equity so I assume McManus was involved with that. Maybe you have read the fantastic book by Simon Garfield "The Wrestling" which chronicles that 1970s era ? It really was a form of working-class theatre with a stage (the ring), participants playing characters, and a plot that was part scripted and part improvised. The added factor was that people could be permanently injured or even die in the ring. It was in the great tradition of working-class theatre from the mystery plays, via early outdoor Elizabethan tragedies, through Victorian music hall and melodramas - theatrical entertainments whose audience was predominantly working class and which was sometimes looked down upon by the middle/upper classes. What fulfils that role today ? Yes Mick was involved with the Royal Variety Club or certainly the Lords Taverners he took part in a number of All Star Its A Knockout type events on TV over the years and was as well known as many of the top actors/entertainers back in the day. For many years he was always on the FA Cup Final wrestling shows and he made the most appearances on the ITV/World of Sport Wrestling out of anybody - again because he was the booker for these shows probably helped. I can remember the Simon Garfield book, it interviewed pretty much everyone who was still alive who had been part of the wrestling glory years. Sadly none of those guys made a lot of money out of it, the bookies William Hill owned the main promoters for many years so were the ones to do well out of it.
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Post by Jan on Sept 24, 2023 13:30:58 GMT
I can remember the Simon Garfield book, it interviewed pretty much everyone who was still alive who had been part of the wrestling glory years. Yes. And what they all said was "Les Kellett was a horrible person, as you will find out to your cost, but people laughed at him. You could not meet a more horrible person in your life. He was just horrible.". Interested to read in the Brian Glover interview (who was Leon Arras as a wrestler) that Trevor Nunn cast him as the wrestler Charles in his production of As You Like It (in 1977).
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Post by altamont on Sept 24, 2023 19:06:19 GMT
Watching the Burton/Taylor Cleopatra a few months ago, I was amazed when a 19 year old Richard O'Sullivan turned up as the pharoah Ptolemy. I'm very glad that he now looks happier than the photos a few years ago suggested
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2023 23:24:39 GMT
I can remember the Simon Garfield book, it interviewed pretty much everyone who was still alive who had been part of the wrestling glory years. Yes. And what they all said was "Les Kellett was a horrible person, as you will find out to your cost, but people laughed at him. You could not meet a more horrible person in your life. He was just horrible.". Interested to read in the Brian Glover interview (who was Leon Arras as a wrestler) that Trevor Nunn cast him as the wrestler Charles in his production of As You Like It (in 1977). Les Kellett didn't become a star until he was well into his 50's and despite his comic antics he was a legit hard man. A lot of the other guys were pretty scared of him and would keep out of his way in the dressing room. Brian Glover of any British wrestler probably had the best mainstream acting career - Kes, numerous stage roles, Tetley Tea Bag voiceovers, Alien 3 etc. He was also taught English and French for 15 years at the same school where Barry Hines who wrote A Kestrel for a Knave also taught and Barry suggested Brian for the part of the PE Teacher in Kes. I only just read tonight that Brian taught French so that made total sense with the Leon Arras the man from Paris wrestling name he used. Also the fact that he was the original Dindon in the London production of La Cage Aux Folles. The thought of Brian in drag as Dindon having to dance through the gay club to get away from the press makes me laugh thinking about it.
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Post by Jan on Sept 25, 2023 7:00:56 GMT
Brian Glover of any British wrestler probably had the best mainstream acting career I agree but Pat Roach ran him close - most famously as Bomber in Auf Wiedersehen Pet but he was also in the Indiana Jones films and the Stanley Kubrick classics A Clockwork Orange and Barry Lyndon and several other blockbuster films including a James Bond. I also remember him being very good in the TV film The Last Place on Earth about Scott's polar expedition.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2023 22:38:17 GMT
Pat was in a huge amount of films. I hadn't been aware of his work in Kubrick films until after his death. Pat probably did more films than Brian but Brian maybe had edge with stage work. Pat owned a gym within a mile of where I live and was often in the local press with his acting, wrestling, business interests or supporting charities.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2023 11:15:47 GMT
I rewatched Mike from his surprise appearance on Bob Monkhouse's Last Stand in 2003. Mike seemed a bit nervous but soon settled back into doing some of his most famous voices and it was clear the esteem that Bob and Mike held each other in. Mike also got chance to perform in front some of the younger generation of impressionists who were in the audience that night and in the updated interviews they all said how they had admired Mike's work.
Mike spoke frankly to Bob about his off stage issues and it certainly seemed that he was in a much better place having stepped back and talked about enjoying time with his daughters and grandchildren. Bob sadly died later that year but Mike had another 20 years but I don't think he ever perfomed publically again. But it was wonderful to see the govenors of stand up and impressions having one final meeting and the warm and appreciation the younger generation of comedy performers in the audience gave them.
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Post by Jan on Sept 27, 2023 12:41:44 GMT
I rewatched Mike from his surprise appearance on Bob Monkhouse's Last Stand in 2003. Mike seemed a bit nervous but soon settled back into doing some of his most famous voices and it was clear the esteem that Bob and Mike held each other in. Mike also got chance to perform in front some of the younger generation of impressionists who were in the audience that night and in the updated interviews they all said how they had admired Mike's work. Mike spoke frankly to Bob about his off stage issues and it certainly seemed that he was in a much better place having stepped back and talked about enjoying time with his daughters and grandchildren. Bob sadly died later that year but Mike had another 20 years but I don't think he ever perfomed publically again. But it was wonderful to see the govenors of stand up and impressions having one final meeting and the warm and appreciation the younger generation of comedy performers in the audience gave them. Yes that Monkhouse show was good but personally I could have done without the minor celebrity talking heads interrupting the performance. Monkhouse’s autobiography is very good despite (or because of) the fact that someone who knew him told me recently that many of the more lurid anecdotes in it were untrue. He did tell me some eye-opening ones that weren’t in the book though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2023 17:48:26 GMT
Bob for many years I always thought of as a game show host who could be very funny. But how funny he was only ever came across when he was on chat shows. Bob could do shows so smoothly that people didn't realise how good he was. Luckily he went back to comedy in later years when we learnt just how many jokes he had written and got to see him as the true comedy great he was.
I haven't read any books about him but have seen in the press that he was supposed to have had a lot of affairs during his first marriage. Why Bob would need to make his autobiography more sexualised I have no idea, he could have made jokes or used his famous one liners about everyday things and it would have still been funny.
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Post by bimse on Oct 23, 2023 12:55:25 GMT
Interesting programme about Mike Yarwood, but I was surprised and disappointed that there was no mention of his many stage appearances, including many lengthy and successful summer and Christmas seasons. He wasn’t one for pantomime, although he did at least a couple, and he did a tour of a farce, One for the Pot, with Barry Howard after his tv shows ended. I saw him a couple of times in summer season, and his was a very funny and accomplished act . The tv programme concentrated entirely on his tv shows .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2023 17:45:34 GMT
I saw the show previewed on-line, hopefully get to watch it in next few days. In Mike's era a summer season would have been a very lucrative earner for a top performer. The TV work was well paid but taxes were much higher than and a lot of performers did TV work to get known so people would come to their tours.
With comedy stars these days doing huge arenas, I wonder what the likes of the top stars such as Mike, Eric and Ernie in their era could have drawn with bigger arenas to play in.
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