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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2023 14:16:17 GMT
I suspect more and more actors/artists are going to have to think very hard about this issue when they're making final plans. I can imagine that when there is dissent between surviving relatives, factions could be manipulated and played off of each other as long as there is the technology to resurrect the image/voice and money to be made. Think about how Michael Jackson was practically broke when he died, but now his estate has turned the finances around with multiple new licensing deals and he's in the top three of dead celebrity earners. Very weird world.
I guess a will would override the wishes of surviving family members to potentially cash in on their deceased relatives likeness. The was always the like Jacko was worth more dead than alive although those London shows would have made him a fortune. I also heard that apparently Will-Iam wouldn't release demos that he and Michael had been working on to Jacko's estate as they were incomplete and he felt Michael wouldn't want them to heard by his fans as they weren't yet up to his required standards. |
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Post by crowblack on Jul 20, 2023 13:50:27 GMT
Popular tweets on this today: "Extreme tinfoil hat theory is that studios have been juicing their streaming numbers and they don’t want to pay residuals on a ton of fake views" "They’re in a bind.
Admit to shareholders numbers are inflated. Lose value. Pay less residuals. Keep inflating numbers. Shareholders happy, have to start paying creatives more."
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Post by crowblack on Jul 20, 2023 19:58:35 GMT
Also seeing on Twitter a lot of anger about Universal studios apparently cutting back the leaves on trees by the studio that were providing shade for strikers (and nesting habitat for birds, which may mean this is unlawful).
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Post by sukhavati on Jul 21, 2023 6:32:33 GMT
I heard 'Johnny Cash sings Barbie Girl' on the radio yesterday. I was also wondering, how far off are we from a situation where we could simply scan in, say, some old 2000AD stories from the comics and AI would use them as a storyboard and create a movie? Or a novel - choose your actors, choose a directorial style: whatever wills and agreements hold regarding legal licences in the US won't mean much in a globalised world (for example, there's a Russian ad at the mo using a living Hollywood star's AI likeness). AI already being trained on novels. Guess you haven't seen this one yet...
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Post by sukhavati on Jul 21, 2023 6:36:20 GMT
Also seeing on Twitter a lot of anger about Universal studios apparently cutting back the leaves on trees by the studio that were providing shade for strikers (and nesting habitat for birds, which may mean this is unlawful). Yes, apparently there were no permits for tree trimming issued by the city.
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Post by teamyali on Jul 21, 2023 11:31:31 GMT
There’s currently an Equity UK rally in London and Manchester in solidarity with SAG-AFTRA:
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2023 21:24:10 GMT
Interesting Andy Serkis is there if strike is about AI given all the work he has done with motion capture and advanced technology.
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Post by sukhavati on Jul 25, 2023 2:00:09 GMT
Interesting Andy Serkis is there if strike is about AI given all the work he has done with motion capture and advanced technology. Andy is known and he's credited in his work, as he has speaking parts, plus he's done a lot of behind the scenes bits for DVD's and infotainment programmes. He understands what's possible, so it's to his credit that he's supporting people with far less power in the industry.
For entry level jobbing actors, especially those trying to break into both the industry and union, the issue is producers wanting to take scans of background players and have the perpetual rights to use that image in any future product without paying them again, let alone crediting them. Anyone who doesn't have a speaking role doesn't have to be credited, therefore they won't qualify for residuals down the road.
It's one thing when George Lucas has a team using CGI to fill the stands or Galactic Senate in Star Wars films. I think it's another when one scan (or dozens) are inserted on a quotidian pavement scene or a shopping scene, rather than hire background actors. Los Angeles is an expensive city - it's hard enough to make it there without steady work, and these producers/studio executives have second and third homes plus access to private jets. They don't want to pay creatives what they're worth and are essentially trying to take creative jobs away from the people who can least afford it, all while living the high life themselves. They're as bad as Cameron Mackintosh cutting everyone loose during the lockdown.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2023 15:50:09 GMT
Good points Sukhavti, I think you have hit the nail on the head. Film makers could have stock digital profiles of people they use for crowd scenes and the people used don't get paid for their likeness being used over and over again. Scanning one person and using them as the generic base for a crowd shot is different as ILM used to do or how Andy Serkis did the Ape Films etc.
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Post by sukhavati on Jul 27, 2023 3:26:20 GMT
I have to share this. Two of the people in the Bridgerton rally are acquaintances. The lady in sunglasses in the centre with a fan that reads "on strike" is a scriptwriter and her actress daughter is just to her left. They've both worked on UK based projects for ITV and Amazon. The Deadline story didn't mention that Julia Quinn, the author of the Bridgerton novels, sent a food truck to the Netflix office where they were demonstrating, and she paid for the whole picket line to be fed. Lovely gesture.
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Post by crowblack on Jul 27, 2023 10:44:32 GMT
Is there any likelihood of writers, actors forming their own production studios like early Hollywood's United Artists or UPA (the latter founded by animators in the 1940s after a strike)?
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Post by Jon on Jul 27, 2023 12:26:04 GMT
Is there any likelihood of writers, actors forming their own production studios like early Hollywood's United Artists or UPA (the latter founded by animators in the 1940s after a strike)? Not unless they have billions to bankroll it. The studios today are owned by huge corporations. |
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Post by crowblack on Jul 28, 2023 22:54:37 GMT
Seeing a few films already finished having their openings pushed back from their scheduled Autumn / Winter 2023 release dates into 2024. Might give indies / UK films more of a chance to shine though.
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Post by crowblack on Jul 29, 2023 11:11:31 GMT
I'm hearing of others due to be premiered at the Venice film festival next month shifting to next Spring or date unknown, September's Emmys postponed. My brother works on the promotional photography side of films and TV in the UK so he is obviously reporting the impact on that whole sector here too (promo images, posters, fashion mag shoots with the stars etc).
What are the impacts on theatre? Many UK actors are involved in (committed to?) halted or postponed US-led productions so presumably that will cause problems with involvement any upcoming UK film, TV and theatre work?
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Post by teamyali on Jul 29, 2023 15:20:03 GMT
The one effect I can see is that there will be more demand for stage work, especially for the celebs or the currently popular screen actors returning to the West End or Broadway. It was announced a few days ago that Sarah Paulson is returning to Broadway in the play “Appropriate”, to be staged by Second Stage Theater (2ST), which is one of the nonprofit companies on Broadway I think. Sarah is well-known for her TV work by creator Ryan Murphy (American Horror Story, American Crime Story, Ratched), although she started her career on stage.
There are rumors that Spamalot is getting a Broadway revival this season. Perhaps Hannah Waddingham is free this time?
As for the West End, we often see the usual suspects - David Tennant, Mark Gatiss, Mark Rylance, Sheridan Smith, Ruth Wilson, etc. So I think they’re fine. My only wish list is Olivia Colman will return to theatre!
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Post by crowblack on Jul 29, 2023 18:24:45 GMT
I'm hoping it will prompt some sort of strengthening of homegrown UK independent cinema and production: we lost that rich landscape in recent years, and it would be great to get it back.
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Post by Jon on Jul 29, 2023 23:37:57 GMT
In regards to actors doing more theatre, I imagine a lot of them would be reluctant to commit just in case the strike ends and I imagine anyone who was filming something is contractually obliged not to do other work during this period. Olivia Colman mentioned when she did a panel for Mosquitos that the reason she didn't do much theatre was because of the scheduling and theatre is a big commitment and mostly evening based.
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Post by talkingheads on Aug 25, 2023 7:12:34 GMT
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Post by crowblack on Aug 27, 2023 20:08:31 GMT
I wonder how this will play with the upcoming elections? Less celebrity news and events, more airtime for the Trump show?
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Post by teamyali on Nov 9, 2023 0:54:46 GMT
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Post by Jon on Nov 9, 2023 1:52:56 GMT
We'll likely see some actors having to withdraw from plays due to scheduling conflicts from production resuming. Daryl McCormack comes to mind as he's in Twisters which I would imagine would take priority over Long Day's Journey although depends on how big his role is, they might be able to shoot around him if they don't plan to resume production until the Summer.
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