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Post by andrew on Nov 23, 2022 11:35:45 GMT
Offensively expensive at the Pinter. Some sub-par seats on for £65 as if thats sort of the budget price.
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Post by mikey on Nov 23, 2022 11:42:33 GMT
Offensively expensive at the Pinter. Some sub-par seats on for £65 as if thats sort of the budget price. I agree. Loved the book, would love to see the play - but definitely not at those prices..
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 23, 2022 12:16:43 GMT
I don’t get how Omari Douglas gets these gigs. He’s a terrible actor.
His agent must go to all the right parties.
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Post by thistimetomorrow on Nov 23, 2022 12:23:38 GMT
I liked Omari in Constellations and 'It's A Sin', but I didn't really like him in Cabaret.
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Post by foxa on Nov 23, 2022 12:30:45 GMT
You all are bad for my pocketbook! I wasn't going to book, but then remembered I had a small refund credit with ATG so put that towards a couple of rear stalls seats (Row Q) in Richmond - still more than I would usually pay but FOMO plus James Norton wins out!
(Currently good availability at Richmond and booking was quick/easy)
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Post by andrew on Nov 23, 2022 12:31:39 GMT
I liked Omari in Constellations and 'It's A Sin', but I didn't really like him in Cabaret. His character in Cabaret is such a wet lettuce, I feel like I don't want to judge him on it. I think he's a good actor but he's also a bit zeitgeisty right now like all the It's A Sin cast. Looking forward to (if I can afford it) seeing him in this.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2022 12:49:41 GMT
Honestly, being farther back might be a good thing if this production retains the intensity of some of the scenes. I was six rows back at the recent BAM production and had to look away several times despite having a strong constitution for blood and the like.
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Post by Dave B on Nov 23, 2022 14:01:47 GMT
3h 40m running time per the play's Twitter account.
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Post by intoanewlife on Nov 23, 2022 16:23:59 GMT
Booked for the Tuesday in Richmond, lets hope it's better in preview week than Who Killed My Father was.
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Post by bordeaux on Nov 23, 2022 19:49:33 GMT
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Post by stevemar on Nov 23, 2022 20:16:38 GMT
Thanks for posting the link to the interview @juicy_but_terribly_drab . I found it really provocative and interesting, and for me, certainly made me want to go.
James Norton was terrific in Bug (paranoia and some shocks), so really looking forward to seeing him and Almeida wunderkind Luke Thompson.
Booked for Richmond due to the price differential, though I would normally like to see shows later in the run when the performances have matured.
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Post by AddisonMizner on Nov 23, 2022 20:38:21 GMT
When is press night?
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Post by stevemar on Nov 23, 2022 20:54:20 GMT
ATG shows 30 March as sold out and 1830 (not 1900) performance so I think its a reasonable assumption it is planned or then.
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Post by AddisonMizner on Nov 23, 2022 21:27:15 GMT
Thank you.
All booked for April. Really looking forward to it, and with a great cast too!
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Post by anxiousoctopus on Nov 23, 2022 22:06:25 GMT
I’ve never heard of this book so decided to look up the plot synopsis and wow that’s… a lot!
I’m sure it’s a great book and well written but wow that plot is just a misery-porn conga. I’ve seen over the top angst fanfiction with similar levels of ‘oh and they’re abused, oh and they get hit by a car, oh and they get even MORE abused and then their whole family is exploded by a bomb and then they try and kill themselves several times’ (this isn’t what happens btw, but it’s along those lines)
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Post by Jon on Nov 23, 2022 22:13:34 GMT
I’ve never heard of this book so decided to look up the plot synopsis and wow that’s… a lot! I’m sure it’s a great book and well written but wow that plot is just a misery-porn conga. I’ve seen over the top angst fanfiction with similar levels of ‘oh and they’re abused, oh and they get hit by a car, oh and they get even MORE abused and then their whole family is exploded by a bomb and then they try and kill themselves several times’ (this isn’t what happens btw, but it’s along those lines) That sounds like A Series of Unfortunate Events on crack!
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Post by stevemar on Nov 23, 2022 22:28:29 GMT
I’ve never heard of this book so decided to look up the plot synopsis and wow that’s… a lot! I’m sure it’s a great book and well written but wow that plot is just a misery-porn conga. I’ve seen over the top angst fanfiction with similar levels of ‘oh and they’re abused, oh and they get hit by a car, oh and they get even MORE abused and then their whole family is exploded by a bomb and then they try and kill themselves several times’ (this isn’t what happens btw, but it’s along those lines) I think you should copyright “misery-porn conga”. I guess for me, the way a person/character deals with the events is what interests me. The “joke” I used to make with my friends is that all the shows I took them to involved death, suicide or betrayal (or all of these…).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2022 22:41:05 GMT
It's less "misery porn conga" and more the reality that some people experience serial abuse, and in turn, engage in self-harm for a variety of reasons.
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Post by marob on Nov 23, 2022 23:53:08 GMT
Sounds like the main character goes from one ordeal to another, which makes me think of seeing Cleansed at the NT a few years ago. Rather than making me feel for the characters the violence there just made me very aware I was watching some actors pretending to be tortured. I just couldn’t connect to it emotionally at all.
I find Van Hove very hit-and-miss, but looks a pretty decent cast. Definitely intrigued, but still not sure I want to sit through nearly 4 hours of this.
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Nov 24, 2022 14:31:15 GMT
Once was enough for me; won't be going to the London version/transfer. I already have a feeling which character Zubin Varla will play and his booming voice reminds me of the Dutch counterpart. (I thought that was very cleverly done - without giving too much away)
To echo what has already been said yesterday - it is by far the most graphic, shocking thing I've seen onstage. I was sat far away at the ITA and still struggled to watch those scenes. Wouldn't recommend being close up (appreciate it's a personal choice)
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Post by londonpostie on Nov 24, 2022 15:02:00 GMT
You put your left leg in, your left leg out ..
It's a band name, at very least.
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Post by alessia on Nov 24, 2022 16:50:51 GMT
I’ve never heard of this book so decided to look up the plot synopsis and wow that’s… a lot! I’m sure it’s a great book and well written but wow that plot is just a misery-porn conga. I’ve seen over the top angst fanfiction with similar levels of ‘oh and they’re abused, oh and they get hit by a car, oh and they get even MORE abused and then their whole family is exploded by a bomb and then they try and kill themselves several times’ (this isn’t what happens btw, but it’s along those lines) it is indeed misery/abuse porn. also very badly written and full of implausible stuff and plot holes.
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Post by lemiz1862 on Nov 24, 2022 18:34:45 GMT
I’ve never heard of this book so decided to look up the plot synopsis and wow that’s… a lot! I’m sure it’s a great book and well written but wow that plot is just a misery-porn conga. I’ve seen over the top angst fanfiction with similar levels of ‘oh and they’re abused, oh and they get hit by a car, oh and they get even MORE abused and then their whole family is exploded by a bomb and then they try and kill themselves several times’ (this isn’t what happens btw, but it’s along those lines) it is indeed misery/abuse porn. also very badly written and full of implausible stuff and plot holes. I didn't realise all plays had to have plausible things happen to the characters?
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Post by alessia on Nov 25, 2022 10:50:48 GMT
it is indeed misery/abuse porn. also very badly written and full of implausible stuff and plot holes. I didn't realise all plays had to have plausible things happen to the characters? I haven't seen the play, I was referring to the book. Considering how badly written it is, I imagine the play can only improve the story, especially if it focuses on the first half. I of course can buy implausibility, just not as much as Yanagihara packs into this book.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2022 11:10:40 GMT
I'd be thrilled to create a book as "badly written" as A Little Life considering the sales it generated and acclaim it received. Of course it is perfectly fine that some people do not like it, but a great many found it to be a masterpiece.
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Post by andrew on Nov 25, 2022 11:28:12 GMT
I didn't realise all plays had to have plausible things happen to the characters? I haven't seen the play, I was referring to the book. Considering how badly written it is, I imagine the play can only improve the story, especially if it focuses on the first half. I of course can buy implausibility, just not as much as Yanagihara packs into this book. The book isn't set in a particular time, what happens to any of the characters isn't realistic, I took these to be deliberate choices and let it happen. I'd never read it again but I did find reading it a very cathartic experience. It's not the same, but I'm reminded of Les Miserables (the book more than the show) which is completely littered with coincidences and implausibility, and my understanding as a reader is that there is supposed to be a slightly magical quality to what's happening, it is an artifice of the novel. But I can 100% understand why someone would hate the book and 100% support anyone saying they're not interested in seeing the play. I can't wait!
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Post by intoanewlife on Nov 25, 2022 11:56:23 GMT
Abuse is a funny old thing isn't it.
Those trapped in a cycle of it never seem to know how they got into it or how to get out of it and those who've never experienced it always seem to know everything about it and have the all answers despite knowing absolutely nothing about it.
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Post by alessia on Nov 25, 2022 12:16:13 GMT
Abuse is a funny old thing isn't it. Those trapped in a cycle of it never seem to know how they got into it or how to get out of it and those who've never experienced it always seem to know everything about it and have the all answers despite knowing absolutely nothing about it. If that was referred to me, how do you know anything about what I have or have not experienced?
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Post by intoanewlife on Nov 25, 2022 12:22:25 GMT
Abuse is a funny old thing isn't it. Those trapped in a cycle of it never seem to know how they got into it or how to get out of it and those who've never experienced it always seem to know everything about it and have the all answers despite knowing absolutely nothing about it. If that was referred to me, how do you know anything about what I have or have not experienced? It was not aimed at anyone which is why I didn't quote anyone. I do dislike the term 'misery/torture porn' used on this particular subject matter though considering how damaging the effects of childhood abuse can be on some people and the horrible adult lives they live because of it.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Nov 25, 2022 15:29:07 GMT
The events portrayed in the book are very very similar to my own upbringing and life (except obviously I didn’t die), and the fact I have personally experienced those events is the very reason I hate the book and consider it Misery Porn.
It very obviously was written by someone without any personal experience of the things she’s writing about, and while normally I applaud writers being able to write characters very different from themselves (an able-bodied Asian-American woman raised by a father who was a respected doctor, writing a disabled white gay man raised without any family), but in this case the nature of the material coupled with the lack of authenticity made it feel deeply exploitative and shallow. Imo obviously.
Fwiw, and obviously this is anecdotal, all the people I know who experienced the same things as Jude, dislike the book. The only people I know who adore it come from very comfortable and privileged backgrounds and really do seem to see the book as a kind of dark tourism of literature. I’m sure there are exceptions. But it does seem like the most pushback against the book is coming from actual abuse survivors.
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