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Post by inthenose on Oct 25, 2022 12:23:23 GMT
Truss played it for laughs mimicking Bozo by quoting a Roman philosopher in her parting speech (if that can really be called speech), then f***ing up trying to pronounce Seneca! Fulfilling expectations to the last second. (Fancy making your teenage daughters stand through such embarrassment. I hope they negotiated a better economic deal for themselves than Mumma seems capable of.) A very fitting end to the worst PM in British history.
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Post by talkingheads on Oct 25, 2022 13:03:58 GMT
Jacob Rees Mogg and Brandon Lewis have resigned, while disgraced Cruella Braverman is lining up to become home secretary, presumably she's a good fit because she was sacked a week ago for a security breach, just who we want back in charge, eh?
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Post by Jon on Oct 25, 2022 13:05:09 GMT
Hunt surely staying in the Treasury. Who do we think for other major offices? Raab and Javid be in the mix? Foreign I reckon it’ll be either Javid or Mordaunt. BEIS is going to Shapps, seems like a demotion to me.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Oct 25, 2022 15:44:10 GMT
Hunt surely staying in the Treasury. Who do we think for other major offices? Raab and Javid be in the mix? Foreign I reckon it’ll be either Javid or Mordaunt. BEIS is going to Shapps, seems like a demotion to me. Nobody saw James Cleverly staying in the foreign office.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Oct 25, 2022 16:36:29 GMT
Foreign I reckon it’ll be either Javid or Mordaunt. BEIS is going to Shapps, seems like a demotion to me. Nobody saw James Cleverly staying in the foreign office. Braverman also?? He's not even trying
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Post by Jon on Oct 25, 2022 16:36:39 GMT
Tofu hating Suella is back as well.
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Post by jojo on Nov 1, 2022 8:02:47 GMT
Tofu hating Suella is back as well. I'd question for how long, but her appointment was clearly a condition of ERG support, so she'll be hard to shift without things getting messy. And now we're back to using disgusting language to dehumanise refugees to distract from bad government. There's nothing like a few days of disproportionate focus on a fabricated 'migrant crisis' and blaming the French to get the racists to forget that it's the Tory government and their useless policies that have led to the actual economic crisis and all of the very real problems people are facing in their day to day lives or that they are threatening to end the right to maternity or even regular annual leave.
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Post by sfsusan on Nov 1, 2022 8:19:15 GMT
... And now we're back to using disgusting language to dehumanise refugees to distract from bad government. There's nothing like a few days of disproportionate focus on a fabricated 'migrant crisis' and blaming the French to get the racists to forget that it's the Tory government and their useless policies that have led to the actual economic crisis and all of the very real problems people are facing in their day to day lives or that they are threatening to end the right to maternity or even regular annual leave. Is it just me or are they following the 'lead' of the Republicans in the US? Hopefully, after our midterm elections next week, it will be clear that's not a popular position.
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Post by jojo on Nov 1, 2022 8:48:28 GMT
The irony being that most of the people getting worked up about too many migrants will have voted for Brexit in the hope of reducing it. And yet here we are demanding France does more - a country that now has less obligation to work with us.
And Brexit means we've got a labour shortage. Most refugees want to work, and could work, and in some cases have very valuable skills. Move them out of the detention centres into proper facilities and help them to find work in areas where there are shortages. It would save public money and boost the economy.
But that requires treating refugees as human beings, and if you do that then you can't blame them for all of our woes.
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Post by londonpostie on Nov 1, 2022 10:51:39 GMT
France can be a bit ropey but not completely sure you can say people fleeing the EU are "refugees". jojo, have you got a spare sofa/bed, we have 300,000 people on re/housing lists, just in London - disabled, families with 3 children living in one-bed flats, so many with over-powering mental health issues, etc, living in chaos and despair. 300,000 is the size of an inner London borough. Here is the link for you, you have my admiration: www.roomforrefugees.com/
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Post by jojo on Nov 1, 2022 11:47:07 GMT
I work with the people who assess homes for suitability for accepting refugees as guests, but I'm afraid I don't meet the criteria. I do, however, help in other ways. That includes doing my bit to minimise the reasons that people need to leave their homes in the first place. I trust you are doing likewise.
There are large numbers of highly qualified and experienced people with medical training, including doctors, midwives and psychiatrists stuck in limbo, unable to work because of stupid rules while the NHS is struggling to fill the gaps left when EU citizens went home. I won't assume you can help out there, but there's plenty of opportunity for you to do your bit to help with the worker shortage in a local care home, or to help harvest food that's rotting in fields, or t
No-one is 'feeling the EU'. Pretending that's what's happening is dehumanising and the draconian attitude of this government contributes to their mental health and other physical problems, which will cost us more in the future.
But why would the government do the hard work of investing in communities and requiring developers to take a slight hit to their profit margins to build quality, energy efficient, affordable housing when it's so much easier and profitable to blame the foreigners?
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Post by londonpostie on Nov 1, 2022 12:59:57 GMT
No-one is 'feeling the EU'. It's encouraging that no one is fleeing the EU. How can we better describe what they are doing?
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Post by Latecomer on Nov 1, 2022 17:34:38 GMT
It’s very easy to talk in general terms but the best reports on migration that I have seen have been from Lewis Goodall….where he actually went to Calais and asked people why they wanted to come to the UK….often it was relatives that lived here, sometimes language as they spoke English, and sometimes the feeling that the UK was a fair decent country (our benefits are not better - don’t let people mislead you on that). Imagine you were thrown out of this country (or it became so bad to live here that you felt you had to leave)…where would you try and get to? Think about how you would make that decision.
Oh and yes, unless we get more workers we won’t have care workers, vegetable pickers, people to work for low wages and be flexible. The country always SEEMS full as there are rubbish traffic jams everywhere, nothing seems to work anymore and there are no houses for people to live in at reasonable rates. This is just because things are run so badly! After the war we managed council houses in nearly every village, the NHS and good schools with mobility increased for people to university….we just need politicians with vision and good plans!
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