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Post by Mark on Oct 17, 2022 15:45:45 GMT
6th December to 28th January!
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Post by Jan on Oct 18, 2022 6:33:31 GMT
Prices surprisingly high for this given it's a new venue and not an especially starry cast. £45-£85 except for the very back row of the second balcony £25. Can they sustain that ? I'd say they should be looking to start lower than Donmar pricing rather than aiming for standard West End.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Oct 18, 2022 11:20:06 GMT
Judging by the amount of discounts available for Marvellous I'll hold off on booking.
Pricing aside, this could be a grest pre Christmas treat.
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Post by Jon on Oct 18, 2022 12:50:25 GMT
Prices surprisingly high for this given it's a new venue and not an especially starry cast. £45-£85 except for the very back row of the second balcony £25. Can they sustain that ? I'd say they should be looking to start lower than Donmar pricing rather than aiming for standard West End. It's a commercial venue in the West End, there's no chance they'll reduce the prices to lower than the subsidised theatres. |
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Post by Jan on Oct 18, 2022 16:06:45 GMT
Prices surprisingly high for this given it's a new venue and not an especially starry cast. £45-£85 except for the very back row of the second balcony £25. Can they sustain that ? I'd say they should be looking to start lower than Donmar pricing rather than aiming for standard West End. It's a commercial venue in the West End, there's no chance they'll reduce the prices to lower than the subsidised theatres. Its a new venue, they need to build an audience. Come the middle of January I guess they’ll have to discount via TKTS and TodayTix so why not start lower ? The Donmar itself doesn’t sell out these days and this show looks to be the type of thing they’d put on. Just BTW Jermyn Street is an unsubsidised commercial theatre in the West End and their prices are way lower than this for Shakespeare. |
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Post by TallPaul on Oct 18, 2022 16:31:37 GMT
It may not be subsidised, but Nica Burns did promise that @sohoplace would be run on a not-for-profit basis. With a capacity of upto 602, compared to the Donmar's 251, it could be argued that, if its costs are broadly the same, its tickets should be cheaper.
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Post by Jan on Oct 18, 2022 17:39:01 GMT
It may not be subsidised, but Nica Burns did promise that @sohoplace would be run on a not-for-profit basis. With a capacity of upto 602, compared to the Donmar's 251, it could be argued that, if its costs are broadly the same, its tickets should be cheaper. It is the Laffer curve in action, there is some pricing strategy that will maximise their total income, they think it is the strategy comparable established West End theatres follow. It might be, I’m not sure. I’m not aware that AYLI is a school set book this year (Macbeth is). January is normally a slow month. I will wait for discounts. Their pricing for the current production Marvellous is quite a lot lower than for AYLI, it is in-line with Donmar pricing. |
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Post by Steve on Oct 18, 2022 18:33:53 GMT
The pricing does seem high.
If Donmar prices were applied, the Stalls should be £45 - £60, which is £20 cheaper than they actually are.
I imagine they're aiming for Rose Ayling-Ellis, who plays Celia in this, and who was a massively popular winner of Strictly, to do one or more appearances on Strictly, talking about this show, as the final approaches and the audiences get massive.
Also, appearances on Loose Women, Graham Norton, etc.
Still, I suspect there will be discounts in January, as Jan suggests.
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Post by Dave B on Oct 18, 2022 20:55:06 GMT
This was seatfilling on the first night it opened it's doors. I am not sure interest levels in a new West End venue are high....
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Post by cavocado on Oct 19, 2022 8:46:14 GMT
The pricing does seem high. If Donmar prices were applied, the Stalls should be £45 - £60, which is £20 cheaper than they actually are. I imagine they're aiming for Rose Ayling-Ellis, who plays Celia in this, and who was a massively popular winner of Strictly, to do one or more appearances on Strictly, talking about this show, as the final approaches and the audiences get massive. Also, appearances on Loose Women, Graham Norton, etc. Still, I suspect there will be discounts in January, as Jan suggests. Is there much crossover between audiences for those shows and Shakespeare? An appearance on Strictly might help for a show like Jack Absolute, but I think a lot of people regard Shakespeare as hardcore theatre, not a fun evening out. Given the discounts around for Marvellous, I think the seat pricing is wrong. I know regular theatregoers who will happily pay £80 or more and others who will rarely go over £20. It makes sense to aim for both ends of that spectrum (as the Bridge seems to do), so maybe they need a higher top price for the premium seats, but at least a few £15 to £20 tickets. The lesson learned from Soho Place so far is to wait for late discounts and don't book early - which can't be ideal for them as a commercial theatre. |
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Post by profquatermass on Oct 19, 2022 9:45:14 GMT
There are loads of newish venues that tickets haven't exactly been flying out the door for - the newly renamed Marylebone Theatre was half-empty when I went a couple of weeks ago for example. Has the Turbine at Battersea ever sold out? (though it might do better now the power station is open but it's still pricey for a venue that's pretty much the same size as the Union but twice as expensive). I can see people possibly paying these prices for the Soho Place once but not again...
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Oct 19, 2022 18:08:52 GMT
There are loads of newish venues that tickets haven't exactly been flying out the door for - the newly renamed Marylebone Theatre was half-empty when I went a couple of weeks ago for example. Has the Turbine at Battersea ever sold out? (though it might do better now the power station is open but it's still pricey for a venue that's pretty much the same size as the Union but twice as expensive). I can see people possibly paying these prices for the Soho Place once but not again... Turbine had a big sell-out run for My Son's A Queer and some other shows (But I'm A Cheerleader) sounds as though they fared okay. Buildig an audience post-Covid is proving very difficult of course! |
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Post by Jon on Oct 19, 2022 18:35:30 GMT
Nica is producing the current slate of shows for @sohoplace but I think it'll become an option for commercial producers to put their work in as well as transfers from the subsided theatre.
I'm not too worried about @sohoplace, they're not exactly going to demolish it or close it down.
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Post by Jan on Oct 20, 2022 12:17:09 GMT
Nica is producing the current slate of shows for @sohoplace but I think it'll become an option for commercial producers to put their work in as well as transfers from the subsided theatre. I'm not too worried about @sohoplace, they're not exactly going to demolish it or close it down. The fact it is in the round reduces possibilities for transfers or touring productions to go in there, or for co-productions like the current New Vic one. |
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Post by cavocado on Oct 20, 2022 12:46:42 GMT
Nica is producing the current slate of shows for @sohoplace but I think it'll become an option for commercial producers to put their work in as well as transfers from the subsided theatre. I'm not too worried about @sohoplace, they're not exactly going to demolish it or close it down. The fact it is in the round reduces possibilities for transfers or touring productions to go in there, or for co-productions like the current New Vic one. I think it's a flexible space, not just in the round. It would be good to see some transfers from the Royal Exchange, Crucible, etc |
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Post by Jan on Oct 20, 2022 16:11:21 GMT
The fact it is in the round reduces possibilities for transfers or touring productions to go in there, or for co-productions like the current New Vic one. I think it's a flexible space, not just in the round. It would be good to see some transfers from the Royal Exchange, Crucible, etc I agree but we get very few transfers from big regional theatres at all and that’s not for lack of possible venues. If it’s flexible the RSC should put Swan transfers in there, just as they should put RST transfers in The Bridge. |
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Post by cavocado on Oct 20, 2022 20:49:12 GMT
I think it's a flexible space, not just in the round. It would be good to see some transfers from the Royal Exchange, Crucible, etc I agree but we get very few transfers from big regional theatres at all and that’s not for lack of possible venues. If it’s flexible the RSC should put Swan transfers in there, just as they should put RST transfers in The Bridge. I wish the RSC did transfer to the Bridge - a much better fit than the Barbican and a more realistic number of seats to sell. But I doubt Hytner would want his theatre to be seen as the RSC's London home, and presumably the same for Soho Place. But occasional transfers would be nice, and I think Bridge audiences might have enjoyed the Arthur Hughes RIII more than John Gabriel Borkman. |
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Post by Jon on Oct 21, 2022 0:12:42 GMT
I'm not sure why it's being suggested that the RSC should go to the Bridge for London transfers when the Bridge self produce their own shows. The only exception is The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe which came from Leeds.
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Post by Jan on Oct 21, 2022 6:06:48 GMT
I'm not sure why it's being suggested that the RSC should go to the Bridge for London transfers Because it's the only suitable venue for RST transfers in London. |
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Post by profquatermass on Oct 21, 2022 11:26:50 GMT
When the St James first opened it was announced as being a home for regional productions which seems to have been forgotten very quickly
Re the RSC, what they really need is a permanent London home. Oh wait, they had one and gave it away #nopity
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Post by Jan on Oct 21, 2022 16:56:41 GMT
Re the RSC, what they really need is a permanent London home. Oh wait, they had one and gave it away #nopity They gave one away and gave up the £1m a year subsidy the City of London were paying them to stay there. Then after a few years they went back to exactly the same place but without the subsidy. |
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Post by Jan on Dec 1, 2022 15:29:17 GMT
Lots of big discounts (more than 50% off full price) for this via TodayTix throughout December. Shows their original pricing was wrong.
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Post by mabey19 on Dec 7, 2022 7:31:19 GMT
Does anyone know if this is set in modern times? I want to take my son but he doesn't want to watch a play in Shakespearean English!
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Post by couldileaveyou on Dec 7, 2022 8:43:47 GMT
Does anyone know if this is set in modern times? I want to take my son but he doesn't want to watch a play in Shakespearean English! The two things are not mutually exclusive. Judging from the costumes it is set in modern times, but the text is Shakespeare's not an adaptation (apart from eventual cuts) |
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Post by mabey19 on Dec 7, 2022 11:39:03 GMT
Does anyone know if this is set in modern times? I want to take my son but he doesn't want to watch a play in Shakespearean English! The two things are not mutually exclusive. Judging from the costumes it is set in modern times, but the text is Shakespeare's not an adaptation (apart from eventual cuts) Thanks, I didn't think of that! I really want to watch it but guess I will have to pass or find someone else who's interested! |
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