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Post by fiyero on Dec 2, 2024 11:38:51 GMT
Cinemas don’t put out their full schedules for the Friday onwards until some point on Monday. So keep checking later today or tomorrow and there should be screenings for Wicked. It says on vues website the last screening is Thursday 5th. I live in Acton, zone 2 London, it’s not like I’m out of the city! It won't stop on Thursday, just the cinemas are deciding whether to show it a couple of times each day or loads! Depends how many times they want to show Moana 2 etc... Some things are scheduled far ahead but most aren't. |
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Post by Jon on Dec 2, 2024 12:25:46 GMT
Cinemas don’t put out their full schedules for the Friday onwards until some point on Monday. So keep checking later today or tomorrow and there should be screenings for Wicked. It says on vues website the last screening is Thursday 5th. I live in Acton, zone 2 London, it’s not like I’m out of the city! It'd be the same for other films as well. |
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Post by mkb on Dec 2, 2024 15:52:44 GMT
I am surprised that Wicked Part 1 has been demoted to minor screens at some multiplexes this week. I know the distribution deal for Moana 2 -- which is utter rubbish btw -- probably mandates that that has to go into the biggest screen on its opening week, but that appears to exclude the last show of the day. My local Odeon has decided to fill the second evening slot in its iSense screen with Gladiator 2 and a Telegu-language film this week. I can't imagine that either of those is doing as good business here as Wicked. Very strange.
I went over to Birmingham to see it instead, and pretty much every screening on Saturday was showing as sold out or limited.
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Post by christya on Dec 2, 2024 15:54:15 GMT
Saw this last night, and I'm honestly not sure about it. Some of it was fantastic - Ariana was wonderful, the costumes deserve an award, and I loved the choreography. But I loved 'No One Mourns the Wicked' and after that nothing else quite hit that level for me. The complaints about it looking washed out were absolutely justified, too, it ruined the colours (though I did smile at the beginning when it all looked every bit as much like a movie set as the original Wizard of Oz). Definitely not keen on Cynthia's 'I'm Not That Girl' - too much messing with it, I actually winced a couple of times. And 'Defying Gravity' - what a disappointment. No momentum whatsoever, every time they built anything up they stopped and did something else. I thought it was going to add to the anticipation for the end part - and then {possible spoiler}that overblown, indulgent fall with the child-Elphaba hallucination or whatever ruined it again. It felt as frustrating as an ad break inserted during the climax of a film. Michelle Yeoh's singing...they should have dubbed her or had her just speak over the music. Cynthia - was okay. I didn't feel as though she was doing anything that someone else couldn't have done, and I found her obvious age a bit offputting (see also: Jonathan Bailey) but she had some lovely moments and I think I might prefer her in part two. The sets were gorgeous, and musically it was mostly beautiful, which I think just made me more frustrated when something wasn't! |
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Post by mkb on Dec 2, 2024 20:27:10 GMT
I am surprised that Wicked Part 1 has been demoted to minor screens at some multiplexes this week. I know the distribution deal for Moana 2 -- which is utter rubbish btw -- probably mandates that that has to go into the biggest screen on its opening week, but that appears to exclude the last show of the day. My local Odeon has decided to fill the second evening slot in its iSense screen with Gladiator 2 and a Telegu-language film this week. I can't imagine that either of those is doing as good business here as Wicked. Very strange They seem to have recognised this was a mistake because the newly released schedule has Wicked back in the main screen from Friday. Clearly doing great business. |
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Post by Jon on Dec 3, 2024 0:19:44 GMT
I am surprised that Wicked Part 1 has been demoted to minor screens at some multiplexes this week. I know the distribution deal for Moana 2 -- which is utter rubbish btw -- probably mandates that that has to go into the biggest screen on its opening week, but that appears to exclude the last show of the day. My local Odeon has decided to fill the second evening slot in its iSense screen with Gladiator 2 and a Telegu-language film this week. I can't imagine that either of those is doing as good business here as Wicked. Very strange. I went over to Birmingham to see it instead, and pretty much every screening on Saturday was showing as sold out or limited. Disney has a lot of muscle for screens, Moana 2 being shorter means it'll get more showtimes. |
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Post by mkb on Dec 3, 2024 1:55:27 GMT
I am surprised that Wicked Part 1 has been demoted to minor screens at some multiplexes this week. I know the distribution deal for Moana 2 -- which is utter rubbish btw -- probably mandates that that has to go into the biggest screen on its opening week, but that appears to exclude the last show of the day. My local Odeon has decided to fill the second evening slot in its iSense screen with Gladiator 2 and a Telegu-language film this week. I can't imagine that either of those is doing as good business here as Wicked. Very strange. I went over to Birmingham to see it instead, and pretty much every screening on Saturday was showing as sold out or limited. Disney has a lot of muscle for screens, Moana 2 being shorter means it'll get more showtimes. I was questioning why the late evening slot across this week, unclaimed by Disney, was given to Gladiator 2 and Pushpa 2 - The Rule. |
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Post by unseaworthy on Dec 3, 2024 8:31:36 GMT
Does it justify the incredibly long running time?
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Post by khiar on Dec 3, 2024 9:38:35 GMT
It doesn't feel padded at all. I was worried about the run time and incredibly cynical about the decision to break it into two films - I still think it will be an uphill struggle to make Act 2 anywhere near as engaging as Act 1. But they were right to give this film the breathing room it needed. Even if that means Part 1 is an excellent film and Part 2 is only so-so, I'm still glad they chose this rather than having to trim things away from Part 1.
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Post by SilverFox on Dec 3, 2024 12:07:33 GMT
I am surprised that Wicked Part 1 has been demoted to minor screens at some multiplexes this week. I know the distribution deal for Moana 2 -- which is utter rubbish btw -- probably mandates that that has to go into the biggest screen on its opening week, but that appears to exclude the last show of the day. My local Odeon has decided to fill the second evening slot in its iSense screen with Gladiator 2 and a Telegu-language film this week. I can't imagine that either of those is doing as good business here as Wicked. Very strange. Checking on the advance booking at our local 'plex, Moana tends to have more seats booked than Wicked during the daytime - though of course this takes no account of on-the-door sales which do tend to predominate here. The evening showing - no great surprise - is reversed with Moana have very little in advance sales, whilst Wicked has around a third of capacity pre-booked.
Next weekend (3rd for Wicked, 2nd for Moana) the films get shown seemingly in any available screen with Moana getting 6 showings per day against Wickeds 4. In total between today and Thursday 12th the total screenings are 32 for Wicked and 53 for Moana. We also get 4 showings of Pushpa 2 (telegu language) in the evenings, 2 of which are in the largest screen. Go figure.
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Post by David J on Dec 3, 2024 16:57:18 GMT
I've been looking at box office analysis videos and one has brought up a glaring problem for Wicked which is the subject of this Deadline article deadline.com/2024/11/wicked-marketing-record-advertiser-list-1236187221/The movie's marketing team has spent $350 million in cross promotion with companies like lego, target e.g. All those wicked dolls, lego sets that Christmas tree in St Pancreas and so on you see everywhere cost them that much, more than "2021’s Spider-Man: No Way Home ($220M), 2019’s Avengers: Endgame ($200M) and 2022’s Avatar: The Way of Water ($170M)." Then add on the cost of prints and ads (i.e. posters) which the deadline article says was $150 million, you're looking at $500 million on marketing. The movie's production budget was only $150 million and typically you add on 75% of that in marketing but they've ballooned the total budget to upwards of $650 million And despite the media saying how Wicked is breaking records and so on, it's not doing as impressive as they say it is. And Moana 2 will now be eating into Wicked's box office as they both share the same audience. It's already making more international box office than Wicked. I also think Erivo's comments on the fan poster, Grande's relationship with Ethan Slater and the incessant crying these two are doing on the press tours are putting some people off seeing this. We've had years of movie stars causing drama surrounding their movies on social media and so on that general audiences are taking note of these things. Now commentators are saying that this movie should break even or make a little bit of money - but it could have made more. |
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Post by normasturban on Dec 3, 2024 18:06:10 GMT
You’ve misunderstood that article and those (embarrassing) videos are purposefully misrepresenting it for rage bait clicks.
The brand partnerships are worth $350 million, they didn’t spend $350 million. Partnerships are mutually beneficial. Gratis media value.
The movies total cost $320 million, with $160 million advertising for this first part alone. They’ll like spend the same again for advertising for Part Two. The cost of the entire production will be recouped by the end of Part One’s release.
A good rule of thumb for breakeven points is a 2.5 multiplier of the production budget, not production and marketing. Wicked Part One needs to gross in the region of $400 million to be in the black which it will do comfortably and that’s not counting the fortune they’ll have made from merch and partnership deals.
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Post by tr252 on Dec 3, 2024 18:14:38 GMT
Yes, the vast majority of the brand collaborations you’re seeing are not part of Wicked’s budget.
I work in brand marketing and collaborated with Warner Bros this time last year. We paid to work with them, they didn’t pay us but they did get a lot of exposure from the campaign we went live with (on our packages, social media, influencers etc.).
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Post by normasturban on Dec 3, 2024 18:19:58 GMT
Yes, the vast majority of the brand collaborations you’re seeing are not part of Wicked’s budget. I work in brand marketing and collaborated with Warner Bros this time last year. We paid to work with them, they didn’t pay us but they did get a lot of exposure from the campaign we went live with (on our packages, social media, influencers etc.). Absolutely. LEGO or Starbucks, for example, will have paid to collaborate with Wicked. Wicked, in turn, will get a royalty cut of their sales. Wicked’s actual advertising budget is less than Barbie’s $175 million, for example. They just chose to pursue and won a lot of brand partnerships. All of which is additional exposure and profit, not loss. |
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Post by Jon on Dec 3, 2024 19:13:59 GMT
Yes, the vast majority of the brand collaborations you’re seeing are not part of Wicked’s budget. I work in brand marketing and collaborated with Warner Bros this time last year. We paid to work with them, they didn’t pay us but they did get a lot of exposure from the campaign we went live with (on our packages, social media, influencers etc.). In the case of Barbie, I assume Mattel did a lot of the licensing to brands rather than WB. I find it interesting how Universal had both Marks and Spencer and Primark as the Wicked clothing and beauty tie in in the UK, I'm guessing they know that they can appeal to customers with different spending levels. |
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Post by stuartmcd on Dec 3, 2024 19:41:38 GMT
I've been looking at box office analysis videos and one has brought up a glaring problem for Wicked which is the subject of this Deadline article deadline.com/2024/11/wicked-marketing-record-advertiser-list-1236187221/The movie's marketing team has spent $350 million in cross promotion with companies like lego, target e.g. All those wicked dolls, lego sets that Christmas tree in St Pancreas and so on you see everywhere cost them that much, more than "2021’s Spider-Man: No Way Home ($220M), 2019’s Avengers: Endgame ($200M) and 2022’s Avatar: The Way of Water ($170M)." Then add on the cost of prints and ads (i.e. posters) which the deadline article says was $150 million, you're looking at $500 million on marketing. The movie's production budget was only $150 million and typically you add on 75% of that in marketing but they've ballooned the total budget to upwards of $650 million And despite the media saying how Wicked is breaking records and so on, it's not doing as impressive as they say it is. And Moana 2 will now be eating into Wicked's box office as they both share the same audience. It's already making more international box office than Wicked. I also think Erivo's comments on the fan poster, Grande's relationship with Ethan Slater and the incessant crying these two are doing on the press tours are putting some people off seeing this. We've had years of movie stars causing drama surrounding their movies on social media and so on that general audiences are taking note of these things. Now commentators are saying that this movie should break even or make a little bit of money - but it could have made more. Yeah this is a load of rubbish. Wicked only dropped 29% in its second weekend and that was it going up against Moana 2. Usually most big blockbusters drop 50% + in their second weekend when going up against strong competition. This shows that not only are people interested but the word of mouth is strong and it’s probably also getting a lot of repeat viewings. It’s international numbers currently are a bit soft but that’s because it hasn’t opened in a number of major markets yet. If you want a decent well informed Box Office analysis video then I recommend someone like Dan Murrell rather than the rage bait type of videos you have posted. |
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Post by Jon on Dec 3, 2024 19:55:23 GMT
Wicked's US total will more than make up for what is does overseas and that's not factoring in that it's doing gangbusters in many places.
Universal is likely thrilled with how Wicked is doing and it's likely Part 2 will make even more money.
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Post by tr252 on Dec 3, 2024 21:34:07 GMT
Yes, the vast majority of the brand collaborations you’re seeing are not part of Wicked’s budget. I work in brand marketing and collaborated with Warner Bros this time last year. We paid to work with them, they didn’t pay us but they did get a lot of exposure from the campaign we went live with (on our packages, social media, influencers etc.). In the case of Barbie, I assume Mattel did a lot of the licensing to brands rather than WB. I find it interesting how Universal had both Marks and Spencer and Primark as the Wicked clothing and beauty tie in in the UK, I'm guessing they know that they can appeal to customers with different spending levels. Correct and I also believe Mattel actually pumped a lot of money into the promotion of Barbie because it was also in their best interest to have a hit as well as Warner Bros. |
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Dec 4, 2024 3:10:26 GMT
The film has exceeded many people box office expectations, and it is still yet to open in big film markets like China, Japan and quite a few European countries.
With the first film being such a success, it bodes very well for the potential box office for part 2, which could be massive.
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