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Post by westendwendy on Sept 4, 2016 9:37:25 GMT
I mean the fake auditorium ceiling (aka Apollo) - did the Palace Theatre always have it? Or was it put in for Potter?
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Post by dippy on Sept 4, 2016 10:09:20 GMT
Oops, I definitely didn't get that that's what you meant, as you can tell. If as you say the UV writing was on it then I'd imagine it was put in for Potter. It would have been far easier than wallpapering the whole ceiling. Of course I have no idea though.
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Post by zak97 on Sept 5, 2016 12:43:57 GMT
Having seen it the second time yesterday, first time in the Balcony and this time row F stalls central aisle seat, the play seems equally incredible. As my first viewing I loved the physical movement of the train scenes in clearer detail, and this alike the dementor scenes seem more impressive I imagine for first time viewers as you can't see the cables from row F, from the balcony I always suspected something was going to happen. I suppose the magical effects are a bit diluted the second time, as although it was worth going to see the effect from a better vantage point as well as see the writing all over the Palace walls which I missed from the balcony, the fact that I knew what the effects were removed some of the wow! I imagine some people who go will want to return for the effects, rather than the acting. However, it was the dramatic content of the play that really engaged me the first time, and having felt a bit disconnected from the balcony I was just waiting to get the opportunity to feel immersed in the emotion by being front stalls. Jamie Parker was impressive in June, and more so now. He seems to have the torment nailed, and his pairing with Poppy Miller is fantastic. Alex Price wasn't on as Draco, it was James Howard, I think. Aside from appearance, the understudy looks a bit more like Lucius Malfoy actually, both actors play the role very similarly - although that's not a bad thing. For me, the slight menace that Draco evokes was contrasting to Scorpius' quirkiness much more prom unitedly. Anthony Boyle seems to have grown in to the humour a lot more, and had many more laughs this time, and brings out the wired dimensions more prominently. However, and like my first viewing, my favourite character of all was Albus. I find Scorpius interesting, but I generally find Albus to be the much more real character. I suppose this could be because I identified with the characterisation and dramatic arc, but I liked that Rowling didn't provide a front or facade, and that, for me, helps bring out the fragility of the character. Sam Clemmett made the performance believable, more so than last time which I didn't think would be possible. Sam seems to have the perfect chemistry will all the actors he interacts with, which never renders Albus a character that had dimensions because of the magic and special effects to draw interest. But rather conveying the simple honest emotion. The connection between Sam's Albus and Jamie's Harry at the killing of James and Lily and the final scene didn't make me cry the first time, but the little extra spark from growing into the parts this time did, although this could equally have been helped by sitting close to the stage. Having seen the play twice, part 1 was still interesting, but it was part 2 that still shocked and impressed me more. I feel part 1 is a great introduction to the characters, to identities, the magic, and the concept of the play. But once you know that, you know it and it limited, for me, the amount I could get out the play. The reason why part 2 shocked me so much more the second time, I think, was because the story progresses at a slower rate, rather than covering many years of school. Equally I felt much more intimidated the second time at the part 2 opening with the Slytherin takeover. Being able to see facial expressions and appreciate the physical movement at eye level created a much greater sense of domineering menace that I missed in June. But it was when Voldermort walked directly through the aisle by me that I was most intimidated. Even though I always knew this would happen, you never get a realisation of Voldermort's appearance from the balcony or appreciate the presence evoked when the character actually walks past you. Would I see the play again? Well yes for the Harry/Albus relationship, and as I have a ticket for the balcony late next year, which, having seen the beauty of the play up close, does not bother me. With 10 or so months to go, I imagine the play will be as impressive as the content less fresh; I read the play three times in the two months between my two visits so I'll stay away from that. Who knows what'll happen casting wise, and I adore the current cast, but the prospect of new interpretations intrigues me and makes me want to return. I'd be fascinated to see if another actor takes over from Sam Clemmett, and it so, if I still identify so much with Albus.
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Post by zak97 on Sept 5, 2016 12:45:29 GMT
Oh, and on another note it was a pleasant surprise to have Lin Manuel Miranda sat in the seat directly behind me for part 1.
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Post by rumbledoll on Sept 5, 2016 14:07:50 GMT
Anybody knows for how long the current cast is staying? (I'm mostly interested in Jamie Parker. Well, okay. He's actually the only one I'm interested in here..)
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Post by danielwhit on Sept 5, 2016 14:37:39 GMT
Anybody knows for how long the current cast is staying? (I'm mostly interested in Jamie Parker. Well, okay. He's actually the only one I'm interested in here..) Guessing they are on a 12 month contract as a minimum, so February/March next year. Plausibly longer.
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Post by rumbledoll on Sept 5, 2016 14:40:51 GMT
Actually I can't wait for Jamie to get the hell out of there and doing something else but I guess I'll try the lottery in November then. Thanks!
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Post by zak97 on Sept 5, 2016 15:16:46 GMT
Looking at the booking calendar, I think it's the first (but possibly second so don't quote me on that) week of June that has a performance schedule that looks a bit different to the normal one. So that could be cast change.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2016 22:42:57 GMT
Actually I can't wait for Jamie to get the hell out of there and doing something else but I guess I'll try the lottery in November then. Thanks! Heck, rumbledoll, pay premium price if you have to. He's totally. Worth. It. ;-)
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Post by rumbledoll on Sept 6, 2016 8:00:25 GMT
Actually I can't wait for Jamie to get the hell out of there and doing something else but I guess I'll try the lottery in November then. Thanks! Heck, rumbledoll, pay premium price if you have to. He's totally. Worth. It. ;-) Haha, it's 1/3 of what I earn a month But I'm sure he's wonderful in it. He always is!
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Post by avenueqresident on Sept 27, 2016 12:17:20 GMT
So I'm wondering how popular Cursed Child will be for Halloween costumes this year! Would possibly be giving away spoilers though I reckon if you went as Delphi in her full guise
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Post by charliec on Oct 9, 2016 11:57:17 GMT
Revisited this last night, having seen it from the very top/ back of the theatre right at the beginning of previews it was a real treat to see it from row c of the stalls.
Everyone has grown into the roles wonderfully, Anthony Boyle was out ( holiday week I think) so James Le Lacheur was on, a brilliant Scorpius, it's probably the best role in the play and it's so well written.
Everything feels smoother than the last time I saw it. The atmosphere is different from last time, I guess it's safe to assume a large chunk of the audience have read the published script now so there isn't the gasping and ripples of excitement throughout the audience that there was before. Still a few gasps in the Umbridge reality part though!
Really thought I'd escape emotionally intact this time, but no... that one moment when the leads are all at the front of the stage watching the murders happen is such a huge moment in the potter universe, I defy anyone to not be moved by it. It's such a perfect moment.
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Post by zak97 on Oct 9, 2016 12:53:49 GMT
The audience reactions during previews will be forever one of my favourite theatrical moments. Very special discovering the story for the first time along with everyone else. Btw, are they still doing the badges? When I went last month they had a guy with a box at the doors, but weren't giving them out to everybody when leaving the auditorium. I think it was more of 'if you want one'.
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Post by mjh on Oct 9, 2016 13:21:38 GMT
Based on James La Lacheur's Casting Call Pro, the end of the current contracts is 21st May 2017.
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Post by moony93 on Oct 9, 2016 13:48:10 GMT
The audience reactions during previews will be forever one of my favourite theatrical moments. Very special discovering the story for the first time along with everyone else. Btw, are they still doing the badges? When I went last month they had a guy with a box at the doors, but weren't giving them out to everybody when leaving the auditorium. I think it was more of 'if you want one'. When I went the other week there was just one person giving them out at the end of part one at the main doors, and then nothing at the end of part two, so I'm guessing they're just giving out what's left. I do like the badges though, before the script came out it was like being a part of a secret club.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2016 16:23:32 GMT
The audience reactions during previews will be forever one of my favourite theatrical moments. Very special discovering the story for the first time along with everyone else. Btw, are they still doing the badges? So true. The audible gasps, screams and reactions at the first preview are something I will never forget.
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Post by Jon on Oct 9, 2016 20:10:28 GMT
That's why I think the script was published far too early. If there are plans to mount many international productions (and I believe JKR said this would go everywhere eventually), then its slightly bittersweet because an element of excitement from any new production has been removed. It's a lose lose situation, fans who couldn't get tickets would feel excluded from those who could get tickets but at the same time, knowing what happens does slightly ruin the surprises. In a more cynical way, publishing the script means it's another revenue generator for JKR and her publishers, I'm not sure if the Fantastic Beasts script will sell as well since the film will be much more widely available but clearly she, her publishers and Warner Bros must think it'll sell well enough to justify making it available
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Post by oxfordsimon on Oct 31, 2016 0:21:46 GMT
Just home from my first (and probably only visit) to the show. Could only afford balcony seats - but didn't feel too badly cheated.
Part 1 is dramatically and theatrically more successful for me - as I was never quite certain what was going to happen next whereas Part 2 saw a repetition of a lot of the stagecraft which was thrilling in Part 1 - but necessarily less fresh when repeated. The plotting has a more predictable shape as it was clear we were heading towards one resolution, new drama and final showdown. Still enjoyable but less satisfying.
It is a classy piece of work - with some very impressive theatricality. The lighting is particularly strong - particularly in the use of darkness.
Very glad to have finally seen it (a year after spending 8 hours chasing 3 seats together for a double day!)
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Post by viserys on Oct 31, 2016 9:14:34 GMT
Just back from my 1st one day show and my 3rd overall visit (and my first outside of previews). It is still an incredibly strong play, made stronger perhaps by seeing it all in one go. I've seen it twice where I've had to wait 48 hours between parts and 24 hours between parts, and I'm now wondering if the delay somehow enhances the experience of part one - giving part two a much harder task overall. Seeing it all in one day doesn't make me want to split the play into halfs or judge the afternoon against the evening - it is one full play and I feel slightly bad for previously judging each play against each other. The production is tighter and actors are evidently having fun with the roles a lot more - which brings out the humour in the script even more. However it did feel at times like it was being played for laughs in places, but perhaps rightly so as when it was the entire theatre laughed - including me who has seen and read it a number of times now. Would you say that the part of Delphi has improved (either the character or the actress or both)? I found her to be a bit of a weak link in the second part. I won't be seeing the show again until October next year when there's likely been a full cast change, but I'm curious if they worked out the kinks here.
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Post by danielwhit on Nov 2, 2016 0:40:42 GMT
Would you say that the part of Delphi has improved (either the character or the actress or both)? I found her to be a bit of a weak link in the second part. I won't be seeing the show again until October next year when there's likely been a full cast change, but I'm curious if they worked out the kinks here. She is better, not perfect. Much less panto so much improvement in that respect. She still needs to be Bellatrix crazy imo after the reveal. I see no reason why she couldn't undergo some sort of transformation and visually appear to be a mini Bellatrix once it's out in the open too - as it stands she looks nothing like Tom Riddle or Bellatrix. The murder of Craig falls flat still too. He is literally introduced 4 hours into the thing and murdered 10 minutes later. As an audience we're just not invested. I also think the last scene at Cedric's grave has been re-written - or at least more added to it. I could be wrong, but it felt longer and there were bits I didn't recognise but it feels much more like an ending than it did before. One thing I did wonder, is how on earth Scorpius and Albus managed to get from Scotland to Godric's Hollow without magic or money? (You can't appetite without a wand). As I understand it, Godric's Hollow is towards Cornwall? How lovely it would have been for Scorpius to summon Dobby (who was alive back in the 1980s and a Malfoy house elf) and have him apperate them there... The house elf would know from his own magic that Scorpius was a Malfoy and therefore bound to serve, but I suppose that's something else that messes with time! Yes - Craig was rather like that. I suspect he was installed to be pretty much "Cedric, the second" - but due to the structure we didn't meet him long before. He really was "the spare", I guess. Godric's Hollow is, I believe, in the West Country (but never specified further). Point valid though. Can't recall the details in the script to remember if anything was hinted at regarding this. Get the point about Dobby - but how would Scorpius be able to summon a house-elf he never met? Dobby leaves the Malfoy's service long before Scorpius is born. Would Lucius/Draco have even mentioned their old house-elf to Scorpius?
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Post by swjw on Nov 9, 2016 20:49:01 GMT
For people who have seen the play can you explain how the scene changes work? Does it fade to black for a while then the lights come back on to a new setting? How long does that usually take?
Also how did they do the lake sequence? Underwater and swimming on the surface, what did that look like on stage?
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Post by westendwendy on Nov 10, 2016 8:00:50 GMT
The staging of the show is flawless. No the lights don't fade. It's more a case of different set pieces slide on and off (quite often the two main staircases) and they are used for different scenes. Part 1 I thought was creatively amazing, part 2 a tad repetitive.
The water and tiny swimming pool is at the very front of the stage. (Think of where the conductor would be). The whole front of the stage is covered over so it extends right to where the audience sit. At the end of act one a two meter section of the very front centre of the stage opens up and reveals what is obviously a large (hopefully slightly heated water tank - the boys come out from that. They obviously need water proof microphones and there must be a u shapes design that means they can come from underneath the stage. (Think of the show O if any of you have seen that in Vegas).
The main thing I thought of - do the people on the front row get wet? Surely they must do?
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Post by theatrefan77 on Nov 10, 2016 8:48:39 GMT
On my first visit I sat on row BB, second row centre aisle, and nobody got wet. They splash very little, just for a moment. On my second visit I was a bit further back, row G, but again pretty sure nobody got wet.
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Post by cmcphail on Nov 10, 2016 10:48:27 GMT
I think it depends on the night, I was in the front row one night and Albus managed to spit a big mouthful of water all over me. It was certainly an immersive experience.
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Post by swjw on Nov 10, 2016 20:52:08 GMT
The staging of the show is flawless. No the lights don't fade. It's more a case of different set pieces slide on and off (quite often the two main staircases) and they are used for different scenes. Part 1 I thought was creatively amazing, part 2 a tad repetitive. The water and tiny swimming pool is at the very front of the stage. (Think of where the conductor would be). The whole front of the stage is covered over so it extends right to where the audience sit. At the end of act one a two meter section of the very front centre of the stage opens up and reveals what is obviously a large (hopefully slightly heated water tank - the boys come out from that. They obviously need water proof microphones and there must be a u shapes design that means they can come from underneath the stage. (Think of the show O if any of you have seen that in Vegas). The main thing I thought of - do the people on the front row get wet? Surely they must do? oh ok so do you see actors having to break character and get into position on the next set for the new scene? Sorry if this sounds naive but I haven't experienced play like this before. Another sequence I wonder about is the train roof scene, how was that done? Was there a screen showing moving images in the background to show the train was traveling through the countryside or something?
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