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Post by kathryn on Jun 26, 2022 18:17:58 GMT
I still enjoy some of Jackson’s music - and his best work owes an awful lot to the genius of Quincy Jones. It’s a hagiographic approach to him and his life (and trust me, there are absolutely still a contingent of Jackson fans who are convinced that he was a pure-hearted Angel and poor innocent victim) that is disturbing. We as a society have a real problem separating the art from the artists - people’s love of the art affects their ability to judge the artists objectively, and allows the artist licence in their personal life they would not be granted otherwise. And some of them use that licence - and the money that comes with it - to get away with abusing people in various ways. This is less of an issue once an artist is dead, obviously. So, are you saying that irrespective of time lines and being dead etc that people are morally wrong to enjoy Jacksons music? (And Quincy Jones had a hand in relatively little of MJ’s total output.). I can quite comfortably separate the man & the music and enjoy one but not the other. Yet apparently, thinking ‘Dirty Diana’ is a total banger makes me somehow responsible too does it? Am I so in awe that I don’t know the difference between right & wrong? Have a word with yourself. No, clearly not saying it’s ‘morally wrong’, since I say that I still enjoy some of his music. 🙄 And obviously you are not ‘responsible’ for anything that Jackson did - JACKSON is responsible for the things he did. My comment was simply about the ‘separating art from the artist’ argument, and how difficult that seems to be for people in reality. The effect that being rich, famous and widely beloved on people’s ability to get away with doing very bad stuff is well-documented. I don’t know what anyone can actually do about this quirk of human nature.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2022 20:37:07 GMT
. Sorry if I came across a bit antagonistic. Frankly, the news here in America this week has been horrifying and I think I was already a bit heated while on the boards. No worries, it’s been a distressing week even for those of us who are not American. There’s a real hell-in-handcart feeling at the moment. Thanks for understanding. Sigh. A really dystopian and bleak time, eh? Anyway, I do hope you all get Myles over, and that those who see it enjoy it. I was very reluctant to admit I enjoyed it while working it. A little note about Myles: this sweet, lovely performer always shouts out the house staff stuffing playbills after his mic check. "Have a good show, house crew" and we all yell something back. I've ushered a lot of different shows, and I've only encountered this from Myles and every single one of the Tinas in Tina.
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Post by thecursedexpress on Jul 12, 2022 14:24:22 GMT
I'm going to put my two cents into this.
I saw MJ on Broadway at the start of June. I was hesitant as I'm not particulary a fan of jukebox musicals as I only like one which is Bat out of Hell. Plus I never saw Thriller Live and was apprehensive that it might be like. (Every time I passed the theatre, it looked very cheap in terms of production)
MJ however, is not a Thriller Live and it blew me away after I saw it. As a fan of Michael Jackson's music, I was bobbing my head at every song and the sets and the way the story progresses from start to finish gels really well. I know there has always been controversy around Michael Jackson, however, i have always been able to detach the person and performer from him.
Also, Myles Frost, who plays MJ (who is only 22 yrs might I add) was such a convincing Michael and it felt like I was watching the real person. I know we live in a time where there are so many jukebox musicals right now filling up theatres, but this one is up there for me.
If it transfers to London, I would love to see Ivano Turco or Koffi Missah play MJ.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 12, 2022 23:31:39 GMT
I wonder if Cameron (or whoever) will get a lot of flak when it's announced he's hosting this He won’t give a hoot. Look at how terribly he’s behaved with things like Phantom and Les Mis. And not sure why everyone is debating venues. It’s going to the Prince Edward. Worst kept secret in London.
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Post by fiyero on Oct 17, 2022 7:10:40 GMT
Spring 2024, just had the pre pre sale email.
MJ OPENING MARCH 2024 AT THE PRINCE EDWARD THEATRE
STARTIN' SOMETHIN' IN LONDON
He is one of the greatest entertainers of all time.
Now, Michael Jackson’s unique and unparalleled artistry is heading to the West End in the multiple Tony Award® winning musical MJ.
Centred around the making of his 1992 Dangerous World Tour, MJ goes beyond the singular moves and signature sound of the star, offering a rare look at the creative mind and collaborative spirit that catapulted Jackson into legendary status.
Created by Tony Award® winning Director / Choreographer Christopher Wheeldon, and two-time Pulitzer Prize winner Lynn Nottage, MJ will open at the Prince Edward Theatre in March 2024 with booking from Spring 2023.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Oct 17, 2022 8:56:52 GMT
Ohh I didn't realise Wheeldon who i love was involved. Although I still detest MJ and his music.
Me thinks, I'll just stick to Wheeldon ballets
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Post by Mark on Oct 17, 2022 9:03:31 GMT
The Prince Edward is a great venue for MJ. This has gone from strength to strength in New York and is doing incredible business. I predict it will do the same here and become a very hot ticket and have a very respectable run.
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Post by lolalou on Oct 17, 2022 9:04:12 GMT
If it transfers to London, I would love to see Ivano Turco play MJ. Is there lots of acting involved? 🤔
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Post by viserys on Oct 17, 2022 9:07:10 GMT
If it transfers to London, I would love to see Ivano Turco play MJ. Is there lots of acting involved? 🤔 Surely you won't judge the poor lad on the awful drippy material he was given to work with in Cinderella? I think he would be a great choice and may actually make me book a ticket for this (heck, I was close to booking that Bob Marley thing to see him).
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Post by mrbarnaby on Oct 17, 2022 11:22:14 GMT
He cannot act, regardless of the material.
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Post by cezbear on Oct 17, 2022 11:37:23 GMT
He cannot act, regardless of the material. Here comes the authority again.
I think he'd be great personally, and an obvious choice, though perhaps as alternate (assuming we'll have one?). If he does well as Bob Marley and proves himself with that I can definitely see him in with a chance as MJ. I can't think of many other that immediately come to mind. I know Karl Queensborough was tweeting about wanting it but I really struggle to see that.
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Post by LaLuPone on Oct 17, 2022 11:49:34 GMT
For me the issue was not that he couldn’t act, just that he was wrong for the part. Bless his heart but he was camp as Christmas and I just could not believe him as being in love with Cinderella, also he looked about 12 and Carrie looks her age so he read more as her little brother than love interest! Michael Hamway was much better as the Prince for me, him and Carrie had brilliant chemistry as well. Having said all that, Ivano’s voice was fantastic and his dancing was second to none so I think he could be really good in MJ, especially as Michael Jackson was quite a flamboyant character.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Oct 17, 2022 11:49:43 GMT
He cannot act, regardless of the material. Here comes the authority again.
I think he'd be great personally, and an obvious choice, though perhaps as alternate (assuming we'll have one?). If he does well as Bob Marley and proves himself with that I can definitely see him in with a chance as MJ. I can't think of many other that immediately come to mind. I know Karl Queensborough was tweeting about wanting it but I really struggle to see that.
Please. Anyone who thinks he can act needs to raise their standards
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Post by Jon on Oct 17, 2022 11:59:01 GMT
It seems awfully early to announce the show is coming in 2024.
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Post by cezbear on Oct 17, 2022 12:04:03 GMT
Here comes the authority again.
I think he'd be great personally, and an obvious choice, though perhaps as alternate (assuming we'll have one?). If he does well as Bob Marley and proves himself with that I can definitely see him in with a chance as MJ. I can't think of many other that immediately come to mind. I know Karl Queensborough was tweeting about wanting it but I really struggle to see that.
Please. Anyone who thinks he can act needs to raise their standards
Would it kill you to accept that your opinion isn't definitive, rather than insulting people who don't agree? I don't know why I'm even asking, it clearly would.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Oct 17, 2022 14:49:31 GMT
Please. Anyone who thinks he can act needs to raise their standards
Would it kill you to accept that your opinion isn't definitive, rather than insulting people who don't agree? I don't know why I'm even asking, it clearly would.
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Post by annette on Oct 17, 2022 16:25:25 GMT
oh you only need to look at the Legally Blonde thread to see how it would go Or the Fairview thread Fairview and A Strange Loop are about as similar as When We Have Sufficiently Tortured Each Other and The Play That Went Wrong.
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Post by annette on Oct 17, 2022 16:28:58 GMT
Gary Glitter had a few popular tunes as well. There actually was a Gary Glitter musical at The Arts Theatre in the eighties. No revival since that though strangely.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Oct 17, 2022 20:43:58 GMT
It seems awfully early to announce the show is coming in 2024. Why does it matter?
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Post by danb on Oct 18, 2022 7:46:59 GMT
Does ‘Michael’ sing all of his songs in this, or does one of Five Star stand and sing them for him while he dances?
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Post by mrbarnaby on Oct 18, 2022 22:13:18 GMT
Listen to the cast recording and find out!
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Post by inthenose on Oct 19, 2022 11:19:39 GMT
Does ‘Michael’ sing all of his songs in this, or does one of Five Star stand and sing them for him while he dances? Didn’t they do “Everybody Get Up”?
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Post by og on Oct 24, 2022 8:44:56 GMT
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Post by orchidman on Oct 25, 2022 12:02:46 GMT
Going to be very hard to take Lynn Nottage seriously again after her hand in this
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 10, 2023 10:44:17 GMT
Tickets on sale 24th May
Performances from 6th March 24
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Post by keekio2 on Mar 16, 2023 11:25:53 GMT
So that’s confirmed Ivano won’t be in this
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Post by idinafanzel on Mar 16, 2023 17:23:13 GMT
Michael I believe is being played by a US actor first
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Post by Being Alive on Mar 16, 2023 17:45:42 GMT
So that’s confirmed Ivano won’t be in this Thank god
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Post by mrbarnaby on Mar 16, 2023 23:11:58 GMT
Michael I believe is being played by a US actor first Myles Frost is playing the role in London for the first few months.
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Post by ilovewemusicals on May 17, 2023 18:45:54 GMT
Michael I believe is being played by a US actor first Myles Frost is playing the role in London for the first few months. Did Myles do 8 shows a week on Broadway? Matinees? Also, does anyone know what day booking opens for Delfont Priority members?
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