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Post by anniel on Apr 29, 2022 20:18:41 GMT
Thanks for looking and trying to find a positive about the concerts! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2022 23:42:32 GMT
Thanks for looking and trying to find a positive about the concerts! The entire Proms season happening in full is a positive! The only people looking for negatives are those who seem to expect a classical music series to do full musicals by default, which is their own folly. The Proms are about celebrating classical music, which gets much less mainstream attention than much of the musical theatre that gets an airing in London theatres 6 days a week, not just a few weeks every summer! Besides, if you look for it you'll find Bernstein and Gershwin in the programme this year so I'm not really sure there is anything to complain about. |
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Post by anniel on Apr 30, 2022 23:18:03 GMT
Thanks for looking and trying to find a positive about the concerts! The entire Proms season happening in full is a positive! The only people looking for negatives are those who seem to expect a classical music series to do full musicals by default, which is their own folly. The Proms are about celebrating classical music, which gets much less mainstream attention than much of the musical theatre that gets an airing in London theatres 6 days a week, not just a few weeks every summer! Besides, if you look for it you'll find Bernstein and Gershwin in the programme this year so I'm not really sure there is anything to complain about. There have been musicals or MT themed concerts for the past ten years - hardly ‘folly’ I would suggest to hope for this to continue. And one out of 72 concerts - which are always popular, broadcast on the TV and repeated often is hardly ‘folly’ to hope for. Also, my licence fee contributes to the running of a radio station which is solely for classical music - ‘less mainstream attention’? I don’t think so. I also thought this was a forum where we would express different opinions. I am so pleased that you are happy with the programme. I am really disappointed that there are only 2 concerts with Early Choral music as well. I am sure you’ll find a way to tell me rudely that I am wrong to have that opinion too. |
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Post by ladidah on May 3, 2022 8:44:20 GMT
I agree, they've had a musical themed prom every year for surely decades now.
Asking for 1 out of 72 is pretty fair!
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Post by og on May 3, 2022 10:30:02 GMT
I agree, they've had a musical themed prom every year for surely decades now. Asking for 1 out of 72 is pretty fair! Playing devils advocate, looking at the last decade, I think "every year" is an overstatement. 2021 - Broadway compilation 2020 - nothing 2019 - nothing 2018 - West Side Story 2017 - Oklahoma 2016 - Gershwin revue 2015 - Fiddler on the Roof (opera) 2014 - Kiss me Kate 2013 - nothing 2012 - My Fair Lady 2011 - nothing 5 semi-staged productions, 4 years of nothing & 2 years of revues. Most have been at the helm of John Wilson who, as has been mentioned earlier, is pursuing a more classical direction currently. Should he give this up to appease people wanting a musical themed prom? There have been Gospel Proms regularly over the last decade but nothing this year, is that a snub for religious music? |
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Post by anniel on May 8, 2022 16:03:48 GMT
I agree, they've had a musical themed prom every year for surely decades now. Asking for 1 out of 72 is pretty fair! Playing devils advocate, looking at the last decade, I think "every year" is an overstatement. 2021 - Broadway compilation 2020 - nothing 2019 - nothing 2018 - West Side Story 2017 - Oklahoma 2016 - Gershwin revue 2015 - Fiddler on the Roof (opera) 2014 - Kiss me Kate 2013 - nothing 2012 - My Fair Lady 2011 - nothing 5 semi-staged productions, 4 years of nothing & 2 years of revues. Most have been at the helm of John Wilson who, as has been mentioned earlier, is pursuing a more classical direction currently. Should he give this up to appease people wanting a musical themed prom? There have been Gospel Proms regularly over the last decade but nothing this year, is that a snub for religious music? [/quote ] I really don’t want to be ‘that’ person but in 2019 - Warner Bros Prom (included musicals) 2013 was Film music (but had some MT content) 2011 Hooray for Hollywood. 2010 Sondheim one There was a cracking Sinatra prom one year as well as this and often G and S - so there is a tradition of ‘lighter’ fare. The My Fair Lady year, there was another John Wilson prom as well. Two MT themed proms - I wish I had realised at the time how fortunate we were. I agree that the fabulous John Wilson is a real loss to lighter music at the Proms but there are other conductors who could deliver good MT music. I wouldn’t have a problem with a regular gospel prom as well - there actually isn’t much religious music this year as there is so little choral music, in comparison to other years. Sorry for being fussy but I am trying to make a point! |
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Post by og on May 8, 2022 17:01:11 GMT
Playing devils advocate, looking at the last decade, I think "every year" is an overstatement. 2021 - Broadway compilation 2020 - nothing 2019 - nothing 2018 - West Side Story 2017 - Oklahoma 2016 - Gershwin revue 2015 - Fiddler on the Roof (opera) 2014 - Kiss me Kate 2013 - nothing 2012 - My Fair Lady 2011 - nothing 5 semi-staged productions, 4 years of nothing & 2 years of revues. Most have been at the helm of John Wilson who, as has been mentioned earlier, is pursuing a more classical direction currently. Should he give this up to appease people wanting a musical themed prom? There have been Gospel Proms regularly over the last decade but nothing this year, is that a snub for religious music? I really don’t want to be ‘that’ person but in 2019 - Warner Bros Prom (included musicals) 2013 was Film music (but had some MT content) 2011 Hooray for Hollywood. 2010 Sondheim one There was a cracking Sinatra prom one year as well as this and often G and S - so there is a tradition of ‘lighter’ fare. The My Fair Lady year, there was another John Wilson prom as well. Two MT themed proms - I wish I had realised at the time how fortunate we were. I agree that the fabulous John Wilson is a real loss to lighter music at the Proms but there are other conductors who could deliver good MT music. I wouldn’t have a problem with a regular gospel prom as well - there actually isn’t much religious music this year as there is so little choral music, in comparison to other years. Sorry for being fussy but I am trying to make a point! Corrected the formatting. Sorry to sound like an arse but yes I'm aware of those events. Firstly, I specified "looking at the last decade" (2011-21) hence no reference of proms in 2010. Moreover, the post I replied to specified "musical themed" and the Proms you've mentioned ('19/'13/'11) were Hollywood/Movie themed, not MT. Granted some MT songs were performed (in the same way Cynthia Erivo is singing a few MT songs this year). The point of object in some posts here was that there is no dedicated Musical Theatre prom, as there apparently had been for decades... Just calling it as I see it. This years Gaming Prom (Prom 21) features a suite from Battlefield, it doesn't make it a Battlefield themed prom. |
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Post by alece10 on May 21, 2022 8:06:26 GMT
Anyone in the queue this morning?
Im currently 2780 with an 85 minute wait.
ive missed the stress of trying to get Proms tickets.........
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Post by jek on May 21, 2022 8:43:33 GMT
alece10 I was at a number over 3000 at 9.00am. Was told it would be two hours. However it moved very quickly and in fact it was only 35 minutes. Processed my proms planner without any drama. My daughter is a final year music student at Cambridge University and I was sorting things out for her as much as for me so I feel hugely relieved. I can be popular mum again for a moment (though not quite as popular as I was when I got early Hamilton tickets back in her teenage years!)
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Post by alece10 on May 21, 2022 8:49:32 GMT
alece10 I was at a number over 3000 at 9.00am. Was told it would be two hours. However it moved very quickly and in fact it was only 35 minutes. Processed my proms planner without any drama. My daughter is a final year music student at Cambridge University and I was sorting things out for her as much as for me so I feel hugely relieved. I can be popular mum again for a moment (though not quite as popular as I was when I got early Hamilton tickets back in her teenage years!) Yes mine went quickly too and it was about 35 minutes in the end. I only wanted one Prom (Cynthia Erivo) and had submitted my plan in advance so it all went very smoothly and got my ticket. Only thing I would have preferred would be to allow you to select your own seat but I can understand why they allocate for you. I might, nearer the time, contact the box office to see if I can change to an aisle seat which is really what I need. Now I can enjoy the sunshine in the garden. |
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Post by og on Jul 15, 2022 15:04:05 GMT
Starts tonight!
Anyone headed down the rah for the first prom of the season?
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Post by alece10 on Jul 15, 2022 15:31:02 GMT
I have a ticket for Sunday but with the heat and now engineering works on District and Circle lines I'm probably going to give it a miss.
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Post by tmesis on Jul 15, 2022 19:38:23 GMT
I’m going to tomorrow’s prom conducted by John Wilson. I think he’s rather unfairly pigeon holed prom-wise as a broadway/film/classic musicals conductor when he’s very versatile and a superb classical exponent. Tomorrow he’s conducting Vaughan Williams and Elgar etc. and I’m very much looking forward to it (apart from the heat.)
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Post by og on Jul 16, 2022 9:26:25 GMT
I’m going to tomorrow’s prom conducted by John Wilson. I think he’s rather unfairly pigeon holed prom-wise as a broadway/film/classic musicals conductor when he’s very versatile and a superb classical exponent. Tomorrow he’s conducting Vaughan Williams and Elgar etc. and I’m very much looking forward to it (apart from the heat.) Enjoy! You'll be treated to Huw Watkin's Flute Concerto, which is a delight! |
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Post by TallPaul on Aug 27, 2022 8:16:20 GMT
The Cynthia Erivo prom is on BBC2 tonight - 8 to 9.50pm.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 27, 2022 11:23:45 GMT
I caught part of the Aretha Franklin Prom the other night on the radio. It was a brilliant piece of music making. Full of passion and soul.
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Post by tmesis on Aug 27, 2022 12:57:14 GMT
Mahler’s 2nd with Rattle conducting LSO was quite an event on Wednesday night. The RAH - pretty problematic for so much classical music - was well nigh ideal for such a monumental piece. The off-stage instruments were really effective.
I’ve seen Rattle many times in concert and quite often been underwhelmed, even when conducting BPO but he really delivered here and the all important, transcendental climactic ending was the best I’ve ever heard in this piece.
It’s on BBC 4 tomorrow night.
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Post by FairyGodmother on Aug 27, 2022 20:54:28 GMT
The Cynthia Erivo prom is on BBC2 tonight - 8 to 9.50pm. Thank you, I'm watching it now (very behind!). In about 5 minutes I'll stop thinking about how painful that nose piercing must have been... I love her voice, and I'm a big fan of the BBC Concert Orchestra so this is right up my street.  |
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Post by Mark on Aug 27, 2022 20:57:28 GMT
What a stunning performance. She's the real deal isn't she.. wonderful.
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Post by karloscar on Aug 27, 2022 21:17:14 GMT
Well that was even better than expected,though not quite the religious experience that Andi Oliver clearly was having. Well chosen repertoire, expertly delivered, and deserving of that ovation.
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Post by alece10 on Aug 28, 2022 8:06:52 GMT
I had a ticket for this prom but wasn't able to go in the end so pleased it was filmed. I had listened to it on the radio before so knew what to expect. It was a brilliant concert and Cynthia sounded incredible. Great choice and mix of songs.
She isn't a natural at interacting with the audience when talking though.
Only thing that spoilt it for me were the commentators who prattle on and were far too gushing.
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Post by og on Aug 28, 2022 10:32:54 GMT
I had a ticket for this prom but wasn't able to go in the end so pleased it was filmed. I had listened to it on the radio before so knew what to expect. It was a brilliant concert and Cynthia sounded incredible. Great choice and mix of songs. She isn't a natural at interacting with the audience when talking though.
Only thing that spoilt it for me were the commentators who prattle on and were far too gushing. Yes, this is something I've been starting to notice too. It's like every music event Beeb televise has to be presented like a football match. Preamble before kick off, half time analysis, guest pundits with some relevant experience etc. Except usually its either a dance around trying to find alternative words for virtuoso as they shower praise on the key performer, or the pundits are trying to outdo each other or the presenter and it all becomes a bit insincere. They do some nice rehearsal footage edits though and with the right Presenter/Editor team there can be some interesting musical analysis and history. It's just sometimes they fall into the trap of playing it very safe or the limited resources show, there's only so many times in a season Neil Brand can guest. haha. Watched the Aretha Franklin Prom last night and wow what a treat!! Jules Bukley as every with some fantastic arrangements and Sheléa - to whom this was my first introduction - really did all the songs justice. |
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Post by david on Aug 28, 2022 16:57:27 GMT
Having a lazy sunday with a catch up watching the Aretha Franklin tribute and Cynthia Erivo prom concerts this afternoon and what fantastic concerts they are with two wonderful singers and orchestra's. A real joy watching those two ladies perform at the RAH.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Aug 30, 2022 9:34:16 GMT
Good lord Cynthia Erivos prom was sensational.
What a voice. Not a hugely engaging personality but that voice.
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Post by jek on Sept 3, 2022 16:28:00 GMT
Just back from the ENO Glass/Handel prom at the Printworks at Canada Water. It was a lot of fun with Anthony Roth Constanzo looking and sounding ravishing in Raf Simons couture. The venue is clearly used to a different sort of clientele given the list of prohibitions on the door. This afternoon's audience was more likely to be in possession of an artificial hip than an artificial substance. It certainly didn't feel like the prom had attracted a particularly different sort of audience from the norm. They are repeating it again this evening and tickets are still available if anyone fancies an evening of feeling like you are actually in a Peter Greenaway movie, as dancers with torches process among the throng! Sensible shoes and the ability to stand/promenade for an hour and twenty minutes required.
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