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Post by mkb on Nov 24, 2021 10:27:34 GMT
Most of this was originally in the Chorus Line thread, but I thought it merited a separate discussion.
I regularly read comments from prolific theatregoers (of which I'm one) to the effect: "Ninety minutes, straight through. Wonderful!" It makes me wonder whether they are actually enjoying the theatrical occasion, or whether they're so inured to it, that it has become a ritual that has to be suffered, and the quicker it is over, the better.
For my part, I love the full theatrical experience, and, to that end, I thought that a paean to the theatrical tradition that is the interval was long overdue.
There is the obvious practical issue that coming and going from your seat at a theatre is disruptive, and therefore suitable toilet breaks are essential. Theatre, especially in the provinces, tends to have an older demographic, and weakness of bladder gets worse as you grow older.
There is the obvious commercial issue, that intervals generate bar and concession sales, which help sustain the industry. A long show without a break means that not only are interval drink sales lost, but pre-show drinks cannot be risked by those whose bladders will not last the duration.
Those issues aside, I would argue that there are good aesthetic reasons for an interval.
A well-constructed play or show benefits from that pause between acts that allows you time to take stock, reflect, and wonder/discuss where it's going. The sense of anticipation of the next act, while savouring the previous, is a precious part of the experience. In some dramas, the first act finale can be so intense, that you need the comedown that an interval provides in order to mentally reset for the next act.
To take an example, Sondheim is on record as preferring Follies without an interval. I've seen it on Broadway with, and twice at the National without. I'm afraid I have to strongly disagree with Mr Sondheim. Artistically for me, it worked far better with the interval. There is simply too much to take in with all the characters in one sitting. Assimilating my thoughts during the break, aided my enjoyment of the piece. I think people's familiarity with a work sometimes hinders them from understanding how it is experienced by first-timers.
When a playwright, or a director, skips the interval, it's often a sign of lack of confidence in the material, and fear that the full audience may not return.
I've occasionally seen a play that had a building, simmering tension that demanded to be uninterrupted, but such a beast is pretty rare in truth.
For your typical theatregoer, for whom this might be a once- or twice-a-year treat, they want a full evening experience, not something that's over in less time than it takes to perform Les Mis act 1.
In the world of cinema, despite the increasing number of films with running times in excess of 150 minutes, the pressure to maximise the number of screenings per day means that the intermission is an animal on the verge of extinction. The Irishman, at 209 minutes, was an extreme case in point. Gone are the days when such movies would be issued as "roadshow" epics, replete with overture, intermission, entr'acte and play-out music. That made for a grand occasion; now, the cinemagoer is merely a commodity on the production line to be in and out of the screen as fast as possible.
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Post by mrnutz on Nov 24, 2021 10:39:58 GMT
I LOVE an interval.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Nov 24, 2021 10:54:50 GMT
To me the interval is an unnecessary intervention and takes me out of the moment and is an unnecessary hassle as people leave and return.
Caveat , primarily a solo attendee and attend so many productions that it is not an event, 1 1/2 to 2hrs, out 9:30 home for 10:30 for me is a perfect timeframe.
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Post by mkb on Nov 24, 2021 11:00:58 GMT
To me the interval is an unnecessary intervention and takes me out of the moment and is an unnecessary hassle as people leave and return. Caveat , primarily a solo attendee and attend so many productions that it is not an event, 1 1/2 to 2hrs, out 9:30 home for 10:30 for me is a perfect timeframe. I see 150+ shows a year, but every one is still an event for me. When that ceases to be so, I'll stop going; it will have become simply a habit. I did that with cinemagoing. Up until 2000, I was seeing so many films that it had become a habit, and I wasn't really enjoying a lot of them. I took a decade out from that, and then went back to being more selective about what I would see. I now find going to the cinema so much more pleasurable again. It is back to being an event.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Nov 24, 2021 11:11:36 GMT
I'm generally anti interval. Although they are handy for when the show is terrible and you want to escape
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Post by craig on Nov 24, 2021 11:14:48 GMT
It really depends on the show and, largely, I think writers and directors get it right.
I love an interval, but I'm glad there's not one in Come From Away, for instance.
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Post by Mark on Nov 24, 2021 11:24:13 GMT
Interesting topic. If I'm seeing a play or show which I know is long, I'll try and book it for a matinee where possible. Equally for a shorter show I will try and book it for an evening. A 3 hour play starting at 7:30 means realistically I won't get home until close to midnight. That said it matters less when the next day is a day off, and more so when the next day is a work day.
Regarding intervals, I agree about the need to pee... The last thing I want do before seeing Come From Away is to have a beer just before. But then a more typical musical with an hour an act and a 20 minute interval? Sure we can have some cocktails just before.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Nov 24, 2021 11:36:49 GMT
Badly defined event, what I mean is that for some people it is rare night out to the theatre and will make an evening of it, meal before, a drink in the interval and then on to somewhere.
The Production is my event and continues to be, the travel, grabbing something to eat is just a hassle, for me the performance is all and the interval is a distraction.
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Post by Dawnstar on Nov 24, 2021 12:03:13 GMT
I'm in favour of intervals solely from the point of view of wanting loo breaks.
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Post by alece10 on Nov 24, 2021 17:02:39 GMT
If a musical can get away without an interval I'm all for it as it means I can be home earlier. Also some musicals are designed run straight through to keep the momentum going. But intervals are fine if that's how the show is built and if its too long to not have one. I'm sure most people can last 90 mins without a toilet break, they can do it at the cinema and most films are 2 hours plus once you add in the adverts. Saying that I was at Frozen recently and the same man went to the toilet 3 times in Act 1. I can also understand theatres wanting the interval for revenue. I've seen a couple of shows that could easily go right through but an interval is added and the 2nd act is very short and you lose the flow. When Close To You the Bacharach show was at the Menier it had no interval but when it moved to the Criterian they put in an interval with the 2nd half being 20 minutes. So no sooner had you sat down it was all over.
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Post by Jon on Nov 24, 2021 17:20:43 GMT
It depends on the show, something like Angels in America for example does need the intervals to break up the structure, it'd be a massive slog without one.
IIRC Delfont Mackintosh used to charge shows a certain amount of money if they don't have an interval to make up for any loss of bar sales which is odd considering they'd still make money from bar sales before the show.
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Post by marob on Nov 24, 2021 17:47:38 GMT
I don’t go to the cinema much, but when I saw Dune a few weeks back I was struck by how many people got up to go to the toilet. Only about 20-25 people in the screening and yet I must have been one of the few that wasn’t coming and going. If the interval helps stop that happening in theatres then good.
I’m fine sitting for about an hour and a half, then after that I slowly get more and more uncomfortable so I like an interval as it’s an opportunity to stretch my legs a bit.
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Post by theatreian on Nov 24, 2021 17:52:53 GMT
For me it depends on the length of the show. A shortish show with no interval is fine, but any longer than say 90 minutes and it gets too long. You can lose your concentration and the obvious toilet break . It is also nice to stretch your legs, necessary in some theatres with lack of leg room.
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Post by Jon on Nov 24, 2021 17:56:51 GMT
I don’t go to the cinema much, but when I saw Dune a few weeks back I was struck by how many people got up to go to the toilet. Only about 20-25 people in the screening and yet I must have been one of the few that wasn’t coming and going. If the interval helps stop that happening in theatres then good. I’m fine sitting for about an hour and a half, then after that I slowly get more and more uncomfortable so I like an interval as it’s an opportunity to stretch my legs a bit. I blame the food and drink they consumed.
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Post by kathryn on Nov 24, 2021 18:18:37 GMT
I’ll never forget the RSC/Tennant Hamlet, which placed the interval at the moment when he is poised to stab Claudius at prayer.
There were young ‘uns in the audience who found it suspenseful, judging by the interval chatter, because they genuinely didn’t know what was going to happen next.
Sometimes an interval placed wisely can heighten the drama.
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Post by mkb on Nov 24, 2021 18:40:44 GMT
It depends on the show, something like Angels in America for example does need the intervals to break up the structure, it'd be a massive slog without one. IIRC Delfont Mackintosh used to charge shows a certain amount of money if they don't have an interval to make up for any loss of bar sales which is odd considering they'd still make money from bar sales before the show. If there is no interval, you won't be risking any drinks before unless you have a very strong bladder.
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Post by crowblack on Nov 24, 2021 19:03:10 GMT
If it's over 90 minutes then yes, it really needs an interval, or if it's a film, an intermission like the old-school cinema epics. Even if you yourself don't need a wee, it's often fairly obvious that other people do and are shifting in their seats, even in an intense and gripping play. I was in a car accident in my teens so if I'm sitting still for an hour or more back pain to kick in, and my mother just can't sit through a long play any more: streaming has been fantastic for her and for many others with mobility or disability issues that really restrict their access to theatre and cinema.
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Post by asfound on Nov 25, 2021 1:08:10 GMT
Never liked intervals in any length of show tbh. Completely breaks immersion and takes me out of the moment. Mood and atmosphere is lost as the lights come up, phones come out, and you have to sit there listening to the inane chatter around you. Then you have to get up, let people back in, get back into the story etc. I often just find them boring and unnecessary - maybe it's just me, but it's not that hard to plan ahead so you don't have to get up, even for a 3+ hour film.
I'm loving this new trend of abandoning them!
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Nov 25, 2021 8:58:50 GMT
Never liked intervals in any length of show tbh. Completely breaks immersion and takes me out of the moment. Mood and atmosphere is lost as the lights come up, phones come out, and you have to sit there listening to the inane chatter around you. Then you have to get up, let people back in, get back into the story etc. I often just find them boring and unnecessary - maybe it's just me, but it's not that hard to plan ahead so you don't have to get up, even for a 3+ hour film. I'm loving this new trend of abandoning them! I thought that until I saw Spacey's Richard III at the Old Vic
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Post by Jan on Nov 25, 2021 9:09:00 GMT
I don't mind an interval if it is half-way through or (preferably) later but I dislike them if they are in the first half of the play so the post-interval length is longer. Also I hate having two intervals though you don't see that much these days. With some traditional three-act plays - Ibsen for example - there's no entirely satisfactory place to put an interval at all.
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Post by crowblack on Nov 25, 2021 9:41:44 GMT
it's not that hard to plan ahead so you don't have to get up, even for a 3+ hour film. Many people's bodies aren't made that way. For many women, particularly, and without getting graphic there are issues that arise, especially as we get older or have had children that mean we can't comfortably do three hours without a break.
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Post by cavocado on Nov 25, 2021 10:15:28 GMT
If I'm on my own I prefer no interval and to get home earlier, but if I'm with someone (or next to a chatty stranger) I don't mind a break in the middle. But I find it hard to focus for 2+ hours without an interval.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Nov 25, 2021 11:36:51 GMT
maybe it's just me, but it's not that hard to plan ahead so you don't have to get up, even for a 3+ hour film. I'm loving this new trend of abandoning them! It has nothing to do with “planning” and everything to do with being young and able-bodied.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2021 12:00:42 GMT
When people go to the toilets during the interval it's for a reason, and that reason is not because they just can't get enough of the smell.
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Post by vdcni on Nov 25, 2021 12:46:40 GMT
I don't mind not having an interval in the right production - Follies was fine for example - but generally I do prefer them. I'm a tall guy and I like to have a walk and a stretch, I will usually go for aisle seats as otherwise my legs often get very cramped in the average theatre seating. And I never say no to another drink!
As already mentioned it's better if the interval doesn't come in until at least halfway through the play. Knowing I'm coming back for a longer second half is a struggle, particularly if the play hasn't grabbed me.
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