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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 12:07:14 GMT
RC every time for new writing I did not like Faith Machine or The Pride Some problem you have Stirring As you havent even seen this play Are you really valid I mean as a person Your existence |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 13:06:49 GMT
Will someone tear these two apart,
What is this fighting all about,
This is a chatroom, not a circus,
Now come on ladies, settle dooooown,
This is a board of some repute,
La la la... etcetera etcetera etcetera
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 14:12:40 GMT
No more.
It shouldn't be beyond anyone here to read what they've written before they post it and delete it if there's nothing there but insults against another poster.
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Post by TheatreDust on May 29, 2016 22:23:47 GMT
Noticed that there was already a thread on this play - could admin team merge the threads? Now merged - TD. |
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Post by lynette on May 29, 2016 22:39:03 GMT
I'm not defending gratuitous rudeness and this silly bickering but I would like to make a couple of points. First of all when you feel the pain you have to leave. Leaving in the interval isn't a capital offence. And secondly we are an unofficial group of self appointed critics on this Board and if someone thinks a show is crap, then what is the problem with that? We can disagree. We should try to keep our comments about the play, avoid being too rude about individual actors ( some directors are fair game though) and please do not insult another poster. An insult is a comment you wouldn't like made about you.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 0:06:51 GMT
I'm not defending gratuitous rudeness and this silly bickering but I would like to make a couple of points. First of all when you feel the pain you have to leave. Leaving in the interval isn't a capital offence. And secondly we are an unofficial group of self appointed critics on this Board and if someone thinks a show is crap, then what is the problem with that? We can disagree. We should try to keep our comments about the play, avoid being too rude about individual actors ( some directors are fair game though) and please do not insult another poster. An insult is a comment you wouldn't like made about you. Well said Thanks An actress asked me a few weeks ago if I ever leave at the interval And was approving at my honesty She thought It's honourable to leave if you aren't enjoying the show Like putting a dying animal out of its misery This is an actress who has been on stage at the NT Almeida West End and extensively on prime time TV Defending the audience right to walk out |
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Post by showgirl on May 30, 2016 4:24:41 GMT
I sometimes leave at the interval. I would rather not, but it is my choice, my time, my money. I cannot recall an occasion when it has ever been a reflection on the cast or even the production as a whole; it is always about the writing. Besides, if I show my approval by applauding, it follows that I may indicate disapproval by departing, as obviously I wouldn't direct my dissatisfaction at the actors.
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Post by n1david on May 30, 2016 7:29:03 GMT
I have sometimes left at the interval and think it's absolutely my prerogative to do so, but I am always careful to qualify my views on the production because I didn't see all of it. I don't think you can say you have seen a show unless you sit through all of it.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 10:18:00 GMT
I have sometimes walked out midscene when I just couldn't stand it any longer. To extremely disapproving looks from other audience members.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 10:45:03 GMT
I have sometimes walked out midscene when I just couldn't stand it any longer. To extremely disapproving looks from other audience members. God Do what you like You have paid or been given the ticket so can do as you please Patients don't turn up for about 10% of GP appointments yet can then just rebook and waste another slot immediately if they make a fuss without even bothering to apologise and last week a patient left A&E mid way through being treated and couldn't even be arsed to tell anyone he had gone I don't seen many people protesting about this criminal and blatant waste of resources People on the board need a reality check |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 30, 2016 10:46:32 GMT
I don't think I'd ever walk out mid-scene but an interval departure is totally fine in my book. I was listening to Tim Minchin being interviewed on a podcast yesterday and he was recounting how as a child his father would sometimes walk out at the interval while he and his mother never would. His mother used to say "there's always something worth staying for, even if it's only the costumes". I couldn't disagree more. And I do wonder why we're expected to indulge these creative types in a way that we wouldn't dream of indulging people working in any other industry.
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Post by addictedtotheatre on May 30, 2016 11:02:17 GMT
I know its only had its first preview but has anyone seen this? Is it worth booking? I'm going on Saturday and will let you know what I think. I'm particularly looking forward to seeing Pippa Nixon on stage again. vickster51 - do you concur with parsley's review? |
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Post by Phantom of London on May 30, 2016 11:03:03 GMT
I have never known any of the professional critics to walk out in the interval and then report that the play is crap or rubbish.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 11:04:24 GMT
The strongest argument against walking out midscene is that it is disruptive and so spoils other people's enjoyment. I only do it when the production is making me so agitated that I can't contain my irritation and so would be even more disruptive (and for longer) if I were to remain there.
It's usually the style of production that gets to me. Examples are an RSC production in the Swan which was incomprehensible with its archaic language so that I eventually realised that I had no idea who any of the characters were and so it was pointless staying. And a Shared Experience show where the received pronunciation of one character was excruciatingly unbearable to listen to.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 11:21:55 GMT
I have my suspicions about professional critics apparently not leaving at the interval. If you cast your mind back to the Ernest Hemingway musical Too Close To The Sun, the critics either thought it was too terrible for words, or so bad you could get a lot of enjoyment out of it. Having seen the show myself and noted a marked tonal difference between the two acts, I rather suspect the first camp of critics didn't bother hanging around. I don't suppose any of them will admit it, but I'd be willing to put money on all the professional critics having left one or two shows at least during the interval.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 11:29:48 GMT
Anything that spoils the enjoyment of others is just plain wrong, whether that be muttering, leaving during a scene or whatever, if someone can't not react then they have a big ego problem. Doing that is saying that they are more important than anyone else in the theatre who, because of the nature of taste, will be having a completely different, and likely more positive, reaction. Leaving quietly at an interval is fine but it does reflect badly on that person's choices; in the age of the internet you can do your homework before a show and so should rarely get it so disastrously wrong. If someone leaves frequently then they really need to get a grip on their decision making.
Having said that I tend to like productions that have people walking out, usually it is about matters other than quality and if a show can anger people in that way then it can be doing something very much right for a number of others.
I doubt I'll see this particular play as there wasn't much that appealed to me about it but positive reviews might change that. I find that positive reviews make me interested in seeing something as they are rooted in a commonality of joy whereas negative reviews usually just reflect the misery of the individual.
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Post by horton on May 30, 2016 12:34:24 GMT
I can't agree with that "you've paid so do what you like" attitude: everyone else has paid too and there is no need to disturb them. I can't believe that the realization that a play is intolerable comes on that suddenly- surely it's possible to wait for a convenient break between scenes before leaving?
I have sometimes made a judgement call and not returned after the interval- Elaine Paige's 'Anything Goes' springs to mind when I realized I was at a party that everyone else seemed to love whilst I was just getting increasingly irritated. I also left halfway through Judi Dench's 'The Seagull'- I don't think anything at all had happened by the time I left- dull, dull, dull!
I also left the infamous Day Lewis 'Hamlet'- just before he did apparently.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 30, 2016 12:53:00 GMT
I also left halfway through Judi Dench's 'The Seagull'- I don't think anything at all had happened by the time I left- dull, dull, dull! I have it on good authority that Judi noticed you'd left and has never quite got over it... |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 13:08:36 GMT
I can't agree with that "you've paid so do what you like" attitude: everyone else has paid too and there is no need to disturb them. I can't believe that the realization that a play is intolerable comes on that suddenly- surely it's possible to wait for a convenient break between scenes before leaving? I have sometimes made a judgement call and not returned after the interval- Elaine Paige's 'Anything Goes' springs to mind when I realized I was at a party that everyone else seemed to love whilst I was just getting increasingly irritated. I also left halfway through Judi Dench's 'The Seagull'- I don't think anything at all had happened by the time I left- dull, dull, dull! I also left the infamous Day Lewis 'Hamlet'- just before he did apparently. I usually always leave at the interval Very rarely during the show only in exceptional cases And even then during scene change To be honest The row can manage It's hardly a major drama I usually go alone Take no bags And agile and slender And so slim people don't even need to stand up to let me paSs |
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Post by horton on May 30, 2016 13:58:26 GMT
I also left halfway through Judi Dench's 'The Seagull'- I don't think anything at all had happened by the time I left- dull, dull, dull! I have it on good authority that Judi noticed you'd left and has never quite got over it... I'm not surprised- I was playing Konstantin... |
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Post by Marwood on May 30, 2016 14:06:11 GMT
I haven't left that many theatre shows (3 or 4 over the last 10 years or so), and always at the interval, never during a performance as I think that is rude both to the performers and your fellow audience (although in the case of some of the audience members I've had sat next to me, I have been tempted to leave and stomp/shove my way past). At the end of the day, it's my money that paid for it, if I'm not enjoying it or at least getting something out of it, I'm going to cut my losses and leave.
I used to always sit through films at the cinema regardless of the quality of the film, Black Mass at the London Film Festival last year was the first time I've ever walked out of a film, I thought it was bloody awful and bailed after about 45 minutes or so - I didn't care if Depp and Cumberbatch were lurking in the shadows, life is too short to sit through dreck.
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Post by Phantom of London on May 30, 2016 15:08:22 GMT
I am not complaining that people who leave during the show (which is inconsiderate), or leave during the interval, disqualifies them from having a valid opinion on the very show.
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Post by rumbledoll on May 30, 2016 15:22:29 GMT
I had an intent to leave theatre once or twice but never did. Something in me was hoping it gets better in the second half (and sometimes it does indeed!).
Cinema is different.. No live audience/acting so it's not that rude and hurts nobody's feelings I guess.. Left on a couple occasions when I could not endure anymore.. I remember once (Tree of Life it was) I really wanted to but my friend I went with was curling in the chair fast asleep beside me so I hated to wake her up and continued the torture. But yeah, life is to short for a crap film.
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Post by rumbledoll on May 30, 2016 15:26:06 GMT
Returning to the topic - anyone seen this apart from Mister I-Hate-Everything? I fancy it because of Sam Crane & Ben Miles and 20 quid front row Friday Rush seats but it if proves to be that awful by everyone I might give it a miss.. Not too many days in London to spare and so much I want to see!
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 17:23:34 GMT
Yes, Ben Miles is the draw for me, too. Will have to check out auditorium configuration and see if I can find something reasonable in the sightline nightmare that is the Dorfman.
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