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Post by partytentdown on Jun 22, 2023 13:23:16 GMT
How many times did you go in the end, Steffi? I went twice and didn't quite get into it.
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Post by Steffi on Jun 22, 2023 13:53:51 GMT
How many times did you go in the end, Steffi? I went twice and didn't quite get into it. I have been 40+ times thanks to various ticket offers over the past year. I have to say though, the more I went the more I noticed flaws. I do think the show has a lot of potential and the Persephone narrative is one of Punchdrunk‘s best storytelling in my opinion. There are some beautiful scenes and I love the contrast between the vast space of Mycenae and the almost claustrophobic feel of Troy (although following characters there is a pain unless you’re familiar with the loops). But I hardly ever was emotionally invested in any character‘s story (apart from Persephone). I had some wonderful shows with the most magical little moments. But Burnt City never felt like „home“ (for lack of a better word). Totally different to what it felt/feels to enter Temple Studios or the McKittrick Hotel. I do feel for cast and crew who have worked so hard to make this show work. I will make one last visit in August to say goodbye to the space. Not going to the last show because funny enough I will only just have returned from NYC a day earlier.
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Post by firefingers on Jul 8, 2023 8:54:29 GMT
Had a confusing but overall enjoyable time with this.
I've never been to a Punchdrunk show before, but a friend wanted to try it. I'm really not a fan of audience participation (well me participating anyway) but the show doesn't ask much of its audience in that way so once out of the museum intro I found it very comfortable. The anonymity of the masks also helped put me at ease.
Our initial group headed to Greece first, and having seen Troy through the window on the stairs I knew there were two areas to explore. I didn't spend much time with any particular characters, instead stopping to watch the scenes I bumped into whilst wandering the sets. I quickly knew I wasn't going to understand the plot of it, and I feel I wasn't really supposed to, so just enjoyed exploring the spaces. It is ideal theatre to go to alone as you can't communicate once inside anyway, althoygh having to people to meet up with afger to compare experiences was certsinly enjoyabld. Maybe bring a pocket sized book for the waiting area bar once they've locked your phone away.
Personally I'd have loved a print out of the cast board to carry round and try and piece together who everyone was. Or perhaps in world posters (propaganda, adverts etc) with some of the headshots on that could be changed out for different casts. Or perhaps even just do what the operas do and have the ability to find out the full plot.
What I find fascinating is that even though I found it a bit baffling overall, I found my mind does keep coming back to it. I'm back down South next month so I may revisit it, and I don't revisit shows often.
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Post by mkb on Jul 8, 2023 10:09:14 GMT
...Personally I'd have loved a print out of the cast board to carry round and try and piece together who everyone was. Or perhaps in world posters (propaganda, adverts etc) with some of the headshots on that could be changed out for different casts. Or perhaps even just do what the operas do and ve the ability to find out the full plot. ... I just tell them I haven't brought my phone (untrue). They just accept that, and no-one is going to mind as long as it's on silent and kept securely in your pocket in the show. (Let's face it: anyone who's determined to secretly film or take pics is just going to take an old second phone to hand in.) It does mean that you can remind yourself of characters and plot when you pop to the toilet. With my memory, I needed to do that a few times!
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Post by stagebyte on Aug 25, 2023 13:34:20 GMT
Hi going tonight for those who have been before can you offer some idea on where to start pls? I’ve seen SNM and realise you’re not going to see everything but I knew Macbeth so it made it an easy decision to follow him to get an idea. I’m going with a first timer tonight who is want to get ‘something’ out of the visit. Suggestion on who to follow would be good?
Also a couple of random questions. How many loops? Finish time? is it the same for everyone despite what time you get in? Is the last loop finale signalled in some way so it’s not missed? How do you get to see both? And two questions for my younger friend Do you need ID for the bar? Is it possible to wear glasses under the mask
Thank you
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Post by stagebyte on Aug 25, 2023 13:51:16 GMT
Also is there anywhere nearby my partner can wait for us?
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Post by dr on Aug 25, 2023 13:58:50 GMT
for those who have been before can you offer some idea on where to start pls? I’ve seen SNM and realise you’re not going to see everything but I knew Macbeth so it made it an easy decision to follow him to get an idea. I’m going with a first timer tonight who is want to get ‘something’ out of the visit. Suggestion on who to follow would be good? How many loops? Finish time? is it the same for everyone despite what time you get in? Is the last loop finale signalled in some way so it’s not missed? How do you get to see both? Do you need ID for the bar? Is it possible to wear glasses under the mask Hi there! These are my take-aways from my visit last year, but others may have different advice and opinions to offer. I know it's often said with Punchdrunk, but it really is advisable to let go of trying to appreciate the minute details, and follow your intuition. Although there will definitely be confusing moments, it's possible to take something from the show without understanding anything - it's about how you feel, and how you interpret the events. That said, the show website has a page with some brief details to read up on, covering the vague context of the piece (some of this is also provided at the very start of the show). If you would like to quickly read up on the source material itself, the Wikipedia summaries for Eurpides' Hecuba and Aeschylus' Agamemnon should give you a flavour. I'd recommend reading the plays too, although it might be a little late! There are 3 loops, each an hour long, then the finale at the end. The show will finish 3 hours after the earliest entry slot - so probably around 22:00, according to the website. It finishes at the same time for everyone (and you can try to sneak in earlier than your ticket says, to get more time exploring!) The finale is signalled by the entire cast moving towards the main areas, inviting you to follow them. It should be clear, but if in doubt, ask a member of staff in a black mask to help you out. I don't believe it's possible to see both finales, as they run simultaneously. So it's a game of chance - but I've heard both are stunning. According to the FAQs, they're running a Challenge 25 policy, so ID may be needed. As a glasses-wearer, the Punchdrunk mask does fit over glasses! It may feel a little uncomfortable at first, but eventually I forgot it was there. If they would like to remove the mask, just ask a staff member to direct you to the bar. Enjoy the show! Although opinions seem to be mixed, a Punchdrunk mask show is a truly unique experience, and with this potentially being their last new offering, it's certainly a reason to get excited.
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Post by Dave B on Aug 25, 2023 14:05:49 GMT
As a glasses-wearer, the Punchdrunk mask does fit over glasses! It may feel a little uncomfortable at first, but eventually I forgot it was there. I found this was absolutely not the case and really struggled with glasses & mask. A member of the team noticed and told me it was no problem at all to not wear the mask, this made the rest of the visit considerably more comfortable.
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Post by stagebyte on Aug 25, 2023 14:16:18 GMT
Thank you both so much that was really helpful. In terms of costume anyone to look out for in particular?
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Post by andrew on Aug 25, 2023 14:17:03 GMT
Worth noting that a lot of the recent shows have been two loops again, instead of three, due to heat and humidity.
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Post by stagebyte on Aug 25, 2023 14:35:54 GMT
Worth noting that a lot of the recent shows have been two loops again, instead of three, due to heat and humidity. Would it be an earlier finish time in that case? Or would they pad it out to finish around 10pm Thanks
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Post by tal on Aug 25, 2023 15:11:28 GMT
Worth noting that a lot of the recent shows have been two loops again, instead of three, due to heat and humidity. Would it be an earlier finish time in that case? Or would they pad it out to finish around 10pm Thanks On a two-loop day, the audiences start to enter at 7:00pm, actors start to enter at 7:30pm, and the show ends at around 9:30pm.
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Post by stagebyte on Aug 25, 2023 16:54:41 GMT
How strict are they on entrance times?
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Post by stagebyte on Aug 25, 2023 22:17:26 GMT
Enjoyed tonight. Have to appreciate the talent of the dancers - however… After being blown away by Sleep No More I have to say I was disappointed by the production values on this one. The rooms weren’t as richly detailed. There were a fraction of the ones at the McKittrick which was akin to a film set. Sadly The person I brought (first time Punchdrunk visitor) also echoed something someone else said up the thread about ‘wandering around a warehouse’ He tried to follow a few characters but said the characters kept disappearing and he wasn’t able to pick them up again. The execution with the cards and mask pick up was far more theatrical in NY - you felt immersed from the minute you arrived. Unfortunately, the first four rooms I could still hear the noise from the bar and you never got the sense the staff doling out the cards and masks hearts were in it. Bar was packed when we came out at the last loop and didn’t seem the crowds I remember at SNM I still think of Sleep no more as an electric theatrical experience. Sadly this felt sub par.
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Post by partytentdown on Aug 25, 2023 22:20:40 GMT
Not sure about now, but it used to be possible to squeeze both finales in if you watched the Troy (neon city area) finale first then headed through the big doors and along the corridor to Mycenae (sandy, open space).
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Post by partytentdown on Aug 25, 2023 22:20:52 GMT
Not sure about now, but it used to be possible to squeeze both finales in if you watched the Troy (neon city area) finale first then headed sharpish through the big doors and along the corridor to Mycenae (sandy, open space).
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Post by stagebyte on Aug 25, 2023 22:32:22 GMT
Not sure about now, but it used to be possible to squeeze both finales in if you watched the Troy (neon city area) finale first then headed sharpish through the big doors and along the corridor to Mycenae (sandy, open space). We got them the wrong way round so watched Mycenae then went down to Troy and had missed it and were ushered out One thing I thought was a bit cheeky was the reduced time. We got two loops instead of three due to ‘heat and humidity. It wasn’t exactly a scorcher today but I was told by someone else that it’s to do with the building, it can’t cope with crowds and as a result becomes unsafe for the dancers (fair enough) but don’t advertise three loops.
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Post by andrew on Aug 26, 2023 0:45:50 GMT
Not sure about now, but it used to be possible to squeeze both finales in if you watched the Troy (neon city area) finale first then headed through the big doors and along the corridor to Mycenae (sandy, open space). It is still possible, as long as you follow Hades/Persephone when they leave Troy to head over to Mycenae, at any point after that you will not be allowed to go and will be sent to Peep (unless it's a quiet show which I don't think there will be any until closing).
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Post by lolalou on Aug 28, 2023 16:09:33 GMT
Saw this at the weekend. Sad to have to give my mask and card back in. They let us keep them in NY
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