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Post by karloscar on Sept 5, 2021 11:15:58 GMT
I wonder how long the band spent in the motion capture suits. I imagine it was a short time, to capture any gestures that seem particularly 'them', especially in the 'between song' moments that will make it feel more real. For the rest of it, they'd surely get younger performers to recreate the dance routines - ABBA weren't great dancers, but there was energy, and they wouldn't move the same way now. I now see I was quite wrong about this. Motion capture with the band for 5 weeks. It does allow them to say, 'you're really seeing us'. Including rehearsal time? For all those songs, that's not really that long. I guess, sticking with the integrity of 'it's really us' a lot of it will be quite static, pointing, posing in time to the music. So no extra dance routines beyond what they really did in the past. Not sure the performances will be that spectacular, but where it'll score is between song interactions (and within). The Roy Orbison (and others) shared upthread look unconvincing, because there's an orchestra going for it, and no turn from 'Roy' to acknowledge or get into the music with them. It doesn't matter how great the technology, it's the small things like that (even faked mistakes) that will make it look real. Storylining really. They've hired Wayne McGregor from the Royal Ballet to choreograph the show. Either he's getting a load of money for nothing, or they've put in a lot of effort into staging the show.
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Post by max on Sept 5, 2021 11:23:13 GMT
Why don't they perform on Tuesdays and Wednesdays? Keeping it real with intravenous Sanatogen and a lie down for the Abbatars?
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Post by interval99 on Sept 5, 2021 11:26:52 GMT
First night presale tickets all gone. If the rumours are true and all four ABBA members are planning to attend in person to watch their Abbatars then this was the night to go for.
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Post by ruthieh on Sept 5, 2021 11:36:21 GMT
Thought I’d registered for presale but don’t have a code.
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Post by steve10086 on Sept 5, 2021 12:03:27 GMT
This is why I’m going - looks amazing! For those wondering why people would pay to see “holograms” (or whatever it is)… I’m going because I’m expecting this to be a stunning visual experience on a massive scale!
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Post by steve10086 on Sept 5, 2021 12:17:51 GMT
First night presale tickets all gone. If the rumours are true and all four ABBA members are planning to attend in person to watch their Abbatars then this was the night to go for. I’m always a day or two out with ABBA: 6 April 1974 - win Eurovision (I was born 2 days earlier) 6 April 1999 - Mamma Mia! opens (I went the day after) 27 May 2022 - Voyage opens (I’m going 2 days later) Never quite managed to get the right day
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Post by interval99 on Sept 5, 2021 12:53:30 GMT
Thought I’d registered for presale but don’t have a code. Ticketmaster have a presale from tomorrow you can register for before full booking goes ahead on the 7th
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Post by talkingheads on Sept 5, 2021 14:10:35 GMT
General Admission tickets are now onsale, I got two at £64 each for a Saturday in July. Expensive but far less than the hotel packages and much better than a seat at the side!
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Post by partytentdown on Sept 5, 2021 14:28:09 GMT
Got two general admission tickets in June for £75 ish each (not sure why poster above got them cheaper but congrats!). Expensive but I'm a fan so it's a treat. Took less than 5mins all in all, the first couple of hours of these things are always a crazy rush with technical issues but it always calms down a bit later, and considering this is a long run there will surely be enough tickets to go round.
Slightly cheeky offering 'souvenir paper tickets' for another £3 each, on top of the service fees etc. Once upon a time the actual ticket would be the souvenir!
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Post by talkingheads on Sept 5, 2021 15:28:32 GMT
Got two general admission tickets in June for £75 ish each (not sure why poster above got them cheaper but congrats!). Expensive but I'm a fan so it's a treat. Took less than 5mins all in all, the first couple of hours of these things are always a crazy rush with technical issues but it always calms down a bit later, and considering this is a long run there will surely be enough tickets to go round. Slightly cheeky offering 'souvenir paper tickets' for another £3 each, on top of the service fees etc. Once upon a time the actual ticket would be the souvenir! The £64 was the price it said before I assume the fees were added, it probably was closer to £75.
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Post by alece10 on Sept 5, 2021 16:57:41 GMT
Did everyone buy the CD as well? I didnt and now I'm a bit worried they might find me out but it did let me do the booking without buying it.
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Post by timothyd on Sept 5, 2021 17:03:24 GMT
Don't worry. As far as I know album presale ticket codes weren't personal or attached to a mailaddress. I bought the album but my Ticketmaster account has a different mail address and name then the one I bought the album with.
If you managed to buy tickets and they are in your Ticketmaster account they are yours and nobody will take them back. :-)
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Post by mkb on Sept 5, 2021 18:26:12 GMT
Got two general admission tickets in June for £75 ish each (not sure why poster above got them cheaper but congrats!). Expensive but I'm a fan so it's a treat. Took less than 5mins all in all, the first couple of hours of these things are always a crazy rush with technical issues but it always calms down a bit later, and considering this is a long run there will surely be enough tickets to go round. Slightly cheeky offering 'souvenir paper tickets' for another £3 each, on top of the service fees etc. Once upon a time the actual ticket would be the souvenir! The £64 was the price it said before I assume the fees were added, it probably was closer to £75. My GA tickets were broken down as £69.00 face value + £6.95 service charge = £75.95. There is then a £2.50 per booking fee. Thus, if you're booking one GA ticket, Ticketmaster take 12% of the pre-VAT cost, and everyone else shares the remaining 88%. Who knew that the running of an existing computerised booking system, with pretty much no usable customer service, could consume so much of the overall production budget? (Of course, it doesn't: it's just a money grab.) In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if Ticketmaster take more than 12% with some VAT avoidance going on with elements of their charges.
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Post by FrontroverPaul on Sept 6, 2021 9:55:47 GMT
Presale now. No opportunity to choose specific seat or block and I'm unimpressed with what I'm being offered for £97 so leaving it for now.
Show is running 8 times a week, matinees 15.00, evenings 19.45. 100 minutes with no interval. The matinees are all on Saturday and Saturday apart from a couple of weekday ones early in the run. Weekend prices significantly higher than weekdays.
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Post by timothyd on Sept 6, 2021 11:38:08 GMT
It is possible to choose your seat from the seat map again.
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Post by fiyero on Sept 6, 2021 12:23:58 GMT
It is possible to choose your seat from the seat map again. I hated that this wasn’t available when I booked but if I waited it looks like I wouldn’t have got my bottom price seat. Not a super fan of Abba but intrigued enough for a day at Olympic park, matinee of ABBA then time for a proper evening show after.
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Post by mkb on Sept 6, 2021 16:57:59 GMT
Prices for standing tickets appear to be:
£53.95 + £2.50 per transaction - Mondays & Thursdays at 19:45 £64.95 + £2.50 per transaction - Sundays at 15:00 & 19:45 £75.95 + £2.50 per transaction - Fridays at 19:45, Saturdays at 15:00 & 19:45
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Post by FrontroverPaul on Sept 7, 2021 13:44:01 GMT
Just grabbed a £49.50 single seat I'm happy with for the first Monday performance. A lot of early dates almost sold out with mostly VIP/Package seats left and resale tickets already appearing.
Definitely worth knowing that the choose your seat option is sometimes disabled when a sale or presale opens, but goes live once the initial rush clears. Similar system at the Royal Albert Hall for some of their one-off and short-run concerts.
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Post by interval99 on Sept 7, 2021 16:49:12 GMT
Booking extended to October 4th. A month add on which is shorter than I expected for the first extension as can imagine it would market well as the Christmas party event for 2022.
The dynamic pricing program working overtime it seems, some big savings if you can go on the week days.
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Post by max on Sept 7, 2021 20:22:19 GMT
Lord, the ticket prices! I'm trying to think who I know who uses a wheelchair who'd like to go, as the provision of wheelchair spaces is excellent, as are the prices of those £30 tickets for user and companion.... Maybe this show will strike a blow for disability access in theatre, as a purely mercenary by-product...
Otherwise...those side bank £31 tickets - will they be any good?? This is essentially still the old 'peppers ghost' Victorian illusion isn't it? I think the avatar aspect, with pictures of all those multi motion capture cameras has reflected a gloss onto the illusion part, making it seem more revolutionary than it is. Am I wrong in thinking the illusion can't work so well from a side view? It's projected onto an angled screen, but if you sit round the side you're not going to see further round the bodies of the avatars. They aren't 3D/holograms.
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Post by theatreian on Sept 7, 2021 21:47:26 GMT
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Post by mkb on Sept 7, 2021 22:15:43 GMT
That article says nothing about how the Abba members will be recreated other than emphatically denying that they will be holograms. So, yes, I expect Peppers' ghosts at times and simple projections at others. The side views are not going to be good I fear.
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Post by max on Sept 7, 2021 22:21:51 GMT
Interesting article. It says that the Whitney Houston tour was a hologram, but they're not going for that. As the 'hologram' of Houston was projected by laser onto a surface, that's not quite what I think of as a hologram, I guess there are some aspects of 3D they can manage, but recordings look bad.
As they motion captured ABBA, wouldn't it be more exciting to don a VR headset and walk around the band as they play? Having done the capture perhaps this won't be too far behind.
There will never be true 3D holograms, unless they find how to project images onto...smoke/haze. VR headsets has more scope.
The musical 'The Grinning Man' was captured for future VR headsets, for instance.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2021 0:39:03 GMT
The screens used in The Mandolorian were AMAZING!! you would never have known they filmed the majority of it in a studio.
I dont get why, if Abba can do 5 weeks of motion capture, why they couldnt do a few live concerts in person.
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Post by timothyd on Sept 8, 2021 6:14:55 GMT
That article says nothing about how the Abba members will be recreated other than emphatically denying that they will be holograms. So, yes, I expect Peppers' ghosts at times and simple projections at others. The side views are not going to be good I fear. The Abba Voyage site says Auditorium Seating Choose from a wide variety of seats at a range of different prices depending on where you’d like to sit. Pricing is based on the location of the seats, but every seat is a good one. And customer support said that there are no seats with restricted view. It wont be the best seats in the house but it's probably not going to be that bad. Based on that NME article I'm even more looking forward to the show! Sounds absolutely great.
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Post by max on Sept 8, 2021 8:09:36 GMT
The screens used in The Mandolorian were AMAZING!! you would never have known they filmed the majority of it in a studio. I dont get why, if Abba can do 5 weeks of motion capture, why they couldnt do a few live concerts in person. I think they'd sound very vocally tired after a few numbers - based on the vocals on the newly released balled after all its studio production. Does sound like they've recorded new vocals for the avatar show - perhaps to mix with the original to get some live spontaneity into it. Also the crowd will be adding to the sound, not sitting quietly intently listening, so a rougher sound would be appropriate. The occasional 'c'mon' to the crowd, invite to join in a chorus, and all that stuff.
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Post by anthony40 on Sept 11, 2021 20:21:48 GMT
So, if I'm right, with the constant repeats of both the Mamma Mia! films on tele, Mamma Mia!- The Musical stage show, ABBA-The Party and now the Voyage Concert Experience. 2022 with a HUGE yer for ABBA in London!
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Post by theatreian on Oct 4, 2021 14:57:16 GMT
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Post by talkingheads on Oct 22, 2021 9:54:33 GMT
More dates for 2022 are going onsale from the 1st November. Just got an email with presale access.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2021 11:30:27 GMT
Abba could record a large majority of their back catalogue in this medium and then just send it out every year with a different setlist and they're laughing all the way to the bank. Not that Benny and Bjorn need it by now.
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