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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 13, 2021 19:44:37 GMT
I’m sure it’s not. The film did it that way and was perfect for it.
Jessie Buckley is not going to portray SB as a crap singer unless she’s looking to commit career suicide. Judi didn’t have a choice but this is a musical.
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Post by cavocado on Nov 13, 2021 20:06:53 GMT
Unlike most venues that will accept proof of double vaccination, entry to Cabaret will only be allowed on presentation of "NHS-Self Report Tool confirmation email and/or text message" following a lateral flow or PCR test. People attending Cabaret who do not already have a test kit and would normally have no reason to obtain one (e.g. no contact with an infected person or not visiting a care home, etc.) will now doubt be going to their nearest pharmacy to pick up a free NHS kit of 7 tests. The government have already spent over £3.2billion on test kits (https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/774805/response/1852394/attach/html/3/FOI1347531.pdf.html). The FT have in the past estimated the kits as costing between £5 and £30 each. Tickets at eye watering prices seem to be selling well for this show so a good profit stands to be made for the producers in time. It would be reasonable to conclude that many thousands of extra test kits will be supplied to audience members - all free of charge - by the NHS. I would be interested in peoples opinion on this. Would it be unreasonable in believing it would be an appropriate gesture for the producers to (once they are in profit) make a contribution to the NHS for the significant extra costs they are causing to be incurred? The reasons you give (contact with infected person, etc) are for getting free PCR tests. The NHS encourages everyone to do LFTs twice a week, that's why they are so freely available. So you could argue that theatres (or sports events etc) who ask for LFT results are encouraging more people to test and so helping reduce spread of the virus. Successful shows would probably also say they're helping to get the economy back up and running, attract tourists back, support nearby bars, restaurants, etc, as well as all the taxes that are paid as a result of all that.
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Post by lem on Nov 13, 2021 22:00:04 GMT
Has anyone considered what you are supposed to do if (like many older people, including my Mum), you don’t have internet access, email or a mobile phone? There ARE still people who are not connected 24/7 - how do they get proof of a negative test?
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Post by fiyerorocher on Nov 13, 2021 22:24:11 GMT
Has anyone considered what you are supposed to do if (like many older people, including my Mum), you don’t have internet access, email or a mobile phone? There ARE still people who are not connected 24/7 - how do they get proof of a negative test? Well if that don't have any internet access at all, I'd question how they managed to get tickets to the show in the first place (was the box office even open?). And I truly doubt the word 'many' can be accurately applied to the group of people without internet access OR email OR phone who want to go see Cabaret. Those without a smart phone can print out their confirmation email from the NHS before they go. Those very few without email or internet will have to find someone to help them. Presumably the person who bought them the ticket.
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Post by showoff on Nov 13, 2021 22:57:04 GMT
Has anyone considered what you are supposed to do if (like many older people, including my Mum), you don’t have internet access, email or a mobile phone? There ARE still people who are not connected 24/7 - how do they get proof of a negative test? Wouldn't it be exactly the same as paperless tickets, which a lot of theatres have been doing since COVID?
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Post by theatrefan77 on Nov 14, 2021 0:00:47 GMT
Well, I couldn't make it to the Dress Rehearsal today but my friend went instead of me. She just called me to say thank you and she won't stop raving about Eddie Redmayne.
According to her it's an absolutely wonderful production and deserves to be seen. She was in the front row and ended dancing on stage at some point. There's apparently quite a lot of interaction with the audience in Stalls and there's no place to hide. Her advice is to go for Dress Circle seats if not confortable with audience participation. To late for me though, already have a Stalls ticket!
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Post by interval99 on Nov 14, 2021 0:12:34 GMT
Well, I couldn't make it to the Dress Rehearsal today but my friend went instead of me. She just called me to say thank you and she won't stop raving about Eddie Redmayne. According to her it's an absolutely wonderful production and deserves to be seen. She was in the front row and ended dancing on stage at some point. There's apparently quite a lot of interaction with the audience in Stalls and there's no place to hide. Her advice is to go for Dress Circle seats if not confortable with audience participation. To late for me though, already have a Stalls ticket! So we go through hoops to pass their covid rules and then they want interaction , couldn't make it up. After paying these prices most will be coming to see a show not be part of it. If a person says no they should be left to watch.
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Post by Rory on Nov 14, 2021 7:38:01 GMT
Oh no! I hate audience participation!
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Post by shambles on Nov 14, 2021 7:39:39 GMT
Well, I couldn't make it to the Dress Rehearsal today but my friend went instead of me. She just called me to say thank you and she won't stop raving about Eddie Redmayne. According to her it's an absolutely wonderful production and deserves to be seen. She was in the front row and ended dancing on stage at some point. There's apparently quite a lot of interaction with the audience in Stalls and there's no place to hide. Her advice is to go for Dress Circle seats if not confortable with audience participation. To late for me though, already have a Stalls ticket! Oof. Was this from the "prologue", because I have a hard time figuring out why they would want to interrupt the flow of the piece otherwise?
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Post by hairspray57 on Nov 14, 2021 9:50:49 GMT
Eddie Redmayne told everyone on Graham Norton there is no audience participation.
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Post by andrew on Nov 14, 2021 10:02:05 GMT
Well, I couldn't make it to the Dress Rehearsal today but my friend went instead of me. She just called me to say thank you and she won't stop raving about Eddie Redmayne. According to her it's an absolutely wonderful production and deserves to be seen. She was in the front row and ended dancing on stage at some point. There's apparently quite a lot of interaction with the audience in Stalls and there's no place to hide. Her advice is to go for Dress Circle seats if not confortable with audience participation. To late for me though, already have a Stalls ticket! So we go through hoops to pass their covid rules and then they want interaction , couldn't make it up. After paying these prices most will be coming to see a show not be part of it. If a person says no they should be left to watch. It seems perfectly sensible if you're crafting a production where the actors wander through and participate with the audience to have both actors and audience confirm they don't have a potentially deadly infection. You seem to suggest it's in some way bizarre or insane, to my mind it's the opposite. I appreciate some people really do not like audience participation, I have sympathy when it's completely out of the blue, but if you bought seats that are tables in the 'club' and didn't expect some level of interaction with the cast then I think you could have predicted something might occur.
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Post by hairspray57 on Nov 14, 2021 10:15:07 GMT
So we go through hoops to pass their covid rules and then they want interaction , couldn't make it up. After paying these prices most will be coming to see a show not be part of it. If a person says no they should be left to watch. It seems perfectly sensible if you're crafting a production where the actors wander through and participate with the audience to have both actors and audience confirm they don't have a potentially deadly infection. You seem to suggest it's in some way bizarre or insane, to my mind it's the opposite. I appreciate some people really do not like audience participation, I have sympathy when it's completely out of the blue, but if you bought seats that are tables in the 'club' and didn't expect some level of interaction with the cast then I think you could have predicted something might occur. It’s probably yet another example of poor communication from this show if they have the leading man lying on national Tv.
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Post by interval99 on Nov 14, 2021 10:27:17 GMT
So we go through hoops to pass their covid rules and then they want interaction , couldn't make it up. After paying these prices most will be coming to see a show not be part of it. If a person says no they should be left to watch. It seems perfectly sensible if you're crafting a production where the actors wander through and participate with the audience to have both actors and audience confirm they don't have a potentially deadly infection. You seem to suggest it's in some way bizarre or insane, to my mind it's the opposite. I appreciate some people really do not like audience participation, I have sympathy when it's completely out of the blue, but if you bought seats that are tables in the 'club' and didn't expect some level of interaction with the cast then I think you could have predicted something might occur. You cannot confirm you don't have the virus and are not infectious. The email or text you get back from NHS result service states this clearly and as above comments in the thread it's a on trust result and there have been plenty of examples of infection in apparent checked conditions. Wherever you sit in the theatre under current health situation I would not expect any interaction other than aisle walk through by cast members whether they have tested or been in a sterilisation chamber. I am just on the stalls not the tables and I presume the actors will get some guidance on when a person really does mean no , but I would hope when we get further details it will be the prologue cast doing this as during the actual show set in 1930ths and you suddenly see people in current clothing on stage would be jarring to say the least
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 14, 2021 10:31:38 GMT
I wonder if that’s why ATG have introduced all of these extra measures for Cabaret when you can swan around any other of their venues around the country with just a covid pass. Actors not prepared to hob nob up close and personal with the public without the testing?
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Post by hairspray57 on Nov 14, 2021 10:37:40 GMT
I still expect people going to the first few shows to report seeing people being turned away at the front door or empty seats. We all know people don’t read emails and texts ag the level they should and there will be many people who will simply assume their vaccination status exempts them from testing and will not grasp that it doesn’t. I mean tons of people were turned away during the summer from international travel due to not filling in forms or getting the right testing.
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Post by FrontroverPaul on Nov 14, 2021 10:41:13 GMT
Sitting in the front row of the stalls for most shows I attend, I've occasionally been approached for some interaction. Only last night it happened to my partner at Thursford Christmas Spectacular.
If it's from the stage and someone just speaking to me I have no problem, reply and play along. On one occasion I got a huge laugh when asked my name. The leading man previously starred in a sitcom and I replied with the name of his nemesis from that show and " I haven't forgiven you". I was given a signed photo in the interval which I thought was a lovely gesture.
If approached in person I just shake my head and quietly say no thank you and they move on. No professional will ever force the issue.
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Post by alece10 on Nov 14, 2021 10:46:13 GMT
I'm sitting at one of the cabaret tables and if Eddie Redmayne doesn't sit on my lap I'm demanding my money back.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 14, 2021 10:47:37 GMT
I’ve heard from people on it that it’s absolutely Jessie Buckley’s show, and that Eddie R is completely unremarkable. I guess that character needs an audience to really come alive though, so he may have improved.
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Post by floorshow on Nov 14, 2021 11:05:15 GMT
I still expect people going to the first few shows to report seeing people being turned away at the front door or empty seats. We all know people don’t read emails and texts ag the level they should and there will be many people who will simply assume their vaccination status exempts them from testing and will not grasp that it doesn’t. I mean tons of people were turned away during the summer from international travel due to not filling in forms or getting the right testing. I've seen people turn up without tests and the venue have had LFTs ready to go so they could step into a quiet room, quickly test and rejoin queue. Was very civilized and painless.
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Post by poster J on Nov 14, 2021 11:31:36 GMT
I’ve heard from people on it that it’s absolutely Jessie Buckley’s show, and that Eddie R is completely unremarkable. I guess that character needs an audience to really come alive though, so he may have improved. If it isn't absolutely Jessie Buckley's show I will be demanding my money back! The amount of complaining in this thread is hilarious. Anyone who doesn't read the multiple warnings about testing requirements for this show only has themselves to blame. And audience participation can't be forced on anyone, but the different nature of this production was blindingly obvious from the start so I am surprised anyone is shocked. If anyone who bought a seat at the front doesn't want audience participation I am more than happy to swap their tickets for my back of the dress circle ones where they can sit removed from the experience in peace. All sounds like fun to me!
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Post by Mark on Nov 14, 2021 11:40:20 GMT
If anyone who bought a seat at the front doesn't want audience participation I am more than happy to swap their tickets for my back of the dress circle ones where they can sit removed from the experience in peace. All sounds like fun to me! Likewise if anyone really wants to be devoid of a chance of audience participation, I can switch with the back row of the upper circle!
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Post by showoff on Nov 14, 2021 11:55:09 GMT
Honestly, I splurged on a table to be part of the show and thought it would include them being all around us.
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Post by showoff on Nov 14, 2021 11:57:07 GMT
Hairspray, you have so many complaints about this show, probably best to admit it's not something for you and move on.
If you don't like so many aspects, you don't need to put yourself through such hell as to go to the show. It's not tailored to your wishes and desires, but their own, you could always put on a show that doesn't require testing and has no involvement with the audience. You can do whatever you want, as can they.
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Post by showoff on Nov 14, 2021 12:07:46 GMT
Well, I couldn't make it to the Dress Rehearsal today but my friend went instead of me. She just called me to say thank you and she won't stop raving about Eddie Redmayne. According to her it's an absolutely wonderful production and deserves to be seen. She was in the front row and ended dancing on stage at some point. There's apparently quite a lot of interaction with the audience in Stalls and there's no place to hide. Her advice is to go for Dress Circle seats if not confortable with audience participation. To late for me though, already have a Stalls ticket! So we go through hoops to pass their covid rules and then they want interaction , couldn't make it up. After paying these prices most will be coming to see a show not be part of it. If a person says no they should be left to watch. I would presume that's exactly WHY they want such strict COVID rules, BECAUSE of this.
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Post by saral on Nov 14, 2021 12:25:46 GMT
So we go through hoops to pass their covid rules and then they want interaction , couldn't make it up. After paying these prices most will be coming to see a show not be part of it. If a person says no they should be left to watch. I would presume that's exactly WHY they want such strict COVID rules, BECAUSE of this. But they aren't strict with a) you can fake them and b) lft's aren't 100% right anyway
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Post by theatrefan77 on Nov 14, 2021 12:42:34 GMT
I’ve heard from people on it that it’s absolutely Jessie Buckley’s show, and that Eddie R is completely unremarkable. I guess that character needs an audience to really come alive though, so he may have improved. My friend thought that Buckley was very good but Redmayne is the one who steals the show. Different opinions I guess. Back to audience participation there’s quite a bit just before the show starts. You don’t have to participate but everybody did as this was a dress rehearsal for family and friends.. There are phones on the tables and people get called and asked to do something silly. Once the show begins the interaction is only cast members passing by and maybe making eye contact. Then some people will be ask to dance on stage at the beginning of Act 2. People can of course refuse, but nobody did yesterday. It doesn’t sound too bad. Looking forward to see it
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Post by shambles on Nov 14, 2021 12:57:00 GMT
I’ve heard from people on it that it’s absolutely Jessie Buckley’s show, and that Eddie R is completely unremarkable. I guess that character needs an audience to really come alive though, so he may have improved. My friend thought that Buckley was very good but Redmayne is the one who steals the show. Different opinions I guess. Back to audience participation there’s quite a bit just before the show starts. You don’t have to participate but everybody did as this was a dress rehearsal for family and friends.. There are phones on the tables and people get called and asked to do something silly. Once the show begins the interaction is only cast members passing by and maybe making eye contact. Then some people will be ask to dance on stage at the beginning of Act 2. People can of course refuse, but nobody did yesterday. It doesn’t sound too bad. Looking forward to see it Thank your for your response. That's what I was expecting from the prologue, and think it goes well with their concept of creating a club. Just didn't want too much middle-of-the-show audience thingy's.
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Post by rosscoe on Nov 15, 2021 6:55:05 GMT
Tonight’s the night. Can’t wait
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 15, 2021 8:46:26 GMT
Let’s hope their checking peoples negative tests etc is rigorous, or this will be shut down with COVID cases faster than you can say Audience Participation.
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Post by shambles on Nov 15, 2021 9:12:20 GMT
Tonight’s the night. Can’t wait Let us know how it is!
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