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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 22, 2020 15:19:43 GMT
Looks beautiful but as with the last Branagh effort, rather dreary. I was looking forward to French and Saunders hamming it up as Mrs Van Shuyler and Bowers but seems like they’re playing it as straight as Dawn French’s never changing hair do. Possibly wise given that following Davis and Smith would be nigh on impossible. But what’s the point of having all of the glamour and star names if there’s no fabulous campery? I think I’ll give it a miss and stick with the beloved 1978 version.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 22, 2020 18:43:52 GMT
I simply cannot abide Russell Brand. He is a stain on our entertainment industry.
I will not watch anything with him. And I don't really feel I am missing out on this. Branagh is not a good Poirot. The first of his Poirot films was over-designed and over-directed.
After the mess that is Artemis Fowl, Branagh should keep away from directing for a long, long time
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Post by vdcni on Aug 22, 2020 18:50:29 GMT
On the positive side, Armie Hammer and Tom Bateman.
On the negative, no Angela Lansbury (or Maggie Smith or Bette Davis) in one of the greatest (or at least campest) performances in cinematic history.
So the negatives win out!
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Post by Rory on Aug 22, 2020 19:50:45 GMT
I like Branagh, but his direction managed to suck every bit of campy fun out of Murder on the Orient Express. It was a soulless experience and Branagh was not a good Poirot. I fear the same with this and agree that Lansbury, Smith and Davis are simply irreplaceable, good though F & S are.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 22, 2020 19:53:22 GMT
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 22, 2020 19:55:49 GMT
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Post by cherokee on Aug 23, 2020 7:46:44 GMT
Branagh's Orient Express was awful and he was an awful Poirot. He's a mediocre actor and a terrible director. The fact that he's managed to con so many people into thinking he's Olivier's successor is a mystery to me. So I can't say I have high hopes for this!!
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Post by hulmeman on Aug 23, 2020 12:13:54 GMT
I really do have a problem with Kenneth Brannagh. In my humble opinion he is all style over substance. His last outing as Poirot was just plain bad. One only has to look at the exagerated moustache to realise he was more concerned with putting distance between his Poirot and that of either David Suchet or Albert Finney. Some movies should just be left alone and this is one of them, because even though Peter Ustinov was over the top as Poirot in the 1978 version, all the other ingredients as described above, more than make up!
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Post by talkingheads on Aug 23, 2020 12:40:37 GMT
I really do have a problem with Kenneth Brannagh. In my humble opinion he is all style over substance. His last outing as Poirot was just plain bad. One only has to look at the exagerated moustache to realise he was more concerned with putting distance between his Poirot and that of either David Suchet or Albert Finney. Some movies should just be left alone and this is one of them, because even though Peter Ustinov was over the top as Poirot in the 1978 version, all the other ingredients as described above, more than make up! I have to stand up for Branagh a bit. Peter's Friends is a lovely film with an outstanding cast, and if you ever get a chance to see the DVD recording of Look Back In Anger, Branagh and Emma Thompson are wonderful. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 23, 2020 12:44:18 GMT
Early Branagh is fine - his Much Ado was to be admired (apart from 3 key casting errors)
Peter's Friends was lovely
But his recent work has been overblown
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Post by peggs on Aug 23, 2020 12:48:16 GMT
I spent nearly the whole trailer wondering who was doing the voiceover before I realised it was Branagh and was annoyed by the voice, oh and the fact that apparently this case changed the shape of his soul! I'm not very good generally with book to film adaptations as I get cross with gaping plot changes. If the film works on it's own merit I can enjoy it but if it's iffy and has lots of changes I'm a bit ruthless.
And yes seeing Russel Brand made me go urg.
The Smith clip is sublime.
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Post by peggs on Aug 23, 2020 12:51:45 GMT
Early Branagh is fine - his Much Ado was to be admired (apart from 3 key casting errors) Peter's Friends was lovely But his recent work has been overblown Which 3 are you thinking of? Haven't seen that in an age but did rather enjoy, wondering if we're thinking of same people. I do rather like Branagh in general and would opt to see his stuff but just occasional I want to hide under the sofa at it. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 23, 2020 13:03:47 GMT
Early Branagh is fine - his Much Ado was to be admired (apart from 3 key casting errors) Peter's Friends was lovely But his recent work has been overblown Which 3 are you thinking of? Haven't seen that in an age but did rather enjoy, wondering if we're thinking of same people. I do rather like Branagh in general and would opt to see his stuff but just occasional I want to hide under the sofa at it. Reeves, Keaton and Elton the first can't do acting and the other two were in a completely different film (and completely unfunny) |
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Post by anthony40 on Aug 23, 2020 13:56:31 GMT
I heard or read somewhere that apparently Ms Christie's husband was some sort of archeologist and she was actually on location in Egypt when she wrote this book and it was the one story where he guessed who the murderer was. She was so upset that, that although she retained the same characters, she changed the ending.
Wonder what she would think of this remake.
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Post by lynette on Aug 23, 2020 14:44:50 GMT
Branagh's Orient Express was awful and he was an awful Poirot. He's a mediocre actor and a terrible director. The fact that he's managed to con so many people into thinking he's Olivier's successor is a mystery to me. So I can't say I have high hopes for this!! I watched his Hamlet film just recently and something about his performance reminded me of Olivier, but not in a good way. It was something about the way he pronounced his consonants, a little too precisely. Maybe he was doing it deliberately for the Hamletesqueness of his performance but it struck me. |
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Post by lynette on Aug 23, 2020 14:48:47 GMT
PS, all I can say about this movie is ‘again already? ‘ This must be the only Agatha story that everyone knows the end of. Surely?
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Post by vdcni on Aug 23, 2020 16:31:04 GMT
I heard or read somewhere that apparently Ms Christie's husband was some sort of archeologist and she was actually on location in Egypt when she wrote this book and it was the one story where he guessed who the murderer was. She was so upset that, that although she retained the same characters, she changed the ending. Wonder what she would think of this remake. Christie was in general not fond of Film or TV adaptations of her books. It's why so few were made before her death. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 23, 2020 17:31:21 GMT
the novel did have a stage adaptation - Murder on the Nile. Written by Christie herself, it did away with Poirot - as often with her stage plays!
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Post by peggs on Aug 23, 2020 18:44:06 GMT
Which 3 are you thinking of? Haven't seen that in an age but did rather enjoy, wondering if we're thinking of same people. I do rather like Branagh in general and would opt to see his stuff but just occasional I want to hide under the sofa at it. Reeves, Keaton and Elton the first can't do acting and the other two were in a completely different film (and completely unfunny) snap |
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Post by peggs on Aug 23, 2020 18:45:49 GMT
the novel did have a stage adaptation - Murder on the Nile. Written by Christie herself, it did away with Poirot - as often with her stage plays! There's a whole section of her novels which don't feature Poirot or Miss Marple but when made generally have them added in as presumably they're the hook to get people watching. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 23, 2020 20:02:00 GMT
PS, all I can say about this movie is ‘again already? ‘ This must be the only Agatha story that everyone knows the end of. Surely? It’s 40 years since the last film lynette. So no, I don’t think people do! And it’s a very ingenious denouement. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 23, 2020 20:03:52 GMT
the novel did have a stage adaptation - Murder on the Nile. Written by Christie herself, it did away with Poirot - as often with her stage plays! There's a whole section of her novels which don't feature Poirot or Miss Marple but when made generally have them added in as presumably they're the hook to get people watching. ITV did that do much and it was painful But Christie adapted Poirot out of Death on the Nile for Murder on the Nile replacing him with a Canon. Removing one of her biggest successes explains why the play was not a hit |
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Post by smallperson on Aug 23, 2020 20:59:00 GMT
PS, all I can say about this movie is ‘again already? ‘ This must be the only Agatha story that everyone knows the end of. Surely? It’s 40 years since the last film lynette . So no, I don’t think people do! And it’s a very ingenious denouement. 2004 |
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Post by dippy on Aug 23, 2020 21:04:23 GMT
PS, all I can say about this movie is ‘again already? ‘ This must be the only Agatha story that everyone knows the end of. Surely? It’s 40 years since the last film lynette. So no, I don’t think people do! And it’s a very ingenious denouement. I don't! I have seen some Poirot episodes/films when I was younger but I can't remember if I've seen this and if I have I definitely don't remember the end. |
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Post by crowblack on Aug 23, 2020 21:41:15 GMT
It’s 40 years since the last film lynette. So no, I don’t think people do! It's constantly on TV though - it must get an airing at least twice a year as a weekend / Christmas / Easter matinee. |
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