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Post by jennapatchell on Jul 11, 2021 0:28:43 GMT
I enjoyed this. Was sat on stage, which was a treat and I'd highly recommend, despite the uncomfort of the seats.
It's not a typical Hamlet. But it's quite good, but don't expect to be completely drawn in. Without McKellen this would probably be a bust
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Post by alicechallice on Jul 17, 2021 14:41:45 GMT
Looking at the production shots in the Guardian, it looks like Steven Berkoff has been replaced with Frances Barber.
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Post by jennapatchell on Jul 17, 2021 15:16:27 GMT
Looking at the production shots in the Guardian, it looks like Steven Berkoff has been replaced with Frances Barber. He's no longer listed on the website too |
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Post by lynette on Jul 17, 2021 21:55:31 GMT
What part is she playing?
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Post by alicechallice on Jul 17, 2021 22:10:57 GMT
What part is she playing? Polonius |
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Post by lynette on Jul 18, 2021 12:39:10 GMT
What part is she playing? Polonius Excellent. That I would like to see. |
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Post by rosencrantz on Jul 18, 2021 12:41:58 GMT
Anyone know why Berkoff was taken off?
Illness?
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Post by Dr Tom on Jul 18, 2021 13:48:25 GMT
Anyone know why Berkoff was taken off? Illness? He didn't seem to be in the best of health when I saw this a few weeks ago. Walking slowly and he had a seat right behind the on-stage seats so he didn't have to go too far between scenes (he was quite careful to stay out of sight, but I was right at the edge of the on-stage seating). Now the pace could be acting, of course, but I think this is just one of the unfortunate consequences of aging. He did perform very well. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jul 18, 2021 14:06:29 GMT
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Post by Dr Tom on Jul 18, 2021 15:33:27 GMT
Interesting, thanks. I hadn’t realised this was still in previews! |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jul 18, 2021 19:55:20 GMT
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 19, 2021 3:29:51 GMT
Looking at the production shots in the Guardian, it looks like Steven Berkoff has been replaced with Frances Barber. There’s a sentence you don’t read every day |
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Post by Jan on Jul 19, 2021 6:02:21 GMT
Steven Berkoff ! How the mighty are fallen. I wonder if we'll hear from him afterwards about this curious production. Seems we may hear from him sooner than I thought. They must regret casting him. News that McKellen is distressed by all this reminds me of the fraught tour he did with his first King Lear. Frances Barber was one of his supporters in that problematic company. |
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Post by lynette on Jul 19, 2021 14:16:15 GMT
She’s having a right go at some twit on twitter who has tried to get her sacked. V entertaining if it weren’t also terrifying what ‘small’ people think they can do.
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Post by mrbluesky on Jul 19, 2021 15:32:42 GMT
Planning on catching this in the next few weeks - very intrigued to see what Frances Barber is like as Polonius! (I've long wanted to see her do some Shakespeare, and seeing McKellen will be a treat!)
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Post by Jan on Jul 19, 2021 15:56:46 GMT
Planning on catching this in the next few weeks - very intrigued to see what Frances Barber is like as Polonius! (I've long wanted to see her do some Shakespeare, and seeing McKellen will be a treat!) I was going to ask if you missed her as Julius Caesar at the Donmar but I see that was 2012. Time flies. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 19, 2021 16:55:44 GMT
This whole production sounds dreadful. Not surprised there are tensions on it.
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Post by mrbluesky on Jul 19, 2021 16:56:55 GMT
Planning on catching this in the next few weeks - very intrigued to see what Frances Barber is like as Polonius! (I've long wanted to see her do some Shakespeare, and seeing McKellen will be a treat!) I was going to ask if you missed her as Julius Caesar at the Donmar but I see that was 2012. Time flies. I so wish I’d seen her as Caesar - I bet she was brilliant! |
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Post by peggs on Jul 19, 2021 18:34:38 GMT
I was going to ask if you missed her as Julius Caesar at the Donmar but I see that was 2012. Time flies. I so wish I’d seen her as Caesar - I bet she was brilliant! It really worked in that production. I'm trying to imagine how she would approach Polonius and my intrigued, my first thought was that it's very different from anything I'd seen her play before though those parts weren't actually similar there was a strain of seductiveness, influence, authority that I don't tend to associate with Polonius. That's a very poor explanation for a thought I can't really verbalise as it suggests she plays everything the same and she's a much better actor than that. |
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Post by partytentdown on Jul 19, 2021 20:25:52 GMT
Her behaviour today on Twitter is appalling. She's openly threatening some person who posted about her (very open) dislike of trans women. She's basically telling him she has his address, how much he'll regret 'grassing' on her, tweeting photos of him at work and naming his employer etc. Properly psycho behaviour.
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Post by mjh on Jul 19, 2021 20:34:48 GMT
She’s having a right go at some twit on twitter who has tried to get her sacked. V entertaining if it weren’t also terrifying what ‘small’ people think they can do. I'd say her instigating a huge twitter pile and being their threatening herself towards a single user who is far worse than said user raising concerns about Frances' dubious past comments. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 23:06:17 GMT
While I do think Barber went too far in her response last night, that weaselly bloke tried to get her into trouble with her employers over a belief that was recently declared perfectly valid, and protected, in a tribunal. This happens all too often these days.
Women are sick and tired of being hounded for speaking up in defence of their rights; of receiving death threats and losing our livelihoods. I guess now we’re finally getting angry. Maybe it’s about time the bully boys who try to shut down women’s voices learn that not every woman they target will issue a grovelling apology and shut up.
So if this guy is now worried people pointed out to his employer he’s a bit of an online bully, I find it hard to care too much. (Come on, he’ll be fine anyway, he works for virtue-signalling Barclays!)
Probably all that’s needed in this case is to tell the pair of them to grow up. (Though if Barber chose to sue for defamation, it would certainly make an interesting case.)
Anyhoo, with luck she gets to stay on and people get to see her Polonius...and the silly man who targeted her also stays on in his job and learns his lesson!
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Post by Jan on Jul 20, 2021 6:59:56 GMT
She’s having a right go at some twit on twitter who has tried to get her sacked. V entertaining if it weren’t also terrifying what ‘small’ people think they can do. I'd say her instigating a huge twitter pile and being their threatening herself towards a single user who is far worse than said user raising concerns about Frances' dubious past comments. If someone contacted my employer and asked why they were employing a "known racist" (like he did) I'd say it had gone a bit further than "raising concerns". That's an accusation of a crime. An employer would have to address it in some way, especially in the entertainment industry. If it were true she'd never work again, so he is attempting to directly attack her livelihood. That fact it was a "single user" is irrelevant. Her respone, though intemperate in my view, is still not "far worse" than that. |
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Post by mjh on Jul 20, 2021 8:52:11 GMT
I'd say her instigating a huge twitter pile and being their threatening herself towards a single user who is far worse than said user raising concerns about Frances' dubious past comments. If someone contacted my employer and asked why they were employing a "known racist" (like he did) I'd say it had gone a bit further than "raising concerns". That's an accusation of a crime. An employer would have to address it in some way, especially in the entertainment industry. If it were true she'd never work again, so he is attempting to directly attack her livelihood. That fact it was a "single user" is irrelevant. Her respone, though intemperate in my view, is still not "far worse" than that. I'd also say this is a bit more than "intemperate": But anyway, back to Hamlet. |
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