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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jan 21, 2022 17:33:05 GMT
I was mainly ok with the Covid pass, but looking at France ( with stringent Covid passes and masks) having a crazy amount of cases, and with vaccines not really stopping spread ( whilst still protecting people) i dont really the point in them anymore, other than to coerce people to get themseleves vaccinated. If it doesnt stop the spread, then theres no point to them I expect smaller theatres to keep masks. The bigger ones will make it a recommendation rather than a requirement Are you revising history? |
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jan 24, 2022 3:37:16 GMT
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Post by zahidf on Jan 24, 2022 12:30:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2022 15:17:02 GMT
Guess who is back elbow bumping at a hospital. They are big and blonde and it's not Gemma Collins!
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Post by talkingheads on Jan 24, 2022 15:42:54 GMT
Some good news at least. Theatres and freelancers doing more to protect audiences and staff than the Government:
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Post by interval99 on Jan 24, 2022 16:19:19 GMT
Some good news at least. Theatres and freelancers doing more to protect audiences and staff than the Government: Total PR bluff we saw all the impact of theatres saying wear masks and show passes back last year and then not a single check or comment as you walked in and they crammed us into packed bar areas while waiting for the auditorium to open. LW theatres had the full warning on their site to do a lateral flow test and then did no check at all even for the pass. |
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Post by zahidf on Jan 24, 2022 18:17:45 GMT
Some good news at least. Theatres and freelancers doing more to protect audiences and staff than the Government: Things going well enough so that restrictions are being being removed is good news... Be interested in the audience agreement to this now its not a legal requirement |
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Post by sfsusan on Jan 24, 2022 19:24:39 GMT
then not a single check or comment as you walked in... While I agree that the crowded lobbies of some theaters were just stupid given the rules/guidelines, every single London theater I went to requested and inspected vaccination proof (and Cabaret definitely checked for negative test results). I still wish theaters offered COVID-aware performances for those people willing to pay more to have more distancing. |
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Post by interval99 on Jan 24, 2022 22:08:05 GMT
Atg sent out a questionnaire over the weekend on options for theatre and one question covered all options for entry from showing lateral flow result to just walk in so guess we will see what the people say if atg keep their current procedures.
Atg theatres are the only ones I have had to show the covid pass.
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Post by theatreian on Jan 24, 2022 22:16:33 GMT
Yes I had to show the covid pass last week when I saw Bat out of Hell at ATG Alex in Birmingham. I have had reminders from The Shaftsbury and Apollo Victora about showing it this weekend.
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Post by maggiem on Jan 25, 2022 14:08:30 GMT
I went to the Lowry in November 21 for "Dial M for Murder" and Blackpool Opera House for "Hairspray in December. No LFT text/emails asked for nor proof of vaccination either. I was very surprised. Still have my Covid vaccination pass letter, and I'm not getting rid, just in case!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2022 14:58:04 GMT
They were inspecting Covid passes at Phantom a few weeks ago, but I'd gone to the matinee of Heathers earlier that day and all they inspected was my ticket. I remember reading somewhere from The Other Palace that because it's a smaller seated venue, Covid passes weren't required, but masks were.
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Post by zahidf on Jan 28, 2022 16:23:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2022 17:23:24 GMT
Surely it would be just safer if theatres had a no mask/no exemptions = no entry policy on tickets sold going forward.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2022 9:31:34 GMT
Nearly everybody in Sainsbury's and Waitrose this morning had a mask on, though one had it below his nose because apparently some people leave their brains in neutral.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Jan 29, 2022 14:22:27 GMT
On the extremely busy train to Bristol this morning didn’t see anyone not wearing a mask.
Not what I was expecting, people seem to be naturally continuing with mask wearing or in the noise of all the partying the message that masks are no longer mandatory only advisory hasn’t registered.
Sitting in the Bristol Old Vic and masks seem to be being worn by everyone.
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Post by longinthetooth on Jan 29, 2022 15:28:15 GMT
Earlier this month my Covid pass was checked at both the Palladium and the Sondheim. A bit strange at the Sondheim - they checked the pass, then handed me a piece of paper with a tick on it, which I then had to hand in to another member of staff further along the line!
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Post by basi1faw1ty on Jan 30, 2022 20:41:14 GMT
Very much 50/50 for customers masking up inside my local ASDA yesterday. Nearly all the staff were maskless.
I'm not judging, I'm just pointing it out.
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Post by theatreian on Jan 30, 2022 23:34:30 GMT
Mixed mask wearing this weekend in London.Not been since Feb 2020. &Juliet very good, Wicked poor and Taboo also poor.Covid passes checked at all three shows.Mostly good on tubes and buses.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2022 15:37:10 GMT
Now backtracking on mandatory vaccinations for NHS frontline staff. What about those in the care sector who lost their jobs over it.
I am pro vaccine and it does annoy me people who won't have it and then take up NHS resources due to the consequences of it. But then people do have the right of choice and I vary been wanted rules enforced and then broken.
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Post by christya on Feb 2, 2022 13:40:24 GMT
I'm annoyed about them backtracking on this. If I or my family have to go into hospital, I don't want an unvaccinated nurse anywhere near us. I'm sick of hearing about choice - what about the choice of already sick patients to not be exposed to someone who didn't bother with the vaccine? Will we be able to refuse to see these people, or are we supposed to just cross our fingers?
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Post by Mark on Feb 2, 2022 14:18:37 GMT
I'm annoyed about them backtracking on this. If I or my family have to go into hospital, I don't want an unvaccinated nurse anywhere near us. I'm sick of hearing about choice - what about the choice of already sick patients to not be exposed to someone who didn't bother with the vaccine? Will we be able to refuse to see these people, or are we supposed to just cross our fingers? I guess the question is - would you rather have an unvaccinated nurse or no nurse at all. Because that is the situation you could be in. |
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Post by southstreet on Feb 2, 2022 14:23:33 GMT
Hi Chrysta, genuine question, so this is not me being confrontational, I am just wondering why you wouldn't want to be treated by a nurse who isn't vaccinated? Is it principle or is it because you are worried about getting infected?
I am totally pro-vaccine, think everyone should get themselves vaccinated and back in the OG and Alpha days of Covid, I was already slightly wary of mandating vaccines for NHS and Care staff, because I believe people should have a choice, but in that case I was willing to see the greater good for patients safety. But since Delta and especially Omicron, I don't think the mandate is justified, as the vaccination does fairly little to stop infection now and is mainly something that stops the illness becoming severe if you are infected.
I am triple-vaxxed and currently on day 9 of my Covid infection (which funnily enough, I caught at the theatre) and I have several friends who are also boosted and also currently have Covid. So I personally don't think the vaccination status of a nurse matters, what matters is if they are testing regularly and are Covid free when they are treating patients.
There is obviously the flip side of the likelihood of unvaccinated nurses developing more severe symptoms and potentially being a burden on the NHS if they need treatment, but that is the same for any unvaccinated person, regardless of their profession. So I would like everyone to get vaccinated, but personally, don't feel comfortable forcing people to.
As I said, this isn't me trying to be confrontational, I am just interested in other points of view. :-)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2022 14:30:29 GMT
Personally I wouldn't want to be treated by unvaccinated medical personnel because I think they are huge hypocrites.
They want people to be careful to reduce the spread of Covid so that the healthcare system can try to get back to some sort of normality, yet they won't take a simple action to be part of that themselves. I see it as a form of dereliction from their codes of ethics that are effectively based on the hippocratic oath.
For example, the modern version of the oath includes the following:
"I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk"
"I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required"
"I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure."
Medical personnel who refuse the vaccine without a valid medical exemption are in my view acting against all of the above. They can have freedom of choice, but that goes hand in hand with facing the consequences of their choice, which they don't seem to want to do.
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Post by southstreet on Feb 2, 2022 14:49:16 GMT
Fair enough, I get that. Though these days the vaccine no longer prevents disease or has much impact on the spread, it just decreases the potential severity, so not sure how much the last two points still fit with it.
I appreciate your reasoning though, I personally would also prefer to be treated by a nurse whose morals I agree with (non-racist, non-homophobic, non-Tory, etc) but I don't think it's something I have much of a choice over. In a lot of cases I choose to no longer buy products or services from people that I don't agree with on certain fundamental levels. But when it comes to healthcare that is difficult as we don't get to choose our nurses. As long as I don't get subjected to anti-vax or racist rhetoric, etc by nurses and they test and are safe and trained to treat me, then that is what I'll have to take I guess.
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