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Post by lichtie on Dec 18, 2021 18:13:34 GMT
And she got the boot because it turned out she took the family for the weekend and was seen with all of them plus dog strolling along the beach... The family she presumably lives with and a Scottish beach which must be one of the most unpopulated windswept bleak places on earth? No, I don't think that's a reason to dispense with her expertise during a pandemic and again, it's a private story that didn't 'have' to be 'outed' into the public realm. I once heard a journalist say many - most - want a trophy ministerial head in their 'achievements' as though journalism was the modern version of sticking a shot lion's head on the billiard room wall. It's a sport to them. But at the time there was a 5km "rule" in Scotland except for urgent needs (which checking a house would have scraped through - that was the rationale for why she initially escaped with rapped knuckles). Taking your entire family for a walk well beyond that limit was taking the piss. |
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Post by crowblack on Dec 18, 2021 19:13:23 GMT
It does, but there's a time and a place to deal with that and it's not in the middle of a pandemic with a new variant that's doubling every couple of days. No. It is precisely BECAUSE we are in the middle of a pandemic that it must be addressed immediately if any semblance of public trust is to be restored, although they've gone way past the point where that could have been done by continually lying. It was a party a year ago, and a rather rubbishy looking one at that! And it hasn't made me 'lose my trust' in this govt because i had no trust in Tories anyway (and not much for the other parties either now tbh). I would love to see a sensible and adult Labour govt in power but right now, at this point in time, I want whoever is running the country to be doing it with no distractions. |
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Post by talkingheads on Dec 18, 2021 22:55:29 GMT
I've cancelled every show I had booked over the next three weeks. These case numbers are terrifying. I've donated the ticket cost to the venues where I can, but I cannot risk being in huge crowds with those numbers.
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Post by Dawnstar on Dec 19, 2021 9:14:22 GMT
Crack of dawn (7.30am) booster jab done at my local hospital. I'm very relieved to get done & to have had Pfizer (I know they're equally good but I have emetophobia & Moderna comes with a greater chance of being sick among the side effects).
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Post by talkingheads on Dec 19, 2021 13:07:56 GMT
I wouldn't blame a lot of theatre professionals for quitting the industry all together. There was hope in theatre coming back. Now, not so much. The lack of any Government support or even comment is steggering. Millions of people's income is just gone.
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Post by QueerTheatre on Dec 19, 2021 13:10:44 GMT
what do we think the chances are of Covid discounts reading up to christmas? i know most shows are closer now, but i have a free night next week and was wondering if this could be a way around the extortionate moulin rouge pricing!
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Post by crowblack on Dec 19, 2021 13:17:10 GMT
Good to hear - I had a Pfizer booster after two AZ earlier in the year and found the side effects milder, though did have painful lymph nodes when I moved my jabbed arm between days 3 and 5 and I'm still feeling slightly stoned (those rave-era anti-vaxxers would probably enjoy it if they tried it!). We're postponing the family get-together Christmas but I've bought a lot of last-minute Christmas reductions on Ocado and will (try to) save them to have a Spring feast, hopefully.
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Post by lynette on Dec 19, 2021 13:23:46 GMT
Has, “how was your booster?’ REPLACED “ do you think this weather will last?’ IN OUR DAY TO DAY CONVERSATION?
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Post by Dawnstar on Dec 19, 2021 13:24:52 GMT
Good to hear - I had a Pfizer booster after two AZ earlier in the year and found the side effects milder, though did have painful lymph nodes when I moved my jabbed arm between days 3 and 5 and I'm still feeling slightly stoned How long is "still"?
I'm currently sitting here waiting for side effects to start. It took 8 hours after my first jab (AstraZeneca) & I'm now 6 hours after my booster jab. I'm hoping that if anything awful is going to turn up that it'll do so soon as the anxiety of anticipation is already giving me a bunch of symptoms!
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Post by crowblack on Dec 19, 2021 14:12:38 GMT
Good to hear - I had a Pfizer booster after two AZ earlier in the year and found the side effects milder, though did have painful lymph nodes when I moved my jabbed arm between days 3 and 5 and I'm still feeling slightly stoned How long is "still"?
I'm currently sitting here waiting for side effects to start. It took 8 hours after my first jab (AstraZeneca) & I'm now 6 hours after my booster jab. I'm hoping that if anything awful is going to turn up that it'll do so soon as the anxiety of anticipation is already giving me a bunch of symptoms!
I actually felt good for the first couple of days though I expect that was partly the relief of having it done, and I took a paracetamol whenever I felt a slight headache coming on. Everyone is different, obviously. I had my jab on Monday morning and developed the lymph node tenderness on Wednesday. It was like bruising, ok unless I raised my arm or nudged it. I've seen on Twitter people saying they had it with more noticable swelling but it went down again after a few days. Because the jab centre I went to was so hastily arranged - they were assembling it when I arrived - there were no advice / side effects to expect sheets given out, but if I feel a side effect I look on Twitter to see if anyone else has had it and how long it lasted, which I find reassuring. I had a bad time with the AZ though that was due to it being jabbed too high in my arm the first time. I was in pain for weeks but it was a 'SIRVA' injury, I think, rather than the contents of the jab. |
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Post by sph on Dec 19, 2021 14:37:07 GMT
I think an awful thing that's happening now is that even if a show is still open, people are cancelling or not buying tickets, so a show might be running, but it's not viable financially during what should be its peak season.
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Post by talkingheads on Dec 19, 2021 15:14:32 GMT
I think an awful thing that's happening now is that even if a show is still open, people are cancelling or not buying tickets, so a show might be running, but it's not viable financially during what should be its peak season. I've compromised where I can - I'm not going, but not cancelling my ticket so they still get my money. |
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Post by marob on Dec 19, 2021 15:28:23 GMT
I do have sympathy for people affected by the closures. But then I see performers posting maskless selfies on public transport while moaning about their show being closed and I think serves your right.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2021 15:43:35 GMT
Good to hear - I had a Pfizer booster after two AZ earlier in the year and found the side effects milder, though did have painful lymph nodes when I moved my jabbed arm between days 3 and 5 and I'm still feeling slightly stoned How long is "still"?
I'm currently sitting here waiting for side effects to start. It took 8 hours after my first jab (AstraZeneca) & I'm now 6 hours after my booster jab. I'm hoping that if anything awful is going to turn up that it'll do so soon as the anxiety of anticipation is already giving me a bunch of symptoms!
I had pretty much no symptoms at all after my first Pfizer, slightly sore arm and a bit tired but that was it. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 19, 2021 16:15:46 GMT
I do have sympathy for people affected by the closures. But then I see performers posting maskless selfies on public transport while moaning about their show being closed and I think serves your right. “Huge numbers” of them unvaccinated too, according to one of our insiders. theatreboard.co.uk/post/406780/thread |
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Post by sfsusan on Dec 19, 2021 17:03:37 GMT
“Huge numbers” of them unvaccinated too, according to one of our insiders. Yikes! There was a comment in that thread that healthy young people are more at risk from lightning strikes than the virus. That's as may be, but they forget the risk of infecting other people. A young person might risk going out onto a golf course in a thunderstorm, but they don't then carry that risk home to granny, their cancer-stricken neighbor or their unvaccinated younger brother. |
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Post by talkingheads on Dec 19, 2021 17:08:50 GMT
So if some kind of lockdown is planned after Christmas, is there any reason they can't warn us, or give us a date? This uncertainty means people can't plan, or shows are forced to stay open without the insurance of forced closure.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2021 17:17:18 GMT
There was a comment in that thread that healthy young people are more at risk from lightning strikes than the virus. That's as may be, but they forget the risk of infecting other people. Indeed. The reason this pandemic hasn't ended isn't the people who die; as far as the virus is concerned they are literally a dead end. It's the people who live and spread it who keep the pandemic going. The only way this will end is when either we get the reproduction rate of the disease down below 1 and keep it there, or we get a dominant strain that's innocuous enough that we no longer need to fight it. The only one of those that is in our hands is the first. |
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Post by londonpostie on Dec 19, 2021 17:25:39 GMT
Weekend reporting tends to be a bit wobbley except for jab numbers ... just shy of 1 million yesterday at 986K. Includes over 80K of 1st and 2nd jabsters. The total is a new record.
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Post by theatreian on Dec 19, 2021 17:26:36 GMT
The other issue is that at the moment so many people are getting it and having to isolate meaning some services are short staffed due to people being off work. This will cause real problems in the not too distant future for emergency services and health workers.
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Post by londonpostie on Dec 19, 2021 17:33:53 GMT
It's certanly a popular mainstream media narative. Still waiting for the Christmas-ravaging shortages caused by Brexit.
It's strange sometimes to think that maybe, just maaaybe, eveything is not a catastrophe and that the economy is working quite well , the vaccines are working, and generally things could be worse.
But enough of that nonsense, lets get back to the hysteria of social media and the bleed into mainstream.
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Post by Latecomer on Dec 19, 2021 18:12:23 GMT
Daughter’s boyfriend has Covid in London. So do all his friends round London and most of her friends who now live in London. They are all being responsible and not going home for Christmas (even those who are contacts and who could). Daughter is staying in Leeds rather than “bring possible covid home” as she knows we visit her Grandma in care home. I have been amazed during the last 2 years just how responsible, in general, the young have been….contrast with those annoying people in Asda who wear masks round their chins and moan about the young!
Case numbers reported probably low compared to reality of the situation as several youngsters just doing lateral flow tests, assume they have covid when positive and self isolating for 10 days (and letting friends know!). Oh and they queued for boosters but generally only just got them, as with the first wave, so a few days too late…..
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Post by jamie2c on Dec 19, 2021 18:28:36 GMT
Apparently the new version is more contagious (but much milder) and we are all going to get it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2021 18:30:47 GMT
It's certanly a popular mainstream media narative. [...] It's strange sometimes to think that maybe, just maaaybe, eveything is not a catastrophe And sometimes something isn't just a "media narrative" and maybe, just maaaybe, it genuinely is serious.
If you don't understand something you can't have your own opinion of it; all you can have is the opinion someone else has persuaded you to have. But if you do understand it you can have your own opinion and you don't need to let someone else tell you what to think. I've understood this stuff since I was at school. Not the specifics of this particular disease, obviously, but the general mathematical principles governing the spread of infectious diseases that applies to this coronavirus just as much as to every other infectious disease. It's not what I see in the media that concerns me. It's what I see in the data. And right now the data is saying that too few people have been vaccinated for the vaccine to do the job we need it to do. |
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Post by Dan213 on Dec 19, 2021 18:36:28 GMT
Apparently the new version is more contagious (but much milder) and we are all going to get it. there's no evidence supporting any reduction in severity at present |
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