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Post by Phantom of London on Nov 28, 2021 0:15:40 GMT
Iām going on holiday on Monday to Iceland, got flight booked, booked whilst it was cheap and they were offering a refund. However not going to book hotel or car hire until the very last moment.
I have ordered my LFT, but now seems I will have to upgrade to a PCR test and cannot go back to work until I have the the PCR results back.
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Post by zahidf on Nov 28, 2021 0:19:53 GMT
Deciding this new Covid is bullsh*t for mental health reasons. Putting it in the pay no mind space. Back to partying Without judging you I do fear people might end up dying because too many people have that type of attitude to this variant. Itās just too early to say how dangerous or not it will be. I'm triple jabbed as most people will be soon. Enough is enough. Let's crack on and deal with any extra deaths if we have to |
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Post by Jon on Nov 28, 2021 0:21:43 GMT
Planes, airports, pilots and flight attendants don't evaporate. There'll be some consolidation and some variation in prices for a while and there'll probably be a lasting small reduction in demand, but the industry went through this after 9/11 and survived. Agreed, it's a load of rubbish to even suggest people will never be allowed to go travelling again. It's like saying that people will never go out again. In regards to the new variant, the NHS are rolling out Lagevrio, the Merck oral treatment next month so we'll be able to see how effective it is in a non clinical setting. Paxlovid, the Pfizer treatment coming early next year and that's even better in terms of effective although I suspect that it'll be given to the most vulnerable and the elderly whereas Lagevrio probably will be used in the general population. |
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Post by Mark on Nov 28, 2021 0:21:53 GMT
Just back from a concert at the 02 arena. Probably around 12,000 unmasked people all in there dancing and having a great time. Nobody caresā¦ this is mass hysteria by media yet again.
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Post by zahidf on Nov 28, 2021 1:05:21 GMT
Good. Can go to a play without a muzzle
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2021 1:05:24 GMT
Iām going on holiday on Monday to Iceland, got flight booked, booked whilst it was cheap and they were offering a refund. However not going to book hotel or car hire until the very last moment. I have ordered my LFT, but now seems I will have to upgrade to a PCR test and cannot go back to work until I have the the PCR results back. Don't book car hire in Iceland at all, you would be completely daft. I was there just over a month ago and driving conditions were difficult even for locals who are used to it. At one point the winds were over 60mph and it was a bit scary even with a local driver. Read locals' travel advice and heed it, the weather conditions really are no joke (crosswinds especially). Take organised trips instead as they have vehicles and drivers who are able to cope with the weather. |
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Post by zahidf on Nov 28, 2021 1:15:59 GMT
If the govt wants us to comply with restrictions, it needs to show we're in some kind of emergency where disaster's certain or near-certain without them. If it can produce a compelling case that that is true, I shall comply. If not, I shall not. "Just in case" is not good enough.
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Post by londonpostie on Nov 28, 2021 1:35:20 GMT
I don't know what "compulsory" means in this sense.
On the tube you know where you are; it's in the amended terms of service, so they can refuse to allow you access.
I'll probably class it as well-meaning encouragement.
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Post by Jon on Nov 28, 2021 2:27:19 GMT
Don't book car hire in Iceland at all, you would be completely daft. I was there just over a month ago and driving conditions were difficult even for locals who are used to it. At one point the winds were over 60mph and it was a bit scary even with a local driver. Read locals' travel advice and heed it, the weather conditions really are no joke (crosswinds especially). Take organised trips instead as they have vehicles and drivers who are able to cope with the weather. This is totally off-topic but I was watching Iceland with Alexander Armstrong on Channel 5 and he went to the Icelandic Phallological Museum and amusingly, it made me want to go visit Iceland just to visit that museum! |
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Post by talkingheads on Nov 28, 2021 7:25:31 GMT
Good. Can go to a play without a muzzle A muzzle. Really? It's a bit of cloth you wear to protect other people and they wear to protect you. That's literally it. I'm sorry, but getting so upset about something so simple to protect others is, at best selfish, at worst criminally negligent. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2021 9:34:28 GMT
If the govt wants us to comply with restrictions, it needs to show we're in some kind of emergency where disaster's certain or near-certain without them. If it can produce a compelling case that that is true, I shall comply. If not, I shall not. "Just in case" is not good enough. Use your own eyes and brain, read the news. If you don't understand how dangerous Covid still is that is no-one's fault but your own. The attitude you are displaying in this thread is astonishingly selfish. |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Nov 28, 2021 10:14:29 GMT
I'm an American in Paris at the moment and you have to show proof of vaccination to enter museums and most restaurants. Masks are required in shops and on transit with fairly good compliance. And normal life is able to go on because of these precautions. Restaurants are full, shops are busy, people are out and about. Additional precautions will be in place shortly, including offering booster shots to everyone (and requiring them for certain groups in order to keep their vaccine pass), making masks mandatory in all indoor spaces (and some outdoor events) and reducing the validity period of using a negative test result instead of a vaccine pass. Sadly, when I travel to London in December, I'll probably stop going out to eat, won't be buying new theater tickets and I'll probably restrict my activities that involve crowded indoor venues if they don't require vaccination proof and/or testing, in addition to masking. You can do what you think is best for yourself of course but I can assure you that it is a ānormal ā here as I have ever seen it. Yes, covid pass for some venues, not all by any means, temp checks maybe in place of and the restaurants are heaving. I don't do clubs but I expect they are all heaving too. People are shopping as can be seen by the number of designer bags being hauled onto the tube this evening. Mask wearing varies; seems about 70% wear on tube in my experience. Inside theatres, 30% unless asked by management to wear. Shops 50% I would say. Hairdressers vary but seem to be keeping to the masks wearing and distancing rules. Etc etc. I do not know the numbers . Perhaps Paris is āsaferā than London. I am triple jabbed, wear a mask in indoor situations and keep my distance: I donāt go to social occasions with more than a few people so you can say I am pretty cautious. I have been to the theatre a few times, different measures each time. Inconsistency rules. But London is busy. As I said I do not know the numbers. Maybe check yourself but if you take some precautions I think you will be āsafeā. Yep, Paris > London |
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Post by zahidf on Nov 28, 2021 11:24:00 GMT
If the govt wants us to comply with restrictions, it needs to show we're in some kind of emergency where disaster's certain or near-certain without them. If it can produce a compelling case that that is true, I shall comply. If not, I shall not. "Just in case" is not good enough. Use your own eyes and brain, read the news. If you don't understand how dangerous Covid still is that is no-one's fault but your own. The attitude you are displaying in this thread is astonishingly selfish. I dont remember voting for a system where everyone is wearing masks indoors. āWhatās so hard about wearing a mask?ā is not aĀ reasonĀ to wear a mask. Itās anĀ excuseĀ to defend mask wearing in particular and compelled behaviour in general. Me, my friends and family are all done with this crap. Zero compliance this end with any restrictions |
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Post by Jonnyboy on Nov 28, 2021 11:29:16 GMT
Some of what Iām reading here makes me ashamed to be a human.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2021 11:36:41 GMT
Use your own eyes and brain, read the news. If you don't understand how dangerous Covid still is that is no-one's fault but your own. The attitude you are displaying in this thread is astonishingly selfish. I dont remember voting for a system where everyone is wearing masks indoors. āWhatās so hard about wearing a mask?ā is not aĀ reasonĀ to wear a mask. Itās anĀ excuseĀ to defend mask wearing in particular and compelled behaviour in general. Me, my friends and family are all done with this crap. Zero compliance this end with any restrictions I don't remember voting for a system that allows idiots like you to freely roam around without a care for anyone else. Democracy doesn't mean zero responsibility, it exists to keep society functioning and that requires collective social responsibility. Your hypocrisy is astounding, as everything you complain about is exactly what you are demonstrating - you complain about "compelled behaviour" but you are compelling others to take increased risk because you are acting like a child and won't take your fair share of basic social responsibility just because you can't be bothered. You don't live in a bubble where your selfish desires take priority over everything else. You live in a society and that comes with responsibilities as well as rights. Sadly it appears you and many others think you can have the latter but not the former. Life doesn't work like that. If I knew you in real life I would be utterly ashamed to be associated with what you're writing. |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Nov 28, 2021 11:41:05 GMT
Use your own eyes and brain, read the news. If you don't understand how dangerous Covid still is that is no-one's fault but your own. The attitude you are displaying in this thread is astonishingly selfish. I dont remember voting for a system where everyone is wearing masks indoors. āWhatās so hard about wearing a mask?ā is not a reason to wear a mask. Itās an excuse to defend mask wearing in particular and compelled behaviour in general. Me, my friends and family are all done with this crap. Zero compliance this end with any restrictions A very strange take on life, I don't recognise any part of this within me. It makes me sad |
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Post by zahidf on Nov 28, 2021 11:53:07 GMT
I dont remember voting for a system where everyone is wearing masks indoors. āWhatās so hard about wearing a mask?ā is not aĀ reasonĀ to wear a mask. Itās anĀ excuseĀ to defend mask wearing in particular and compelled behaviour in general. Me, my friends and family are all done with this crap. Zero compliance this end with any restrictions I don't remember voting for a system that allows idiots like you to freely roam around without a care for anyone else. Democracy doesn't mean zero responsibility, it exists to keep society functioning and that requires collective social responsibility. Your hypocrisy is astounding, as everything you complain about is exactly what you are demonstrating - you complain about "compelled behaviour" but you are compelling others to take increased risk because you are acting like a child and won't take your fair share of basic social responsibility just because you can't be bothered. You don't live in a bubble where your selfish desires take priority over everything else. You live in a society and that comes with responsibilities as well as rights. Sadly it appears you and many others think you can have the latter but not the former. Life doesn't work like that. If I knew you in real life I would be utterly ashamed to be associated with what you're writing. Well society can't demand from me a behaviour of staying away from people and muzzling up. Its been almost 2 years and I wont do it anymore. |
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Post by zahidf on Nov 28, 2021 12:02:27 GMT
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Post by Mark on Nov 28, 2021 12:04:54 GMT
Everything is pointing to this being highly transmissible but very mild symptoms.
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Post by zahidf on Nov 28, 2021 14:08:03 GMT
Mission creep
Trying to get us masked up every winter clearly.
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Post by partytentdown on Nov 28, 2021 14:11:30 GMT
Mission creep Trying to get us masked up every winter clearly. Can we block this idiotic person, or something? |
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Post by robertb213 on Nov 28, 2021 14:12:53 GMT
Completely agree with the above suggestion!!
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Post by stagebyte on Nov 28, 2021 17:12:48 GMT
Mods - can we āmuzzleā this person in the real sense with a swift block?
Iām all for free speech but donāt come to this board for trolling which surely this person is otherwise thereās really no hope...
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Post by zahidf on Nov 28, 2021 17:18:23 GMT
Mods - can we āmuzzleā this person in the real sense with a swift block? Iām all for free speech but donāt come to this board for trolling which surely this person is otherwise thereās really no hope... This is the Covid thread and I'm talking about Covid. I'm not saying anything rude to anyone just expressing a different (and widely held) opinion to others on here. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2021 17:19:04 GMT
I don't remember voting for a system that allows idiots like you to freely roam around without a care for anyone else. Democracy doesn't mean zero responsibility, it exists to keep society functioning and that requires collective social responsibility. Your hypocrisy is astounding, as everything you complain about is exactly what you are demonstrating - you complain about "compelled behaviour" but you are compelling others to take increased risk because you are acting like a child and won't take your fair share of basic social responsibility just because you can't be bothered. You don't live in a bubble where your selfish desires take priority over everything else. You live in a society and that comes with responsibilities as well as rights. Sadly it appears you and many others think you can have the latter but not the former. Life doesn't work like that. If I knew you in real life I would be utterly ashamed to be associated with what you're writing. Well society can't demand from me a behaviour of staying away from people and muzzling up. Its been almost 2 years and I wont do it anymore. No-one is demanding either of those things. There are no restrictions on who you can see, though personal space is not a new thing. If you invade mine now I will probably elbow you out of the way. If you did it 3 years ago I would have done the same. And unless you are a dog, no-one is demanding you wear a muzzle. A mask is not a muzzle, nor does it prevent you from doing anything whatsoever. All you are doing is admitting you are such a poor human that you don't care about anyone at all but yourself (including your family and friends). If you cared at all about them you would wear a mask. It really is as simple as that, and all you are doing is making an idiot of yourself and coming across as if you are a toddler. |
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