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Post by Mark on Oct 7, 2021 16:52:01 GMT
Red list effectively dropped with only 7 countries remaining.
PCR test requirements also dropped, only a lateral flow on day 2 now needed.
Great news for my industry for sure!
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Post by hairspray57 on Oct 7, 2021 17:36:23 GMT
Sadly cases have started to rise again after it did look like they had peaked.
Not exactly sure why a decline followed by this rise is happening. It’s an odd pattern.
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Post by Phantom of London on Oct 7, 2021 18:19:57 GMT
We're getting more cases than India now and that is worrying.
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Post by hairspray57 on Oct 7, 2021 19:11:16 GMT
We're getting more cases than India now and that is worrying. We have had for a while. India probably does still have a lot more cases but testing is not as advanced there. God knows how many cases India was actually having per day at their peak. |
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Post by londonpostie on Oct 7, 2021 19:30:51 GMT
Comparing northern and southern hemisphere is daft. We knew that a year ago. Around these parts we're heading towards winter, and it'll be another wave. The question for policy isn't infections or even deaths, it's double vaxxed deaths.
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Post by hairspray57 on Oct 7, 2021 20:53:22 GMT
Comparing northern and southern hemisphere is daft. We knew that a year ago. Around these parts we're heading towards winter, and it'll be another wave. The question for policy isn't infections or even deaths, it's double vaxxed deaths. Surely it’s double vax hospitalisations. That puts the strain. |
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Post by nick on Oct 7, 2021 21:31:19 GMT
Comparing northern and southern hemisphere is daft. We knew that a year ago. Around these parts we're heading towards winter, and it'll be another wave. The question for policy isn't infections or even deaths, it's double vaxxed deaths. Surely it’s double vax hospitalisations. That puts the strain. Yes. Double vaccinated deaths are minimal. Double vaccinated hospitalisations are inevitable. Like seat belts - when seat belts were made compulsory then accidents with belt wearers went up. Not because belts were dangerous but because many more people were wearing them. But it seems that pretty much every double vaccinated person is either in hospital because they have a different illness (eg they’re in hospital because they have cancer but are then tested for Covid) or they have a condition that makes Covid symptoms worse. |
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Post by hairspray57 on Oct 7, 2021 21:33:51 GMT
Surely it’s double vax hospitalisations. That puts the strain. Yes. Double vaccinated deaths are minimal. Double vaccinated hospitalisations are inevitable. Like seat belts - when seat belts were made compulsory then accidents with belt wearers went up. Not because belts were dangerous but because many more people were wearing them. But it seems that pretty much every double vaccinated person is either in hospital because they have a different illness (eg they’re in hospital because they have cancer but are then tested for Covid) or they have a condition that makes Covid symptoms worse. Through even that can add the strain if lots are getting it at once. Booster jabs seem to be going a bit slower than the peak vaccination figures we saw in February and March where all the over 50’s and younger vulnerable people were getting vaccinated en Mass. |
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Post by Phantom of London on Oct 7, 2021 22:14:46 GMT
No but we have the 4th highest infections in the world now and we are an island, so we should be able to contain the virus more. What s Spain, Germany and Poland doing what we’re not doing?
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Post by nick on Oct 7, 2021 22:29:08 GMT
Through even that can add the strain if lots are getting it at once. Booster jabs seem to be going a bit slower than the peak vaccination figures we saw in February and March where all the over 50’s and younger vulnerable people were getting vaccinated en Mass. Not slower. My wife had a January vaccine and only became due for the booster last week so we not yet into the growth of feb/march. But the facilities seem to be ready to cope. |
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Post by Jon on Oct 7, 2021 22:29:58 GMT
I imagine there is going to a lot of demand for Molnupiravir and other oral treatments globally just like there was with the vaccines late last year and the start of this year. Interestingly, Molnupiravir was only tested on unvaccinated volunteers so it could even more effective in vaccinated individuals.
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Post by eua78 on Oct 7, 2021 22:40:12 GMT
No but we have the 4th highest infections in the world now and we are an island, so we should be able to contain the virus more. What s Spain, Germany and Poland doing what we’re not doing? The fact we have absolutely no restrictions, this article sums it up quite well. Many countries across Europe still have mask mandates and social distancing guidelines. www.nytimes.com/2021/08/28/world/europe/coronavirus-britain-uk.html |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Oct 8, 2021 7:29:21 GMT
No but we have the 4th highest infections in the world now and we are an island, so we should be able to contain the virus more. What s Spain, Germany and Poland doing what we’re not doing? The fact we have absolutely no restrictions, this article sums it up quite well. Many countries across Europe still have mask mandates and social distancing guidelines. www.nytimes.com/2021/08/28/world/europe/coronavirus-britain-uk.htmlBehind a pay wall for me that link |
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Post by TallPaul on Oct 8, 2021 8:14:32 GMT
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Post by eua78 on Oct 8, 2021 8:19:22 GMT
Behind a pay wall for me that link Ah sorry didn’t realise, it showed for me as it has a free article limit or something |
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Post by hairspray57 on Oct 8, 2021 8:59:34 GMT
Through even that can add the strain if lots are getting it at once. Booster jabs seem to be going a bit slower than the peak vaccination figures we saw in February and March where all the over 50’s and younger vulnerable people were getting vaccinated en Mass. Not slower. My wife had a January vaccine and only became due for the booster last week so we not yet into the growth of feb/march. But the facilities seem to be ready to cope. We are in some areas. Relatives had their first at the end of January (on one of busiest days of the vaccination programme) and second in April and are getting it today slightly before six months after. |
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Post by nick on Oct 8, 2021 9:39:37 GMT
Not slower. My wife had a January vaccine and only became due for the booster last week so we not yet into the growth of feb/march. But the facilities seem to be ready to cope. We are in some areas. Relatives had their first at the end of January (on one of busiest days of the vaccination programme) and second in April and are getting it today slightly before six months after. Yes we must be close to the rapid rollout. My son gets his tomorrow. I’ll have to wait until November. As the fittest person in our house I’m at the back of the queue. On a side note my son caught a cold and has given it to me. Despite being careful with masks, hand washing etc. I suspect there will be lots of colds around this winter. On a side side note. My wife had both flu and booster while my son is only offered the booster. |
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Post by lichtie on Oct 8, 2021 10:14:38 GMT
Yes, it's not the total case rates that really indicate what is happening - what you need to look at is the positivity rate since that's telling you what fraction of those tests done show evidence for COVID. For that statistic it doesn't really matter whether testing is widespread or not as long as the samples are statistically equivalent (and they probably are for this).
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Post by hairspray57 on Oct 8, 2021 10:55:23 GMT
The DWP are now telling people their first pensions are being delayed because the staff are still working from home and they can’t make them come back. How is that acceptable.
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Post by Jon on Oct 8, 2021 11:19:06 GMT
The DWP are now telling people their first pensions are being delayed because the staff are still working from home and they can’t make them come back. How is that acceptable. Stop scaremongering.. |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Oct 8, 2021 12:53:22 GMT
The DWP are now telling people their first pensions are being delayed because the staff are still working from home and they can’t make them come back. How is that acceptable. Stop scaremongering.. Be a riot, no? Not paying the blue vote |
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Post by hairspray57 on Oct 8, 2021 13:23:30 GMT
Telling the truth is not scaremongering.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2021 13:46:18 GMT
Telling the truth is not scaremongering. Then perhaps you could provide some evidence for your claims. |
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Post by hairspray57 on Oct 8, 2021 14:34:10 GMT
Telling the truth is not scaremongering. Then perhaps you could provide some evidence for your claims. First hand experience of a relative who is experiencing this problem. |
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Post by christya on Oct 8, 2021 14:40:09 GMT
That’s why I think they should be a 2% tax per day working from home. So 10% extra on income tax if you want to work from five days a week. That might be one of the most ridiculous things I've read for quite some time. My salary is mine, and I am already taxed for my contribution to the public services and facilities I receive. So because I don't want to waste time, money and effort to trail into an office in order to sit at a different desk doing the same thing as I can do at my home desk, I should be punished by being taxed extra? What next? "Oh, Sharon, I see you brought lunch in a tupperware box instead of buying from Pret, that's an extra percentage on your tax this month!" That sort of thing smacks of sour grapes and is usually heard from people who don't have the option to work from home. |
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