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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 0:42:35 GMT
I'm getting the sense it may be prudent for me to rethink my ambition of coming over from the States for a week of theatre in November.
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Post by eua78 on Jul 19, 2021 1:08:03 GMT
I'm getting the sense it may be prudent for me to rethink my ambition of coming over from the States for a week of theatre in November. I’d love to see us open and safe this winter but Who knows with the uk, we go in and out of lockdown like a yo yo 😅
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Post by talkingheads on Jul 19, 2021 5:33:32 GMT
I'm getting the sense it may be prudent for me to rethink my ambition of coming over from the States for a week of theatre in November. I’d love to see us open and safe this winter but Who knows with the uk, we go in and out of lockdown like a yo yo 😅 I am really worried about theatres if they can't get full pantomime income for a second year.
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Post by The Matthew on Jul 19, 2021 6:04:07 GMT
Johnson and Sunak won't self isolate, presumably sending out the message that nobody else needs to if they get pinged either A record for the fastest U turn. Imagine if they had the foresight to do the right thing from the start Beep! Beep! Beep! Stand well back. This politician is reversing. Beep! Beep! Beep! Stand well back. This politician is reversing.
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Post by eua78 on Jul 19, 2021 6:43:49 GMT
I’d love to see us open and safe this winter but Who knows with the uk, we go in and out of lockdown like a yo yo 😅 I am really worried about theatres if they can't get full pantomime income for a second .
Especially smaller venues that haven’t had an income since March 2020 and rely on the yearly pantomime to bring in some much needed cash. I maintain hope of seeing some form of life returning this Christmas though, I for one would love to see all the family this year. 🤞
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Post by daisy24601 on Jul 19, 2021 7:45:16 GMT
The places I go the most, tube, work, theatre still require a mask so I don't sense much difference at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 7:58:58 GMT
The politician reversing would make an excellent GIF.
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Post by eua78 on Jul 19, 2021 8:00:33 GMT
The places I go the most, tube, work, theatre still require a mask so I don't sense much difference at the moment. Think the main difference is no social distancing requirements, full capacity venues etc
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Post by christya on Jul 19, 2021 8:22:59 GMT
Honestly, it annoys me more when Boris pulls this kind of u-turn than if he just stuck to his guns. I'd rather he said "you know what, yes it's a different rule for me because I'm the bloody Prime Minister" than back down. When he backs down, you still know he was THINKING it, but you also know he has the backbone of a jellyfish.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jul 19, 2021 8:47:30 GMT
So was anyone queueing up at a night club last night at midnight?
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Post by anita on Jul 19, 2021 8:59:50 GMT
The places I go the most, tube, work, theatre still require a mask so I don't sense much difference at the moment. I don't call this freedom.
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Post by talkingheads on Jul 19, 2021 9:12:39 GMT
The places I go the most, tube, work, theatre still require a mask so I don't sense much difference at the moment. I don't call this freedom. Why? Genuinely. Everywhere is open. You can currently buy theatre tickets, cinema tickets, go shopping. How is that not freedom?
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 19, 2021 11:25:57 GMT
Based on experience at work (in retail) and on the bus this morning it feels like mask wearing was still taken up by the vast majority.
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Post by talkingheads on Jul 19, 2021 12:07:57 GMT
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Post by poster J on Jul 19, 2021 12:16:05 GMT
Presumably unrestricted international travel and lots of things that aren't totally in the government's control. And I suppose they're probably mostly anti-vaxxers as well so are targeting vaccine passports and testing requirements...
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Post by karloscar on Jul 19, 2021 14:41:01 GMT
"Silenzio Bruno!": Alberto's way to silence the nagging self doubts that prevent you from taking action. "Silenzio Boris!": The cry up and down the country whenever that compulsive liar of a PM opens his gob. (Or any other UK government minister for that matter)
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Post by eua78 on Jul 19, 2021 16:09:30 GMT
So it seems the government is now making double vaccination an entry requirement once all over 18s are offered both jabs for large events, nightclubs etc. I assume theatres come into this category. negative tests will no longer be accepted.
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Post by zahidf on Jul 19, 2021 16:09:58 GMT
NEWS 🦠🚨Vaccines Minister Nadhim Zahawi says a negative test result will no longer be enough to gain access to nightclubs and large indoor events by end of Sept. They must show proof of two jabs.
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Post by christya on Jul 19, 2021 16:19:59 GMT
Excellent. If people won't do it to help us get out of this mess, maybe some good old self-interest will do the trick.
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jul 19, 2021 16:24:09 GMT
„NEW: From the end of September, entry to nightclubs and "other venues where large crowds gather" will be limited to those who are fully vaccinated, Nadhim Zahawi announces. Proof of a negative test will no longer be enough. Medical exemptions will be allowed.“
This means no entry to any concert hall, arena etc. without vaccination
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Post by Jon on Jul 19, 2021 16:25:37 GMT
Excellent. If people won't do it to help us get out of this mess, maybe some good old self-interest will do the trick. I fully expect that the daily contact testing will be brought in by the time schools reopen in September, perhaps sooner.
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jul 19, 2021 16:34:55 GMT
Excellent. If people won't do it to help us get out of this mess, maybe some good old self-interest will do the trick. I fully expect that the daily contact testing will be brought in by the time schools reopen in September, perhaps sooner. in NRW for two months now every class makes two quick test per week ...collects them into one...per class and then the schools sent these class tests to a pcr test center...if they detect in these class tests one positive...the class is sent in quarantine and they make a pcr test of each pupil of this class So they detect/sort out the heavy spreaders
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Post by sph on Jul 19, 2021 16:36:01 GMT
I'm a bit dubious as to how strictly enforced such a policy will be to be honest. I've had my first jab and will be getting my second, so I guess it won't affect my life so much, but I do think it's going to be a bizarre world where we have to present our vaccination record to access daily businesses and services.
Again, before everyone tells me how awful I am for hoping life returns to normal, I think EVERYONE should get vaccinated, I'm just not sure if a vaccine passport society is necessarily a good thing.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 19, 2021 17:04:26 GMT
I don't know this would be the case if the uptake in younger categories was higher, apparently 35% of 18-30yr olds haven't had a jab and only a small % of that, you would assume, is down to them just not having their appointment yet given the pace of the roll out over the last few weeks and months.. It seems to me that this vaccine passport scheme now is at least in part to try and force them to get a jab, seeing as that age group would be very likely to want to go to clubs and concerts ect.
I'm fine with this, if people aren't getting a jab, do something to make it so they can't enjoy life without it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 17:05:17 GMT
Again, before everyone tells me how awful I am for hoping life returns to normal, I think EVERYONE should get vaccinated, I'm just not sure if a vaccine passport society is necessarily a good thing. They certainly raise questions, but the most important one for me is this: what other option might get as many people to finally become vaccinated? Here in the States, major incentives to get vaxxed are no longer driving people to do so. We've seen in France how quickly signups surged once Macron dropped the hammer.
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Post by eua78 on Jul 19, 2021 17:10:56 GMT
I'm a bit dubious as to how strictly enforced such a policy will be to be honest. I've had my first jab and will be getting my second, so I guess it won't affect my life so much, but I do think it's going to be a bizarre world where we have to present our vaccination record to access daily businesses and services. Again, before everyone tells me how awful I am for hoping life returns to normal, I think EVERYONE should get vaccinated, I'm just not sure if a vaccine passport society is necessarily a good thing. I agree there, it's gonna be weird having to take proof of something round with me every time I want to go out. I struggle to see how venues would enforce such a policy
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 19, 2021 17:17:17 GMT
Surely the hope would be though that soon enough so much of the population has been double jabbed that it won't actually be needed anymore. I think this just shows that it's not quite at the levels they are comfortable with at the moment, especially it seems with the younger age group. So hopefully this results in a sudden surge of jabs and we won't have to do it for very long.
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Post by sph on Jul 19, 2021 17:20:56 GMT
I think vaccines are very important and these ones really have been the best thing to happen since the start of this pandemic, but at the same time, I feel vaccine passports feel a bit... dystopian? I'm very conflicted.
Maybe that's irrational. But I guess since I'll be getting both jabs it won't affect me directly. It just feels a bit... off.
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Post by marob on Jul 19, 2021 17:27:34 GMT
Well, waving a bit of paper (or a phone with an app on it) at someone on your way in is way less intrusive than the bag searches.
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Post by sph on Jul 19, 2021 17:48:40 GMT
I mean I suppose we'll just get used to vaccine passports as we do everything else. I know logically it's no different to a bag search or ID check, but maybe because it's medical it seems more... I don't know. I mean if you bring a bag to a venue, well that's on you. You get it searched. If a venue says "you cannot enter until you have had a specific type of medicine", it just feels a bit... I mean am I crazy? It feels a bit weird, right?
I'm not saying it's outright wrong and I understand the reasoning, it just feels off.
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