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Post by stevej678 on Jun 4, 2021 17:02:15 GMT
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Post by firefingers on Jun 4, 2021 17:34:02 GMT
Blimey there is some nonsense in there. "Increased pressure on the NHS" hospital admissions are still dropping, deaths are now so low as to almost be statistical noise, with the rise of cases being almost exclusively in the unvaccinated age groups, who are far less likely to get seriously ill (hence the drop in deaths and hospital admissions) People taking sensible precautions like face masks on public transport (even 0 covid New Zealand does this) that have no detrimental economic impact is one thing, limiting hospitality capacity after the last 15 months and with the cost of Brecit biting them in supplies and staffing is, in my opinion, daft. |
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Post by lynette on Jun 4, 2021 17:42:19 GMT
Social distancing can remain for ever as far as I’m concerned. Love it! No more kissy kissy greetings or sitting next to Mr Smelly or Boozy ( other genders also available) Just be near the people you wan to be near. Heaven. Masks I’ll put up for as long as required. I find it difficult to breathe but I limit when I need to wear them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2021 18:18:43 GMT
Social distancing can remain for ever as far as I’m concerned. I carry around a two metre pole and if anyone gets too close to me I beat them soundly with it until they get the message and move away.
(Virus? What do you mean, virus? What virus?)
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Post by Jon on Jun 4, 2021 22:59:32 GMT
I carry around a two metre pole and if anyone gets too close to me I beat them soundly with it until they get the message and move away.(Virus? What do you mean, virus? What virus?) I think a taser might be better What a good suggestion.... |
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Post by talkingheads on Jun 8, 2021 15:30:22 GMT
I'm getting quite fed up with the lack of provision for single theatregoers. Booking Oleanna at the MAST Mayflower Studios, the only single seats are at the back. Bubbles of two are £60 yet a bubble of three front row seats is £43? How does any of that make sense?
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Post by robertb213 on Jun 8, 2021 17:08:35 GMT
I'm getting quite fed up with the lack of provision for single theatregoers. Booking Oleanna at the MAST Mayflower Studios, the only single seats are at the back. Bubbles of two are £60 yet a bubble of three front row seats is £43? How does any of that make sense? Same. I'm resigned to not seeing anything as a solo theatregoer until next year now. I get the economics but it's a shame. |
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 8, 2021 17:51:37 GMT
I had success today getting a single seat for a the ALW concert at Curve even though none were showing up online. They sorted one out for me when I rang them. Sometimes it might be worth contacting the physical ticket office rather than just taking whatever is available online as your only option.
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Post by zahidf on Jun 8, 2021 22:46:21 GMT
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Post by sph on Jun 8, 2021 22:53:38 GMT
Ooft. Not sure how that one's going to pan out...
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Post by djp on Jun 9, 2021 0:53:13 GMT
If there isn't some system to identify the unvaccinated from the vaccinated, surely that's a recipe for disaster? I would be able to relax much more in a theatre knowing that all around me were vaccinated. Why should selfish people trapped in their own myopic little world be entitled to the same benefits as those of us who are vaccinated? Problem is bigger if you want to go and see anything frequented by under 12s . They are probably not going to be vaccinated and most won't be wearing masks and they are very likely to get asymptomatic infections from school mates. Ruins my list of what i would otherwise go and see first... |
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Post by djp on Jun 9, 2021 1:22:28 GMT
I hear ALW is planning to sue the government if theatres don’t fully open on 21st June. Article in the Daily Mail with him stood next to CHF in an orange sun dress thank you! Good luck with that Andy! I'm sure the virus is quaking in it's boots! It just doesn't understand the grief it's caused to billionaires does it? Bizarrely, or because he's been careful with estate duty, he says he has no money and will have to sell his theatres? But as he is the landlord is he charging himself to much in rent or failing to cover repairs from his bank accounts. ? Very odd. And if the most successful of Camerons's new shows are acknowledged to have driven profits ups substantially in the accounts , it would seem to follow that break even point often doesn't require a full house - just as it doesn't much of the time outside London and doesn't for regional theatres opening at half capacity now. He needs to explain his figures, and his claim that theatres are not potential mass spreading events .
ALW seems to just not get it. If Covid delta/Indian is 40% more transmittable than Kent Covid - which was about the same amount more infectious than the original - measures designed to contain the original variant won't work as well with the new variant. Thats why the Kent variant wasn't contained by the Tier measures - the maths all changed and have now changed again.. And he has a particular problem with being based in London because London has both a younger population that won't be vaccinated by June 21 , and large numbers of people in the groups with low vaccine uptake, as well as public transport which can rapidly become crowded.Meanwhile the polls suggest his theatres won't be full anyway with the groups who would buy full price tickets wanting a more cautious approach to opening up than potentially on offer.
Cameron seems to have a better idea of whats going on. I think Mary P is back in August and the Les Mis tour next year - which looks more realistic.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 9, 2021 1:57:41 GMT
Andrew Lloyd Webber threatens, if social distancing is not ditched, he will personally see to it that The Phantom of the Opera orchestra is cut to just a single player on the keys.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 9, 2021 4:48:03 GMT
Not a great vibe for the audience either, knowing that they’re participating in breaking the law. I’m sure some would revel in it but I’d be asking for my ticket money back based on it being an illegal event.
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Post by talkingheads on Jun 9, 2021 7:53:55 GMT
Not a great vibe for the audience either, knowing that they’re participating in breaking the law. I’m sure some would revel in it but I’d be asking for my ticket money back based on it being an illegal event. Surely he's just talking BS? For one thing, it would violate any insurance policy and staff safety regulations? |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jun 9, 2021 8:21:01 GMT
Not a great vibe for the audience either, knowing that they’re participating in breaking the law. I’m sure some would revel in it but I’d be asking for my ticket money back based on it being an illegal event. Surely he's just talking BS? For one thing, it would violate any insurance policy and staff safety regulations? First glance at the photo I thought it was a clenched fist salute, closer inspection says no so you're probably right |
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Post by kathryn on Jun 9, 2021 10:54:09 GMT
I got jittery enough being on a not particularly crowded Central Line tube for 20 minutes last week knowing it was the most likely place I’d pick up an infection with only having had one jab. No way I’m sitting in a full-capacity theatre for 2 hours until I’m fully vaccinated and reasonably confident that most of the rest of the audience is too.
So at current progress that’s going to be the autumn.
I may be young enough not to be at high risk of death, but Long Covid is no joke and I’m the right age-range and sex to get it. No theatre show is worth months of illness, so I’m not gonna take that risk.
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Post by Dawnstar on Jun 9, 2021 12:23:34 GMT
kathryn I would like to emphatically second your post. I feel exactly the same way.
If ALW sues the government I suggest they counter-sue him for the cost to the NHS of providing care to anyone who catches covid in one of his theatres or travelling to/from said theatres, plus the cost to the economy if people have to self-isolate due to possible exposure & cannot go to work. |
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Post by ceebee on Jun 9, 2021 13:44:39 GMT
I'm off to Leicester on Saturday and then Cinderella end of the month followed by a splurge of shows in July (provided that the theatres open up as intended). Horses for courses - I'm comfortable with the risk and that things are under control, so hope that the doors don't stay shut any longer. We need to learn to live with this as we have done with other diseases. We can't be on pause indefinitely.
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Post by alece10 on Jun 9, 2021 13:47:42 GMT
Is there any published evidence of people getting Covid from attending an event in the theatre? We had that short period in August, then before Christmas and there have been some shows in the past few weeks but I've seen nothing to suggest that people are catching it whilst there.
Probably more chance on the public transport getting there and back.
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Post by lichtie on Jun 9, 2021 15:21:22 GMT
That's what the test events were supposed to tell us. ALW was on the Today programme this morning where he was slightly more nuanced - basically saying leaks of the data from those tests showed no problems, so why didn't the government publish the full results for people to see.
People seem to be better at wearing masks on public transport so I suspect that's not a big source. We know schools are, and there is some evidence in Scotland that pubs have locally generated spreading events. Don't see a problem with theatres if masks are still required to be honest. But apparently the government don't want to have a stage 3.5 so we won't see social distancing removed from one activity alone.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 16:38:56 GMT
People seem to be better at wearing masks on public transport so I suspect that's not a big source. You clearly haven't been on a Tube or bus in London recently! |
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 9, 2021 17:35:14 GMT
I went to the theatre for the first time today since last feb, it was at Curve for the ALW concert, and really surprisingly...it felt so normal? I had kind of expected it to feel like a momentous thing but it basically felt like i'd never stopped going in the first place!? In terms of the experience itself, it was absolutely fine. It was well organised and do you know what....the mask thing did not bother me at all and I really thought it would. Through the performance I forgot I even had it on.
Of course I'd love all restrictions to be lifted but if the price of being able to see theatre still is wearing masks still going forward over the next few weeks/months I'm really a lot more fine with it now I've done it than I was before.
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Post by lichtie on Jun 9, 2021 18:39:45 GMT
People seem to be better at wearing masks on public transport so I suspect that's not a big source. You clearly haven't been on a Tube or bus in London recently!
Actually I have - for the first time in some months and thought it was better than last summer when no one seemed to care.
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Post by ceebee on Jun 9, 2021 19:28:22 GMT
I went to the theatre for the first time today since last feb, it was at Curve for the ALW concert, and really surprisingly...it felt so normal? I had kind of expected it to feel like a momentous thing but it basically felt like i'd never stopped going in the first place!? In terms of the experience itself, it was absolutely fine. It was well organised and do you know what....the mask thing did not bother me at all and I really thought it would. Through the performance I forgot I even had it on. Of course I'd love all restrictions to be lifted but if the price of being able to see theatre still is wearing masks still going forward over the next few weeks/months I'm really a lot more fine with it now I've done it than I was before. Was it good? I'm going Saturday! |
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