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Post by Forrest on Nov 17, 2020 11:46:39 GMT
talkingheads, I started writing a reply last night to tell you that I don't think streamed concerts would really work, and then I realised that I've recently seen one and it was absolutely brilliant (and - having not thought of that immediately - that I was probably too tired to post anything and should go to bed). Having had the opportunity to sleep on it, I'd say it might work relatively well for some things - I know it works for jazz, for instance, and can imagine it would work for something you'd watch sitting down, really - but I'm a bit sceptical what the experience of e.g. a rock concert would be like if streamed. I mean, part of the joy of those things comes from the energy that bounces off between the performer(s) and the audience, and I cannot see that being compensated for in any way online. I've watched a few of those from home/studio stripped down performances, and those were always lovely, but to me they are not really concerts, and I don't think they are intended to be; they are just meant to bridge the gap and maintain some contact with an audience while the real thing is not available. In a nutshell, I think it's much like with theatre: some things could work (monologues, performances that are more to be observed than participated in, e.g. Nick Cave with a piano at Alexandra Palace or GoGo Penguin in Abbey Road studios, stripped down versions), but the possibilities would be limited. I agree with you, though: I'd happily support the bands I like if they decided to do it.
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Post by theatreian on Nov 22, 2020 11:22:40 GMT
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Post by stevej678 on Nov 22, 2020 21:45:36 GMT
Cinemas will be allowed to open in the new tier 1 and 2 areas according to the Telegraph, implying that they will remain closed in tier 3.
No mention of theatres/live performances.
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Post by Figaro on Nov 22, 2020 22:55:52 GMT
Cinemas will be allowed to open in the new tier 1 and 2 areas according to the Telegraph, implying that they will remain closed in tier 3. No mention of theatres/live performances. Where did you read this? |
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Post by fiyero on Nov 22, 2020 22:59:18 GMT
When I have been cinema has felt even safer than theatre (by its nature theatre has been sold out or near enough as it is limited, cinema has been quiet!!)
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Post by stevej678 on Nov 22, 2020 23:00:31 GMT
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Post by talkingheads on Nov 22, 2020 23:22:35 GMT
Cinemas will be allowed to open in the new tier 1 and 2 areas according to the Telegraph, implying that they will remain closed in tier 3. No mention of theatres/live performances. Surely they wouldn't be putting on all these socially distanced pantos if they weren't allowed to open? Then again with this Government I wouldn't be surprised. |
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Post by talkingheads on Nov 23, 2020 9:14:14 GMT
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Post by stevej678 on Nov 23, 2020 10:31:00 GMT
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Post by stevej678 on Nov 23, 2020 15:47:20 GMT
Confirmed in the Prime Minister's statement that there will no indoor entertainment allowed in tier 3.
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Post by talkingheads on Nov 23, 2020 16:06:58 GMT
Confirmed in the Prime Minister's statement that there will no indoor entertainment allowed in tier 3. Do where know where London stands in the Tier categories? |
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Post by zahidf on Nov 23, 2020 16:21:21 GMT
Confirmed in the Prime Minister's statement that there will no indoor entertainment allowed in tier 3. Do where know where London stands in the Tier categories? Tabloids say tier 2 but no confirmation until Thursday |
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Post by talkingheads on Nov 23, 2020 16:31:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 17:12:48 GMT
"Whichever is LOWER."
This is quite significant and would mean Les Mis for example would not be able to admit the numbers sold. (Assuming London still tier 2).
Cameron is gonna be LIVID. As will I be if I am forced to return my ticket lol.
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Post by princeton on Nov 23, 2020 17:15:55 GMT
Whilst the biggest hit is obviously to those who are considered to be in tier three, and it's not at all at the moment clear whether the tiers will rollover from before the England-wide lockdown, but the main issue for tiers 1 and 2 is around capacity. The Covid-19 Winter Plan published today says that live performances can be open to the public but limited to 50% capacity or 1000 indoors (whichever is LOWER). As has been noted before some theatres have moved beyond the 50% capacity (for example Les Mis is planning on doing around 70%) so presumably they would have to reduce their seat numbers even if they don't come anywhere near the 1000 people indoors.
(Dom - sorry I missed your post as I was typing - so apologies for duplicating the point you made)
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Post by talkingheads on Nov 23, 2020 17:54:27 GMT
Whilst the biggest hit is obviously to those who are considered to be in tier three, and it's not at all at the moment clear whether the tiers will rollover from before the England-wide lockdown, but the main issue for tiers 1 and 2 is around capacity. The Covid-19 Winter Plan published today says that live performances can be open to the public but limited to 50% capacity or 1000 indoors (whichever is LOWER). As has been noted before some theatres have moved beyond the 50% capacity (for example Les Mis is planning on doing around 70%) so presumably they would have to reduce their seat numbers even if they don't come anywhere near the 1000 people indoors. (Dom - sorry I missed your post as I was typing - so apologies for duplicating the point you made) Interesting. Does anyone know what capacity the Palladium has sold for the panto? |
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Post by Mark on Nov 23, 2020 18:01:44 GMT
Will be devastated if I lose my tickets to Les Mis due to the capacity restriction. And the panto. Couldn’t make it up.
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Post by firstwetakemanhattan on Nov 23, 2020 18:33:56 GMT
I wouldnt be so sure that London will be a tier two city either, the PM stated that most areas will find they move up a level from before, now that seems a reference to the capital to me because it cant apply to the tier 3 areas pre lockdown2 as they cant move up any higher, given that London was tier 2, that means a step up to the highest level.
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Post by princeton on Nov 23, 2020 19:03:48 GMT
I don't believe that the Prime Minister has stated that most areas will find they move up a tier - where has that been reported? He said that restrictions within tiers would be tighter (no live theatre in tier three being an example of that). They have outlined the criteria which will be used to decide - and there's no indication that if the Government was to take a 'One London' approach - given that access the city the rate is dropping (albeit some boroughs are not) - that London would move to tier 3. Though I guess we'll have to wait until Thursday for the latest data and what that means.
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Post by firstwetakemanhattan on Nov 23, 2020 19:06:39 GMT
Indeed he did say that specifically that many places would move up a tier.
*Im sorry to say but more areas, at least temporary, will fall into higher tiers than was previously the case"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 19:13:34 GMT
I wouldnt be so sure that London will be a tier two city either, the PM stated that most areas will find they move up a level from before, now that seems a reference to the capital to me because it cant apply to the tier 3 areas pre lockdown2 as they cant move up any higher, given that London was tier 2, that means a step up to the highest level. There are economic pressures to keep London in Tier 2 while the hospital capacity levels are still ok (the north has the opposite problem - cases falling but no hospital capacity), and I think they will see London in Tier 2 this side of Christmas at least. That said though, I expect as a single theatregoer my tickets to Les Mis will be the first to be cancelled! |
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Post by princeton on Nov 23, 2020 19:57:31 GMT
Indeed he did say that specifically that many places would move up a tier.
*Im sorry to say but more areas, at least temporary, will fall into higher tiers than was previously the case" Apologies - I missed that whilst wading through the 54 page winter plan - though I do think 'more areas will go into the higher tiers' is rather different to 'most areas/many places will find they move up a tier'. But let's wait and see what Thursday holds - for as we know the Prime Minister has never been strong on detail. |
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Post by princeton on Nov 23, 2020 20:03:26 GMT
That said though, I expect as a single theatregoer my tickets to Les Mis will be the first to be cancelled! Fingers crossed, given that it's easier to get the numbers down by cancelling larger parties, that you'll be OK. As a fellow solo theatregoer we've hardly been at the top of anyone's list to date. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 20:20:40 GMT
That said though, I expect as a single theatregoer my tickets to Les Mis will be the first to be cancelled! Fingers crossed, given that it's easier to get the numbers down by cancelling larger parties, that you'll be OK. As a fellow solo theatregoer we've hardly been at the top of anyone's list to date. I really hope that too - Heaven knows as single theatre go-ers we need our spirits lifted! |
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Post by alece10 on Nov 23, 2020 20:37:39 GMT
Or would they cancel upper circle and cheaper seats? They aren't going to cancel the premium seat holders as would lose more money. Or they could ask how many times you went to the theatre last year and anyone with 1 or less trips is booted out first.  |
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