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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 11:58:18 GMT
I'm lucky, I've got a flat and my work is as safe as any job can be at the moment - but I feel really isolated and there is nothing to look forward to and nothing in my life except work (and I have never exactly been a workaholic, work is what I do to pay for life, it's never been particularly meaningful in and of itself). If there was any sense of certainty I would cope better, but there isn't and I've no way of knowing when all the things that gave my life meaning will be there again. There really is no point to this life that I'm living right now. I know we'll come out the other side at some point, but it feels very long and hard at the moment. Yes, exactly - that sums up precisely how I feel at the minute as well, it really does feel as if there is no point.
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Post by danb on May 11, 2020 12:11:30 GMT
Sadly this latest update really is all about money as far as I can tell. Clearly the government have balanced the financial stability of the country against an ongoing level of death and found that they can live with it. The lockdown was only ever about keeping the virus at a level that the NHS could cope with. This is a government that promoted herd immunity and whilst the question of immunity is debatable, they are still the same government that basically said we were going to catch Covid-19 - and that hasn’t really changed. Now that R<1 and the NHS isn’t overwhelmed, they’re reintroducing people back into the world, a portion of which will undoubtably come into contact with the virus and we’ll have to see how long it takes for the infection rate to drop or increase. It’s a gamble imo but as I said, they’ve clearly decided they can live with that in order to get people earning their own money. Personally I feel they should have held off until the death rate fell below 100. Careful Kevin! Insinuating that the government are happy for the most vulnerable (ie costly) to cark it, will get you told off by the powers that be.
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Post by xanady on May 11, 2020 14:20:33 GMT
^Locally in Birmingham,I have read that single-decker buses can only SAFELY carry 5 passengers and obvs double-deckers,10 people due to social distancing...surely this is not financially feasible in terms of profit and loss?As others have said,the use of buses is going to be a logistical nightmare...due to my epilepsy I cannot legally drive so how on earth do I safely cover the journey to work?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 14:34:25 GMT
^Locally in Birmingham,I have read that single-decker buses can only SAFELY carry 5 passengers and obvs double-deckers,10 people due to social distancing...surely this is not financially feasible in terms of profit and loss?As others have said,the use of buses is going to be a logistical nightmare...due to my epilepsy I cannot legally drive so how on earth do I safely cover the journey to work? I think your options are either to wear a mask and gloves and appropriately disinfect when you get to work, or get a taxi (probably with mask and gloves as well). Social distancing on any form of transport other than a private car is just not possible, regardless of whether the government demand it or not.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 15:11:07 GMT
^Locally in Birmingham,I have read that single-decker buses can only SAFELY carry 5 passengers and obvs double-deckers,10 people due to social distancing...surely this is not financially feasible in terms of profit and loss?As others have said,the use of buses is going to be a logistical nightmare...due to my epilepsy I cannot legally drive so how on earth do I safely cover the journey to work? I think your options are either to wear a mask and gloves and appropriately disinfect when you get to work, or get a taxi (probably with mask and gloves as well). Social distancing on any form of transport other than a private car is just not possible, regardless of whether the government demand it or not. Black cab style taxis with a divide between driver and passenger might be okay, not car type taxis though. Getting one can be difficult in some places, I remember going to see a Punchdrunk thing in Norfolk, where I had to book a taxi days in advance so that I wasn’t stuck at a train station miles away from the venue.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 15:21:23 GMT
I think your options are either to wear a mask and gloves and appropriately disinfect when you get to work, or get a taxi (probably with mask and gloves as well). Social distancing on any form of transport other than a private car is just not possible, regardless of whether the government demand it or not. Black cab style taxis with a divide between driver and passenger might be okay, not car type taxis though. Getting one can be difficult in some places, I remember going to see a Punchdrunk thing in Norfolk, where I had to book a taxi days in advance so that I wasn’t stuck at a train station miles away from the venue. Well what do you suggest as the alternative then? Some of us have no other option to get around!
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Post by Someone in a tree on May 11, 2020 15:22:11 GMT
Let the mask buying begin
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 15:39:57 GMT
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Post by xanady on May 11, 2020 21:10:13 GMT
Llanymynech golf course in Oswestry straddles the Welsh/England border so apparently due to restrictions in Wales you can only play three of the holes on the course from the English side...what a farce😂
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Post by Someone in a tree on May 12, 2020 6:00:40 GMT
Llanymynech golf course in Oswestry straddles the Welsh/England border so apparently due to restrictions in Wales you can only play three of the holes on the course from the English side...what a farce😂 This story put statarists out of a job
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 8:02:16 GMT
Llanymynech golf course in Oswestry straddles the Welsh/England border so apparently due to restrictions in Wales you can only play three of the holes on the course from the English side...what a farce😂 What's so ridiculous about that? Different countries have different laws, so you'd expect to to have unusual situations at the point where the rules change. There are places on the Belgian/Dutch border where shops and cafes straddle the border and so different sides of the shop have different opening hours. There's a village on the US/Canada border where the gas station is in the US but can only be reached from Canada, so anyone wanting to fill up has to check in at the US border point (which is on a different road) before they can enter the US to buy petrol. There's a footpath in Germany that's actually part of Belgium. Picking out a special case and sneering at it because it sounds odd doesn't imply anything about the rules in force everywhere else. Special cases are always going to sound odd because they are special cases.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on May 12, 2020 8:44:05 GMT
I can't be the only one who is thinking Captain Zep Superspace Detective. And remember space cadets 'stay alert'
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Post by theglenbucklaird on May 12, 2020 8:45:53 GMT
Llanymynech golf course in Oswestry straddles the Welsh/England border so apparently due to restrictions in Wales you can only play three of the holes on the course from the English side...what a farce😂 This story put statarists out of a job Rules are rules
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Post by talkingheads on May 12, 2020 11:54:30 GMT
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Post by horton on May 12, 2020 12:14:13 GMT
Llanymynech golf course in Oswestry straddles the Welsh/England border so apparently due to restrictions in Wales you can only play three of the holes on the course from the English side...what a farce😂 What's so ridiculous about that? Different countries have different laws, so you'd expect to to have unusual situations at the point where the rules change. There are places on the Belgian/Dutch border where shops and cafes straddle the border and so different sides of the shop have different opening hours. There's a village on the US/Canada border where the gas station is in the US but can only be reached from Canada, so anyone wanting to fill up has to check in at the US border point (which is on a different road) before they can enter the US to buy petrol. There's a footpath in Germany that's actually part of Belgium. Picking out a special case and sneering at it because it sounds odd doesn't imply anything about the rules in force everywhere else. Special cases are always going to sound odd because they are special cases. I thought this was the UNITED Kingdom. The response from Scotland and Wales clarify the purely political nature of the change in advice. It was inevitable that the anti-lockdown movement would point to the apparent drop in death toll as evidence that lockdown was unnecessary- utterly ignoring the fact that lockdown was designed to reduce the rate of death from the virus. Sadly, even the positive figures are debatable- the O.N.S. has published data that contradicts the government's lower figures today. I suspected in mid-March that the equation this government was balancing was fear + anger vs boredom + financial pressure. And fundamentally, nothing has changed since the day it was decided lockdown was necessary. We are back to the guidance we had for 3 days prior to lockdown! Yet again, even with weeks to formulate the "road map", the government (which, incidentally, envelopes itself in political spin to avoid criticism- so let's not talk about "playing politics in a national emergency"), has come up with a vague approach, pushing responsibility for the nation's well-being back on the individual. Compare this with the strategies in New Zealand, Germany and South Korea, for example. The fundamental fact is that the virus has not gone away. So we have the choice a) isolate in lockdown to reduce transmission or b) ALL follow specific behaviour to minimize risk We don't have such a protocol from the government- we have vague slogans (what exactly are we being alert for? clouds of germs? someone having a single cough? someone who looks a bit dirty?) and contradictory recommendations: look at the crowds on the Tube- how are those people supposed to "go back to work" (since they can't work from home), AND avoid public transport (there are not enough Ubers in the country to cope with that demand), for instance? What happened to the hints of staggered work hours? What about public transport running at 10% capacity? Such things require co-ordination, not individual choices. The UK government has demonstrably shown itself to be incompetent during this crisis- we could consider early complacency, delay in banning mass gatherings, mis-use of resources, the PPE and care home scandals, bungled procurement, MPs being unable to interpret the government's advice correctly etc etc etc. Is it any wonder there is so much anxiety about lack of faith in this latest plan?
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Post by xanady on May 12, 2020 16:34:06 GMT
^Trying to use a little satirical humour and levity,The Matthew,that’s all...not sneering at anything...just pointing out the ridiculous nature of the situation we are all in. Not a single govt minister on Pier’s Morgan’s show or any other tv show has been able to explain all the farcical anomalies in the new rules.They all appear to be baffled and confused by the ‘loopholes’ in the system.Confusion reigns. Even the new furlough system announced earlier today is riddled with problems according to Martin Lewis’s website. Keep expecting Frank Spencer or Basil Fawlty to turn up at the daily briefings..,or perhaps Corporal Jones...don’t panic!!! Anyway.... am off to play three holes of golf tomorrow morning in Oswestry,not fore...sorry four😂
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Post by Dawnstar on May 12, 2020 16:40:42 GMT
Film and TV production restarting with social distancing. No I don't know how that will work either: Presumably no love scenes allowed!
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Post by talkingheads on May 12, 2020 16:45:24 GMT
Film and TV production restarting with social distancing. No I don't know how that will work either: Presumably no love scenes allowed! Also no affairs, fights or pub scenes in soaps. Eastenders to be given new two minute timeslot.
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Post by theatreian on May 12, 2020 17:10:40 GMT
As most of the action takes place in the pub, bistro, café etc in soaps it will be interesting to see what they do!
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Post by Jan on May 12, 2020 17:14:15 GMT
Yet again, even with weeks to formulate the "road map", the government (which, incidentally, envelopes itself in political spin to avoid criticism- so let's not talk about "playing politics in a national emergency"), has come up with a vague approach, pushing responsibility for the nation's well-being back on the individual. Compare this with the strategies in New Zealand, Germany and South Korea, for example. OK. Go ahead, tell us how the UK plan to lift lockdown is different and worse than Germany. I will warn you in advance I know a LOT about their plan. I also know the UK plan having read the 50+ page document in full.
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Post by xanady on May 12, 2020 17:17:12 GMT
^Was discussing this resumption of filming soaps etc with a friend who used to work for Granada on Corrie.One solution would be to have a single character in a room doing a monologue to camera interspersed with flashbacks from that characters’ life from previous episodes.The only problem would be that it could get very tedious if every episode was delivered within the same concept.
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Post by basdfg on May 12, 2020 18:21:28 GMT
^Was discussing this resumption of filming soaps etc with a friend who used to work for Granada on Corrie.One solution would be to have a single character in a room doing a monologue to camera interspersed with flashbacks from that characters’ life from previous episodes.The only problem would be that it could get very tedious if every episode was delivered within the same concept. I think that work for a week or if it was once a week filling one of the slots but it wouldn't rate that well.
The plans are Corrie will mention it when they back but not conduct storylines about it. Eastenders likely the same.
Emmerdale runs out of episodes at the end of the month so will surely be falling off the air.
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Post by talkingheads on May 12, 2020 18:30:25 GMT
^Was discussing this resumption of filming soaps etc with a friend who used to work for Granada on Corrie.One solution would be to have a single character in a room doing a monologue to camera interspersed with flashbacks from that characters’ life from previous episodes.The only problem would be that it could get very tedious if every episode was delivered within the same concept. I think that work for a week or if it was once a week filling one of the slots but it wouldn't rate that well.
The plans are Corrie will mention it when they back but not conduct storylines about it. Eastenders likely the same.
Emmerdale runs out of episodes at the end of the month so will surely be falling off the air.
I read of one plan to isolate all cast and crew together to resume filming. How practical that is though remains to be seen!
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Post by intoanewlife on May 12, 2020 18:35:01 GMT
They can make dinosaurs look real, I'm pretty sure they can get around social distancing x
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Post by horton on May 12, 2020 18:49:38 GMT
Yet again, even with weeks to formulate the "road map", the government (which, incidentally, envelopes itself in political spin to avoid criticism- so let's not talk about "playing politics in a national emergency"), has come up with a vague approach, pushing responsibility for the nation's well-being back on the individual. Compare this with the strategies in New Zealand, Germany and South Korea, for example. OK. Go ahead, tell us how the UK plan to lift lockdown is different and worse than Germany. I will warn you in advance I know a LOT about their plan. I also know the UK plan having read the 50+ page document in full. I note your decision to disregard all but one sentence of my post. As a result I shall disregard your kind warning and request for a summary of the document, which I have also read. Based on its performance to date, I shall continue to doubt this government's judgement, ability to implement the plan and to effectively communicate with the public. A further 627 deaths recorded today- contrary to the Evening Standard's claim, that does not indicate that "virus deaths continue to fall" and calls into question the reason for the change of strategy at this particular time. Germany's death toll stands at 7661 in total. The Office for National Statistics records the UK total of deaths attributed to the virus as 38,355 in the same period, with a further 1678 patients having died in hospital while Covid-positive. How's that for a comparison?
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