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Post by alicechallice on Jun 23, 2020 23:27:10 GMT
I've watched the first 4 today. Harriet Walter also brilliant in Soldiering On, a better production than the original. Jodie Comer not so good in Her Big Chance. Quite flat, I thought.
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Post by alicechallice on Jun 23, 2020 23:29:45 GMT
Some people on Twitter have already noticed some line cuts - in Her Big Chance and A Lady Of Letters. The latter even came with a trigger warning for people offended by 1980's thoughts and opinions! They cut one of Miss Ruddock's lines about Asians and they've cut all the bitchy remarks Lesley makes about Scott in HBC. Which is a shame because they're so funny. But a bit homophobic now, I suppose.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 24, 2020 7:06:57 GMT
Is that supposed to be a Yorkshire accent from Jodie Comer? And why is it lit so dark? You can barely see her. I had to squint!
Dreadful. Watch the original.
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Post by theatreian on Jun 24, 2020 8:53:51 GMT
The first 2 were great I thought. Imelda and Sarah set a high standard. Their facial expressions as much as their words told the story. I watch in the old fashioned way on normal tv!!
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Post by alece10 on Jun 24, 2020 9:03:41 GMT
Wonderful performances from both actors but I thought Sarah Lancashires performances was stunning. Our Raquel has come a long way.
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Post by crowblack on Jun 24, 2020 9:04:31 GMT
No spoilers but I had to take a breather afterwards it was so powerful! Haven't watched it yet, but the Radio Times listing had the spoiler, so that was thoughtful of them.
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Post by talkingheads on Jun 24, 2020 9:15:30 GMT
The first 2 were great I thought. Imelda and Sarah set a high standard. Their facial expressions as much as their words told the story. I watch in the old fashioned way on normal tv!! Yes I love how the close up can capture so much in a single look. Imelda Staunton just breaks your heart. Watched Playing Sandwiches, a tough text for anyone to tackle. Truthfully I didn't feel it touched the raw power of David Haig but Msamati is a fine actor and adds a certain gravitas, perhaps because Haig had a more hangdog look.
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Post by TallPaul on Jun 24, 2020 9:15:58 GMT
No spoilers but I had to take a breather afterwards it was so powerful! Haven't watched it yet, but the Radio Times listing had the spoiler, so that was thoughtful of them. Maybe it was written by Charles Spencer, eh Jan? 😉
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Post by theatremadness on Jun 24, 2020 11:01:27 GMT
An Ordinary Woman was seriously disturbing, wasn't it? But I could not take my eyes of the screen. Not seen the originals so can't compare (though we should be relishing we now have 2 performances to enjoy instead of pitting them against each other - but that's human nature), but I thought Imelda Staunton was simply outstanding, too. I was completely enthralled. Real stars here are the scripts. Seriously incredible work. You're actually lucky to be seeing these ones first, without the absolute behemoth performances that came before to compare it to. Oh yes, I can't even begin to imagine. Are the originals available anywhere, do you know?
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Post by alece10 on Jun 24, 2020 11:13:56 GMT
You're actually lucky to be seeing these ones first, without the absolute behemoth performances that came before to compare it to. Oh yes, I can't even begin to imagine. Are the originals available anywhere, do you know? Amazon do the DVD £12.49
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Post by talkingheads on Jun 24, 2020 11:34:49 GMT
You're actually lucky to be seeing these ones first, without the absolute behemoth performances that came before to compare it to. Oh yes, I can't even begin to imagine. Are the originals available anywhere, do you know? The DVD is the best way to watch them but if you happen upon Dailymotion they're on there as well.
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Post by theatremadness on Jun 24, 2020 12:06:55 GMT
Thank you, both!
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Post by talkingheads on Jun 24, 2020 12:47:42 GMT
The two Thora Hird monologues A Cream Cracker Under The Settee and Waiting for the Telegram have not been remade, and for good reason - I don't think anybody could do them better, truly astonishing.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jun 24, 2020 12:55:21 GMT
The two Thora Hird monologues A Cream Cracker Under The Settee and Waiting for the Telegram have not been remade, and for good reason - I don't think anybody could do them better, truly astonishing. Thought they were a bit too raw at the moment so left them out.
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Post by talkingheads on Jun 24, 2020 12:58:25 GMT
The two Thora Hird monologues A Cream Cracker Under The Settee and Waiting for the Telegram have not been remade, and for good reason - I don't think anybody could do them better, truly astonishing. Thought they were a bit too raw at the moment so left them out. I thought it was more because they couldn't have any actors of that age range?
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jun 24, 2020 13:00:39 GMT
Thought they were a bit too raw at the moment so left them out. I thought it was more because they couldn't have any actors of that age range? Don't need to look 'too far', Stephanie Cole would be prefect
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Post by theatremadness on Jun 24, 2020 13:15:14 GMT
I thought it was more because they couldn't have any actors of that age range? Don't need to look 'too far', Stephanie Cole would be prefect No, I think talkingheads means actors of that age because of the pandemic we find ourselves in! When these were filmed, I don't think it would have been permitted to have an elderly person come and film in a studio.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jun 24, 2020 13:48:16 GMT
Don't need to look 'too far', Stephanie Cole would be prefect No, I think talkingheads means actors of that age because of the pandemic we find ourselves in! When these were filmed, I don't think it would have been permitted to have an elderly person come and film in a studio. See what you mean
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Post by princeton on Jun 24, 2020 13:55:21 GMT
It's exactly that. Actors of the correct age for the two additional pieces would have been in high risk category when they were filmed. Once there are fewer restrictions perhaps they might think about doing them. I'd love Anne Reid to do Cream Cracker - amazing to think that's she almost ten years older than Thora Hird was when she did the original. Her one-minute piece for the BBC was an hint of what could be.
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Post by craig on Jun 24, 2020 18:32:46 GMT
Watched the first two on BBC1 last night and will watch the rest on iPlayer at my leisure.
Imelda was sensational. She really is becoming an absolute national treasure. She had big shoes to fill, and she managed it.
An Ordinary Woman... WOW. Very disturbing. Such a nuanced, devastating performance from Sarah Lancashire. I was blown away.
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Post by distantcousin on Jun 24, 2020 20:09:32 GMT
It's exactly that. Actors of the correct age for the two additional pieces would have been in high risk category when they were filmed. Once there are fewer restrictions perhaps they might think about doing them. I'd love Anne Reid to do Cream Cracker - amazing to think that's she almost ten years older than Thora Hird was when she did the original. Her one-minute piece for the BBC was an hint of what could be. Yes to Anne! Inspired choice!
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Post by talkingheads on Jun 24, 2020 20:32:08 GMT
Watched The Shrine, and of the two new ones it's my favourite. Both are wonderful but there's a quietness to the grief in The Shrine that bit by bit unfolds to be absolutely shattering.
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Post by distantcousin on Jun 25, 2020 11:11:25 GMT
I've watched the first 4 today. Harriet Walter also brilliant in Soldiering On, a better production than the original. Jodie Comer not so good in Her Big Chance. Quite flat, I thought. Jodie is definitely underplaying it. And her accent is all over the place
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Post by talkingheads on Jun 25, 2020 11:19:17 GMT
I've watched the first 4 today. Harriet Walter also brilliant in Soldiering On, a better production than the original. Jodie Comer not so good in Her Big Chance. Quite flat, I thought. Jodie is definitely underplaying it. And her accent is all over the place It highlights the difficulty of remaking the monologues. They were written for a specific speech pattern and rhythm that some of the actors are avoiding because it would be copying the original. But it means that the words don't roll off the tongue as they should.
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Post by basdfg on Jun 25, 2020 14:18:29 GMT
I wonder if the BBC will pull Maxine Peakes episode from BBC1 after her antisemitic comments.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jun 25, 2020 15:35:32 GMT
I wonder if the BBC will pull Maxine Peakes episode from BBC1 after her antisemitic comments. And all episodes of Dinnerladies will have to be withdrawn
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Post by lynette on Jun 25, 2020 16:09:04 GMT
It’s gonna be ‘she’s a brilliant actress but’ for a long time...
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Post by talkingheads on Jun 25, 2020 20:57:09 GMT
Watched Hand of God and if anybody is equal to Dame Eileen Atkins it's Dame Kristin Scott Thomas. Her face at the end is a masterclass.
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Post by alicechallice on Jun 25, 2020 22:43:24 GMT
I wonder if the BBC will pull Maxine Peakes episode from BBC1 after her antisemitic comments. She didn't make an antisemitic comment.
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Post by sf on Jun 25, 2020 23:12:57 GMT
I wonder if the BBC will pull Maxine Peakes episode from BBC1 after her antisemitic comments. She didn't make an antisemitic comment.
Are you absolutely sure of that?
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