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Post by profquatermass on Jan 16, 2017 11:30:11 GMT
Actually didn't someone on the old board have a go at alan Rickman for not joining in a standing ovation?
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Post by emsworthian on Jan 16, 2017 15:13:00 GMT
I attended a performance of "Blood Brothers" at the Kings Theatre, Southsea, a few years ago and I remember, before the performance started, a woman said to her partner that she had to move her bag as it would get in the way for the standing ovation. I thought it was strange that she had decided to stand for an ovation before the show had begun. For all she knew, the performances might have been dreadful.
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Post by wickedgrin on Jan 16, 2017 15:15:57 GMT
I can remember a time when standing ovations at the end of a show almost never happened in Britain. It's an American thing isn't it?
To me it's only a true standing ovation if everyone spontaneously rises to their feet together at the end of a show.
Mostly though, as expressed above, it is orchestrated by the show or people just have to get up behind those standing to see anything which results in a ripple effect with almost everyone standing eventually.
It should be reserved for outstanding performances - it isn't.
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Post by rumbledoll on Jan 16, 2017 15:22:06 GMT
The more we stand the less valuable it seems.. I wouldn't stand if the entire venue is up and roaring and I feel the production is mediocre. One of the most surreal experience - being the only one seated on the front row at Cumberbatch's Hamlet curtain call - everybody must have thought I'm soft in the head.. But I couldn't care less - you have to deserve my standing ovation. Which btw I'm generous to give when the show genuinely moves me - like I was first up after The Dresser recently, still shaken and blinded by tears but me standing felt like the least I can do to say thank you for that sensational rollecoaster the performers gave me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 15:35:19 GMT
So I'm not alone after all...!
Like some of you, I can remember a time when standing ovations were rare. Now it seems that many audiences have decided they will stand for anything, I suppose as a result of seeing Saturday night TV shows where this is the norm. They are now completely expected. (Didn't Cheryl Cole- please insert up-to-date name- NOT stand for Idina Menzel and then have to justify why? I think she said her dress was too tight. Which sums it up really.)
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Post by Snciole on Jan 16, 2017 16:12:18 GMT
I like what Hoffman said when Olivier died www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/theatre/theatre-features/10863867/The-curse-of-the-standing-ovation.htmlI know I have but I don't really like to! I feel I've been pressured by friends into standing for an actor rather than seeing an amazing performance. When we went to see Amadeus my boyfriend clapped to the floor when the performer he didn't like was on (we were in dress, no feelings would have been hurt) and I think that is the nicest way of showing disapproval but it shouldn't be expected and audiences shouldn't feel bullied into it.
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Post by lynette on Jan 16, 2017 16:32:04 GMT
'Clapped to the floor' - what's that then? I have obviously missed this special language of applause in our theatres.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 23:59:49 GMT
When we went to see Amadeus my boyfriend clapped to the floor when the performer he didn't like was on (we were in dress, no feelings would have been hurt) and I think that is the nicest way of showing disapproval but it shouldn't be expected and audiences shouldn't feel bullied into it. I have to admit I think that's a bit unnecessary - just clap less enthusiastically or not at all, but deliberately pointing to the floor is a bit much in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 0:03:48 GMT
If it's got Tom Bateman in it, I'm up.
Often I'll give it a standing ovation too.
Fnar fnar.
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Post by Snciole on Jan 17, 2017 0:05:10 GMT
'Clapped to the floor' - what's that then? I have obviously missed this special language of applause in our theatres. I think it is just us but instead of clapping at normal high/body level you lower your clapping when the actor you didn't enjoy comes to front. Cruel but strangely satisfactory as they get applause and you've risen against the forced appreciation actors expect.
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Post by mistressjojo on Jan 17, 2017 2:01:24 GMT
It does seem to be more of an American thing in straight theatre , doesn't it ? ( Apologies to any Americans here who are not rampant SO givers - just going by my experience!) I'm not really a musicals goer so can't comment there.
But what does irk me is the 'applause on entrance' thing. I've experienced that a couple of times in London but nearly every show I've seen in NY - and it's annoying! And applause at the end of a scene too. Stop it! As they say at schools awards nights 'please hold your applause till the end of the performance'.
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Post by bee on Jan 17, 2017 7:23:28 GMT
I don’t think I have ever spontaneously jumped to my feet to give a standing ovation. Not because I’m especially hard to please or because I haven’t seen plays that have been worthy of such a response, but basically even the best performance of all time would never be enough to overcome my fear of looking like a bit of a prat by being the only person who stood up.
I have joined in a number of ovations though, when the number of people getting up has reached enough of a critical mass to overcome my fears, or, more often, when the person in front of me has stood up and blocked my view of the stage.
A standing ovation is still pretty rare in my experience though, sounds like it’s more of a thing in musicals (which I rarely go to) rather than in plays.
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Post by viserys on Jan 17, 2017 8:05:26 GMT
But what does irk me is the 'applause on entrance' thing. I've experienced that a couple of times in London but nearly every show I've seen in NY - and it's annoying! And applause at the end of a scene too. Stop it! As they say at schools awards nights 'please hold your applause till the end of the performance'. I agree. There are a few shows (or directors) who manage the entrance of the star so that applause actually works, but often it kills the momentum of said entrance into the scene. I also can't help thinking it's a bit rude towards the co-stars. And what's the point? To acknowledge "Woo, star XY has actually made it onto the stage tonight!" ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 8:24:10 GMT
And what's the point? To acknowledge "Woo, star XY has actually made it onto the stage tonight!" ? [Obvious joke omitted]
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 8:27:10 GMT
But what does irk me is the 'applause on entrance' thing. I've experienced that a couple of times in London but nearly every show I've seen in NY - and it's annoying! And applause at the end of a scene too. Stop it! I recall the first time I ever witnessed that was Kim Cattrall's entrance in 'Private Lives'. I thought I was on Broadway. Strangest one though was (I think) 'When We Are Married' at the Garrick when the reveal of the set got a round of applause!
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Post by rumbledoll on Jan 17, 2017 8:53:32 GMT
Sadly, not only NY, it happens a lot here in Russia - entrance/after the scene applause and even - believe it or not - applause BEFORE the show starts. As if without it the actors would refuse to grace the stage.. Pointless.
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Post by Snciole on Jan 17, 2017 9:46:59 GMT
Didn't people clap the boat in Strange Interlude at the National? I was thinking about when people clap films, when none of the creative team are there to witness it. Are they just clapping the fact that it worked (A particular concern in the BFI)
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Post by mallardo on Jan 17, 2017 9:54:34 GMT
That boat in Strange Interlude was worthy of applause. That was the most impressive set transition ever.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 10:39:00 GMT
I didn't see the boat in question, but I have felt compelled to clap sets before, which when you think about it is nice because it's giving the techies and designers some rare live recognition!
Clapping at films though- argh! I'm very much of the 'shut up and watch it' mentality I'm afraid!
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Post by Snciole on Jan 17, 2017 11:13:10 GMT
That boat in Strange Interlude was worthy of applause. That was the most impressive set transition ever. I get why people went wild, it was the best thing about the play, but if you told non-theatre people that you applauded a set change they would think you had gone mad!
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Post by mallardo on Jan 17, 2017 12:40:29 GMT
Yes, granted, but I also agree with Emi's point above - why not a little recognition for a brilliant piece of set design?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 13:10:50 GMT
And even if the creatives aren't there, the applause will make it into the show report, it can be fed back to them at any time.
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Post by Snciole on Jan 18, 2017 13:14:18 GMT
I do try and mention amazing sets and, at the risk of sounding like a small child, incredible lighting because in fringe especially some stunning lighting can make all the difference to taking the audience out of the realisation they are in an attic in a pub. I still give Es Devlin a free pass for the set mess that was Hamlet because it was lovely but that balcony and how can I hate her after The Nether's simple to extravagant set design.
But to go back on topic a quick hand pointing outwards at the end isn't enough recognition for the backstage crew and if applauding a set gets them more work then may it continue.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 18, 2017 13:45:23 GMT
That crystal curtain in a Dreamgirls is worthy of a mention in the cast list, let alone a round of applause!
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Post by Mr Crummles on Jan 18, 2017 14:22:11 GMT
Yes, granted, but I also agree with Emi's point above - why not a little recognition for a brilliant piece of set design? When I saw Sunset Boulevard in New York, I remember the applause in a scene change in which Norma's mansion landed onto the stage. (John Napier design, I think).
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