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Post by nick on Feb 23, 2020 18:51:15 GMT
"Standing ovations are rude" is not quite the take I was expecting, but OK, you do you! They're rude towards the people behind you, because you force them to stand up if they want to see the finale/bows/whatever you're blocking them from seeing. Yup. My wife can’t stand up and I stay say down in solidarity. Can be mildly annoying but I’m not going to lose sleep over it. There are worse things about using a wheelchair. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 23, 2020 19:27:55 GMT
Actually, it's not. There are the bows, which you are blocking the people behind you from seeing, and there is often a finale/reprise, too. And there are plenty of people who leap to their feet doing a "Oh, look at me giving a standing ovation" performance after individual numbers. Yes...they're bowing because the show is finished...over...finito x If there is a reprise of some kind usually everyone sits back down unless the production wants you to stay standing. I do not give them often, it's rare I see something I think is worthy. But if I do feel it is deserved you bet your ass I'm up out of that chair. Sure a few narcissists are doing it 'look at me' style. Some are just doing it because they feel they should/have to. But if I ever do it it's because the people on that stage deserve it and it has nothing to do with 'me' other than the fact I am thanking the people who have just entertained me. I hate those. It’s always the same “type”. They’re up as soon as they think they can legitimately say the show is over (including during the final number, when it really isn’t) and are there they are, dancing around and jiggling their arses and..what I really hate the most.. looking around at the rest of the seated audience as if to see who else is enough of a fan to be up or persuade people to join them. These are the people who believe themselves to be ‘bubbly’ or ‘good fun at parties’. Sit down dear, you’re boring. |
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Post by intoanewlife on Feb 23, 2020 19:53:23 GMT
They're rude towards the people behind you, because you force them to stand up if they want to see the finale/bows/whatever you're blocking them from seeing. Yup. My wife can’t stand up and I stay say down in solidarity. Can be mildly annoying but I’m not going to lose sleep over it. There are worse things about using a wheelchair. One would think though that anyone with any decency would've noticed the situation and sat down after they'd shown their appreciation. I went to a concert last year and the person behind me was shorter than me so I spent the whole night squatting down so they could see past me lol If I am at a standing concert and someone behind me is shorter I will always swap places and stand behind them. |
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Post by intoanewlife on Feb 23, 2020 20:09:01 GMT
Yes...they're bowing because the show is finished...over...finito x If there is a reprise of some kind usually everyone sits back down unless the production wants you to stay standing. I do not give them often, it's rare I see something I think is worthy. But if I do feel it is deserved you bet your ass I'm up out of that chair. Sure a few narcissists are doing it 'look at me' style. Some are just doing it because they feel they should/have to. But if I ever do it it's because the people on that stage deserve it and it has nothing to do with 'me' other than the fact I am thanking the people who have just entertained me. I hate those. It’s always the same “type”. They’re up as soon as they think they can legitimately say the show is over (including during the final number, when it really isn’t) and are there they are, dancing around and jiggling their arses and..what I really hate the most.. looking around at the rest of the seated audience as if to see who else is enough of a fan to be up or persuade people to join them. These are the people who believe themselves to be ‘bubbly’ or ‘good fun at parties’. Sit down dear, you’re boring. Ouch...but LOL! Me and my theatre buddy call them 'part of the show-ers'. I believe Six, Small Island and Preludes are the only things I stood up for last year. I bolted upright blubbering so quickly at Preludes the cast thanked me for my enthusiam at the bar on the way out lol |
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Post by paulbrownsey on Feb 23, 2020 20:49:12 GMT
They're rude towards the people behind you, because you force them to stand up if they want to see the finale/bows/whatever you're blocking them from seeing. I have yet to meet a performer who doesn't look or feel crestfallen when there is no standing ovation during the bows and finale. You are getting really tiresome trying to labour this point of staying seated during bows and finale. I have yet to see or meet anyone who agrees with you, either on or off the board. The REALLY tiresome people are the selfish so-and-sos who deny those behind them view of the finale and the bows. As for performers craving standing ovations, they should learn to be not so selfish, too. |
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Post by paulbrownsey on Feb 23, 2020 20:51:40 GMT
"it and it has nothing to do with 'me' other than the fact I am thanking the people who have just entertained me." That is to say, you don't give a damn about the people behind you. YOUR chosen way of saying 'thanks' involves contempt for the people sitting behind you. And this encourages all the other bad behaviour people complain about on here. If it's OK to deny the people behind you a view of the bows and finale, why is it not OK to wave your arms during the songs or explain things to the person next to you, both of them impeding the enjoyment of the people behind you? So much selfishness among theatregoers... |
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Post by paulbrownsey on Feb 23, 2020 20:55:49 GMT
"If you're worried about looking at bums, book first row circle or a box, if available." How dreadfully selfish! An alternative solution would be for you to sit in the very back row, where you can go jumpy uppy downy as oftren as you like without impeding anyone else's view. |
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Post by 49thand8th on Feb 23, 2020 20:57:23 GMT
"Standing ovations are rude" is not quite the take I was expecting, but OK, you do you! They're rude towards the people behind you, because you force them to stand up if they want to see the finale/bows/whatever you're blocking them from seeing. Nah, you can sit if you like! |
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Post by intoanewlife on Feb 23, 2020 21:00:54 GMT
"it and it has nothing to do with 'me' other than the fact I am thanking the people who have just entertained me." That is to say, you don't give a damn about the people behind you. YOUR chosen way of saying 'thanks' involves contempt for the people sitting behind you. And this encourages all the other bad behaviour people complain about on here. If it's OK to deny the people behind you a view of the bows and finale, why is it not OK to wave your arms during the songs or explain things to the person next to you, both of them impeding the enjoyment of the people behind you? So much selfishness among theatregoers... I can't even imagine why anyone would have any contempt for you as you seem like such a nice, sweet, pleasant, level headed person. I do hope that I get the pleasure of ruining your night at the theatre some day x |
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Post by basi1faw1ty on Feb 23, 2020 22:30:31 GMT
There's a disturbing surge of animosity between theatregoers in this thread. It's making me a tad uncomfortable.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Feb 24, 2020 9:41:15 GMT
I think we can surely discuss the merits or not of the standing ovation without it becoming unpleasant or personal, no? Let's calm it down a bit shall we?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2020 19:00:50 GMT
"it and it has nothing to do with 'me' other than the fact I am thanking the people who have just entertained me." That is to say, you don't give a damn about the people behind you. For the two minutes that the bows take? No, I'll happily admit I don't give a damn about anyone behind me. You haven't spent the last 2.5 hours entertaining me, the people on stage have. If they have done a fantastic job, then it is my choice to join in the time-honoured tradition of the ovation. Your choice is to do likewise or lean around me. For all of two minutes, if that. If there is a reprise I will sit down again unless the person in front of me is standing. There are plenty of seats in every theatre where you won't be blocked by anyone, and if you don't book those then that's your choice. |
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Post by bengal73 on Feb 24, 2020 23:34:18 GMT
I came across a topic on facebook today along the lines of suggesting it was.poor form not to stand and applaud at the end of a performance as the cast had performed for you for 2 hours.
The majority of responses were of the standing ovations should be earnt nature but a few backed up the thread starter
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 25, 2020 6:23:58 GMT
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Post by alece10 on Feb 25, 2020 16:16:56 GMT
At Prince of Egypt past night I wasnt going to stand but literally everyone in the stalls did immediately at the end so I had to stand as well otherwise I would have completely missed the bows. I didn't mind though as the cast really did work hard.
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Post by tmesis on Feb 25, 2020 17:28:45 GMT
Robert Bathurst on 'In Conversation' with Steve Allen on LBC this week said how much he hated the standing ovation. He also said that most actors do and he resented how much the expectation of it had been more or less forced on to audiences.
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Post by talkingheads on Feb 25, 2020 18:34:04 GMT
If I think a performance deseves one then absolutely I'm giving a standing ovation. All this nonsense about blocking views. The show is over, a cast have worked extremely hard and deserve the praise. Equally I have no qualms about not standing if the show hasn't merited it
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Post by robertb213 on Feb 25, 2020 18:49:49 GMT
If a show or performance has blown me away, I will stand up for it.
If a show was merely good (or worse), I won't.
Just because everyone else stands up, that doesn't mean I will. I am perfectly happy to be the one guy who stays seated (as I was for Pirate Queen this weekend just gone).
If I stayed seated at the end, I was obviously fairly ambivalent towards the show, so why would I mind missing the bows. Especially as it's really not hard to imagine somebody bowing if the view is blocked by someone who has chosen to show their appreciation (in a globally-recognised standard way) by standing up.
I do however agree that standing ovations seem to have become a given now and people seem to stand for everything, almost just because it's finished. Maybe the non-regulars think they have to!
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Post by lynette on Feb 25, 2020 18:57:50 GMT
Just putting in my two pen'arth: I’ve been to four shows recently, all very good and not seen a standing ovation. A couple of people standing here and there.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 25, 2020 20:03:59 GMT
Everybody Rise! Rise! Rise! Riiiiiiiiiiiiiise!  sorry paulbrownsey 😕 |
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Post by theatremadness on Feb 25, 2020 20:10:21 GMT
What do people feel about mid-show standing ovations? They've begun to creep in with show-stopping performances such as Imelda in Gypsy (after Rose's Turn) and Amber Riley in Dreamgirls (after And I Am Telling You...). Groups of people stood up after Stars and BHH in the Les Mis concert, too. There were also a few standers after Ricardo Afonso performed the 11 o'clock number Senor in Zorro over the weekend - but is it any different in a 'proper' concert performance setting (not like Les Mis)?
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Post by Dawnstar on Feb 25, 2020 20:17:13 GMT
There were also a few standers after Ricardo Afonso performed the 11 o'clock number Senor in Zorro over the weekend I was surprised to see that, as I've never seen any mid-show standing before. Yes I thought he nailed the number but it would have never occurred to be to stand up. I'm somewhat ambivalent about end-of-show standing ovations, as I think they are over done nowadays (I did stand at the end of Zorro but that's the first time I've stood at anything for a while), so I'm definitely not keen on mid-show ones. |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Feb 25, 2020 20:19:42 GMT
What do people feel about mid-show standing ovations? They've begun to creep in with show-stopping performances such as Imelda in Gypsy (after Rose's Turn) and Amber Riley in Dreamgirls (after And I Am Telling You...). Groups of people stood up after Stars and BHH in the Les Mis concert, too. There were also a few standers after Ricardo Afonso performed the 11 o'clock number Senor in Zorro over the weekend - but is it any different in a 'proper' concert performance setting (not like Les Mis)? Oooh no. |
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Post by robertb213 on Feb 25, 2020 20:40:20 GMT
I'm quite happy with them if the performance becomes an 'event'. I've only seen 3 in my lifetime though... Amber in Dreamgirls after And I'm Telling You Glenn in Sunset Boulevard after As If We Never Said Goodbye Sara in Waitress after She Used To Be Mine |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2020 20:48:56 GMT
What do people feel about mid-show standing ovations? No. No no no no no no no. Anyone who does that should be crammed full of angry badgers. Quite apart from the "interrupting the show" aspect of it, a standing ovation is supposed to be recognition of something exceptional, and although a complete show may offer enough to justify a standing ovation giving one for a single musical number is setting the bar far too low. It's like giving a long distance runner a gold medal for an excellent 100m in the middle of a marathon. |
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