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Post by steve10086 on Dec 11, 2019 16:46:46 GMT
Up to you, but you’re believing the wrong thing. I saw the show multiple times, saw him jump feet first into the water, and emerge completely drenched. He also used a handheld mic after he returned as he couldn’t wear a mic pack in the water. If you choose to believe he just “chucked some water over himself” then go for it. There's really no need to be aggressive. Is there a video of this costume change out there? Otherwise, I don't think you can way I'm definitively wrong. He would have had to use a handheld mic even if he hadn't been dunked in a tank. Wireless or headset mics can't get wet, neither can wired really but it's far safer. - all Im saying is it's the magic of theatre. You can believe what you think and I will believe what I think until we see it for our own eyes. We will never know the truth. I know the truth. Seems like “you can’t handle the truth”  Not trying to be aggressive, but it’s not my fault you are wrong. I know we live in a world of opinions rather than facts these days, but I’m old fashioned and still prefer facts. |
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Post by steve10086 on Dec 11, 2019 16:47:15 GMT
The costume change in Bat, is it really not than a puddle? - I was pretty sure that he just falls down the hole, they spray a bit of water up to make it look like he's made a splash, quickly does a costume change and chucks some water over himself? - if it is more than that, it should be obvious to the audience, because I was totally confused. Don't get me wrong, I thought the show was fab, but I'd like to see the action in order to be shocked. I watched a documentary recently which explained how they did it - It was more than a puddle and he really does do a quick change completely underwater! Fake news  |
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Post by Playbill99 on Dec 11, 2019 16:51:52 GMT
I watched a documentary recently which explained how they did it - It was more than a puddle and he really does do a quick change completely underwater! Fake news I'm trying to find a link - It was this random documentary about Oxford Street on channel 5 which happened to have the opening night of Bat involved. There was a section of behind the scenes filming and it focused on this illusion quite heavily. Annoyingly I think it was episode 1 of this series and now only episode 2 onward is available on the channel 5 player! |
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Post by NeilVHughes on Dec 11, 2019 17:01:48 GMT
Definitely not a puddle, sat in the front row near the ‘puddle’ and got soaked.
Can’t honestly say I noticed the costume change.
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Post by Marwood on Dec 11, 2019 17:18:03 GMT
What happened to Mammy in The Beauty Queen of Leenane, the erm, ‘snapping’ in Cyprus Avenue and the moment where Paddy Considine (sorry, I forget his characters name) finally snaps at the end of The Ferryman (seems to be an Irish theme developing here 🧐)
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Post by crabtree on Dec 11, 2019 17:23:02 GMT
Funny how we love quick costume changes - helen Mirren had a couple of jaw dropping changes in full view as HM in the Audience.
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Post by TallPaul on Dec 11, 2019 17:23:27 GMT
Fake news I'm trying to find a link - It was this random documentary about Oxford Street on channel 5 which happened to have the opening night of Bat involved. There was a section of behind the scenes filming and it focused on this illusion quite heavily. Annoyingly I think it was episode 1 of this series and now only episode 2 onward is available on the channel 5 player! I was trying to remember where I'd seen it, and yes, that's it, so thanks. It began life as a daytime show on BBC1 called Oxford Street Revealed. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 18:25:43 GMT
The costume change in Bat, is it really not than a puddle? - I was pretty sure that he just falls down the hole, they spray a bit of water up to make it look like he's made a splash, quickly does a costume change and chucks some water over himself? - if it is more than that, it should be obvious to the audience, because I was totally confused. Don't get me wrong, I thought the show was fab, but I'd like to see the action in order to be shocked. I watched a documentary recently which explained how they did it - It was more than a puddle and he really does do a quick change completely underwater! If you can find this, I would love to see it! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 18:28:08 GMT
There's really no need to be aggressive. Is there a video of this costume change out there? Otherwise, I don't think you can way I'm definitively wrong. He would have had to use a handheld mic even if he hadn't been dunked in a tank. Wireless or headset mics can't get wet, neither can wired really but it's far safer. - all Im saying is it's the magic of theatre. You can believe what you think and I will believe what I think until we see it for our own eyes. We will never know the truth. I know the truth. Seems like “you can’t handle the truth” Not trying to be aggressive, but it’s not my fault you are wrong. I know we live in a world of opinions rather than facts these days, but I’m old fashioned and still prefer facts. I think anyone prefers facts but you seem to be on a high horse as if you know all the ins and outs of it and you could be anyone. To say someone's opinion is wrong is a bit gross. |
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Post by steve10086 on Dec 11, 2019 19:56:28 GMT
I know the truth. Seems like “you can’t handle the truth” Not trying to be aggressive, but it’s not my fault you are wrong. I know we live in a world of opinions rather than facts these days, but I’m old fashioned and still prefer facts. I think anyone prefers facts but you seem to be on a high horse as if you know all the ins and outs of it and you could be anyone. To say someone's opinion is wrong is a bit gross. When someone is wrong, it is not wrong to tell them. That’s the problem these days, everyone seems to think their “opinion” is valid when it’s not a matter of opinion but a matter of fact. The fact is you are wrong. Sorry! |
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Post by steve10086 on Dec 11, 2019 21:03:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 21:21:52 GMT
I appreciate you finding this! Totally bonkers! I can see now that I was incorrect with my guess. I wish the pool was more visible from where I was sat in the stalls. I reckon its far more impressive from the front of the circle. However, in future, you cannot just tell someone they are wrong and not have anything to back up your argument and don't call the next person you choose to challenge "daft", it's rude. I'm big enough to take it on the chin but the next person might not be. |
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Post by steve10086 on Dec 11, 2019 22:02:19 GMT
I appreciate you finding this! Totally bonkers! I can see now that I was incorrect with my guess. I wish the pool was more visible from where I was sat in the stalls. I reckon its far more impressive from the front of the circle. However, in future, you cannot just tell someone they are wrong and not have anything to back up your argument and don't call the next person you choose to challenge "daft", it's rude. I'm big enough to take it on the chin but the next person might not be. Would love you to find the post in which I called you “daft”. I called you wrong. You were wrong. I think we now agree you were wrong. But even when you didn’t think you were wrong... you were wrong. That’s how facts work. |
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Post by crabtree on Dec 11, 2019 22:30:32 GMT
how did they stage this in Manchester were presumably they could not dig up the stage.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 22:55:12 GMT
I appreciate you finding this! Totally bonkers! I can see now that I was incorrect with my guess. I wish the pool was more visible from where I was sat in the stalls. I reckon its far more impressive from the front of the circle. However, in future, you cannot just tell someone they are wrong and not have anything to back up your argument and don't call the next person you choose to challenge "daft", it's rude. I'm big enough to take it on the chin but the next person might not be. Would love you to find the post in which I called you “daft”. I called you wrong. You were wrong. I think we now agree you were wrong. But even when you didn’t think you were wrong... you were wrong. That’s how facts work. I apologise. I was getting confused with writing two responses! Someone has called me daft on another thread. Sorry. However, the way you write, even this comment in writing to, is condescending. Thats not nice. Anyway, thanks for the video. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 11, 2019 23:14:59 GMT
how did they stage this in Manchester were presumably they could not dig up the stage. It was exactly the same staging. |
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Post by steve10086 on Dec 11, 2019 23:29:20 GMT
how did they stage this in Manchester were presumably they could not dig up the stage. It was exactly the same staging. The Manchester Opera House, the Coliseum and the Dominion all have huge orchestra pits - that’s where they fitted it all in (and the car that was pushed off stage). First show I’ve seen that really made use of that space in its staging. Makes it very hard to replicate in other theatres though. |
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Post by intoanewlife on Dec 12, 2019 2:04:36 GMT
Seeing The Great Comet for the first time with Josh Groban and the last time with Dave Malloy.
The final monologue in Amy and the Orphans
Billie Piper in Yerma
Frank Langella's in The Father
The Humans final scene
Cabaret Broadway revival final scene
Andy Nyman in Fiddler
Imelda in Gypsy
The blood in View from A Bridge
Preludes re-invention at SPH
Ghost Quartet original cast off Broadway
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 19:13:50 GMT
Now I've got more time...
John Malkovich gently & delicately wrapping up a teapot in a towel as if it was a precious baby, after a huge sweary rant in Burn This, about a million years ago.
Alan Rickman dancing a tango to Pachelbel's Canon with Beatie Edney whilst covered in blood, amid falling cherry blossom in Tango at the End of Winter (omg that whole play was just out of this world...)
The Crucible's Annie Get Your Gun - I loved the whole thing, but I can still see and hear the bit where Dolly Tate (omg I loved her) was all *it's not an eating bird, it's a WEARING BIRD* and *I sewed it up tharrr* and her ridiculous laugh.
RSC's Winter's Tale, my first time in Stratford - production overall was less than memorable, but I can't forget the moment when the giant polar bear rug (which had been spread out on the floor during the court scenes as a fancy rug, and which then got pulled down into the pit when they switched to forest) then rose out of the pit being pulled up by its claws and head, with glowing red eyes, and engulfed poor Whatsisname and dragged him down into the pit for the 'pursued by bear' moment.
The first time I saw Miss Saigon and suddenly remembered, part way through act 2, when she was singing to the boy, that it was based on Madam Butterfly, and that I did actually know how that ended and I realised what was coming.
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Post by harrietcraig on Dec 12, 2019 20:40:38 GMT
The Peter Brook production of A Midsummer Night’s Dream, on Broadway in 1971: the whole thing, but especially Puck (John Kane) on his stilts, shaking hands with people in the first row of the balcony, where I was sitting, at the end of the performance. (Can that actually have been possible? I was there, and that’s how I remember it, so I say it was.)
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Post by lynette on Dec 12, 2019 21:08:08 GMT
The Peter Brook production of A Midsummer Night’s Dream, on Broadway in 1971: the whole thing, but especially Puck (John Kane) on his stilts, shaking hands with people in the first row of the balcony, where I was sitting, at the end of the performance. (Can that actually have been possible? I was there, and that’s how I remember it, so I say it was.) I saw this in Stratford. I don't think there was hand shaking with the balcony! But certainly a memorable production. |
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