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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 13:57:00 GMT
So for the numpty who doesn’t switch to silent, the phone could be ringing in the pouch with no way of switching it off without leaving the auditorium. You know how to stamp on things, don't you?
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Post by intoanewlife on Nov 19, 2019 17:28:06 GMT
The pouch blocks any signal getting to the phone I believe x Not according to the FAQ’s www.overyondr.com/faqSo for the numpty who doesn’t switch to silent, the phone could be ringing in the pouch with no way of switching it off without leaving the auditorium. Hmmm...odd, still if they watch you put it in airplane mode or vibrate that shouldn't happen. I honestly think most phones that go off go off by mistake. In some of the US theatres theres 1,000 people, so 1 or 2 going off over the course of a few hours is not really the problem. For me it is more people who pull them out mid performance and start looking at the internet or updating Facebook or Instagram or filming or taking pictures. When I saw Iceman Cometh on Broadway a few years back, Denzel was delivering the main monologue of the show and the guy across the aisle from me was typing out a rather lengthy email on his phone 10 feet from the stage. There is no way Denzel could not see him, it was quite unbelievable. This guy and his trophy wife who whinged her way through every interva, were there simply to say they saw Denzel Washington, they had no interest in the play itself what so ever.
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Post by frosty on Nov 19, 2019 17:47:30 GMT
Not according to the FAQ’s www.overyondr.com/faqSo for the numpty who doesn’t switch to silent, the phone could be ringing in the pouch with no way of switching it off without leaving the auditorium. Hmmm...odd, still if they watch you put it in airplane mode that shouldn't happen. But an alarm set on a phone will still go off, even if you are in airplane mode
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Post by bex1210 on Nov 19, 2019 22:20:24 GMT
This was used for Chris Rocks most recent arena tour when I was working at Leeds Arena. It went pretty smoothly even for 13.5k people as they made sure there were plenty of stations to go get it unlocked.
Can’t see it taking off for everything though as it is an extra hassle for both customers and staff.
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Post by joem on Nov 19, 2019 23:09:37 GMT
Technology exists to block mobile phone signals. It should be installed in every theatre.
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Post by intoanewlife on Nov 19, 2019 23:18:39 GMT
Technology exists to block mobile phone signals. It should be installed in every theatre. That would not stop the recording or photo problem though.
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Post by Dr Tom on Nov 20, 2019 7:59:59 GMT
Technology exists to block mobile phone signals. It should be installed in every theatre. That would be illegal in the UK.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 20, 2019 8:29:40 GMT
I think they’ve installed it on the quiet at the Palace MCR because I’m buggered if I can ever get a signal in there!
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Post by jess173 on Nov 20, 2019 17:16:20 GMT
I was at a recording of the Late Late Show with James Corden last year. While we were waiting outside they told us that this show they were about to record was special and we were asked to leave our phones in the car. We didn’t have a car so they literally confiscated our phones in exchange for a piece of paper. When the show finished they had two tables full of phones laid out and handed them back to people. Everybody could have just grabbed them and run... I would rather have had a pouch like that at the time.
What was that all for btw? For a „special performance“ of BTS... I wouldn’t have filmed that anyway...
If they ensured that it didn’t slow down the exit from the theatre I would agree to use it but I would not give up my smart watch. It’s monitoring some health data that is important and I always put it into theatre mode so it won’t light up anyway. So phone yes, watch, not so much...
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Post by joem on Nov 20, 2019 18:03:28 GMT
Technology exists to block mobile phone signals. It should be installed in every theatre. That would be illegal in the UK. The law can be changed very easily. if need be. There was obviously no right in law to receive calls in a theatre (or other privately-owned sites) before mobiles were developed, if such a right does indeed exist now it can be abrogated. People who need to be contactable have other means of being contacted other than by mobile phone and people who need to be in constant communication during the course of a performance should simply be somewhere else. Behind the human shield of people doing jobs where they need to be in contact are the vast mass of selfish, inconsiderate mobile users for whom the fact they have a tweet from Rick Astley's fan-club is more important than the quiet enjoyment of a play by 800 people. Phone signal jamming devices are legal in places such as France so its not a human rights issue. Emergency services can be contacted on landlines which theatres still possess. If a law is bad, you change it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 18:33:40 GMT
It might be a bit late to change the law. Everyone would start screaming about "What if I need to update Facebook? What am I supposed to do? Wait?"
The UK's laws on radio are weird. For example, it's perfectly legal to own a radio receiver capable of receiving any frequency you choose (and it's not like they could prevent it, because it's easy enough to build one yourself), but you can't use it to listen to anything that isn't a broadcast signal. There's no way of knowing if someone's breaking the law, but it's illegal all the same.
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Post by intoanewlife on Nov 20, 2019 18:43:49 GMT
Hmmm...odd, still if they watch you put it in airplane mode that shouldn't happen. But an alarm set on a phone will still go off, even if you are in airplane mode Alarms go off even if the phone is off on most phones too so nothing is going to stop those x
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Post by intoanewlife on Nov 20, 2019 19:16:21 GMT
Theatres really need to make better announcements re phones too and make it known they can't be used.
Last night at Six the 2 ushers walked up and down the sides of the theatre with their little laminates like a pair of deaf mutes. Open your mouths people, not everyone is looking at you.
The girl in front of me STARTED texting after the lights went down and I said 3 times rather loudly 'turn off your phone'.
Nothing...she didn't give a sh*t. She was still going after the 'divorced...beheaded...' section had started.
Her Mother did nothing...
Surely no court in the land would've convicted me for decapitating her with a Six program?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 20, 2019 19:27:37 GMT
Last night at Six the 2 ushers walked up and down the sides of the theatre with their little laminates like a pair of deaf mutes. Open your mouths people, not everyone is looking at you. Seen that loads. They do it at Phantom too. Of course some of the audience in the west end will not understand English. So these signs are great for that situation. But most of the audience WILL understand English so why not actually speak to them as well as waving signs? I recounted an experience at &Juliet in MCR where the FOH seemed embarrassed to be telling a punter to stop recording for the THIRD time. I agree with intoanewlife that a different attitude is needed. this is the minority spoiling it for the 90% who do know how to behave. Stop punishing the majority with your stupid pouches and deal assertively with the rule breakers.
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Post by Dr Tom on Nov 20, 2019 22:21:29 GMT
Phone signal jamming devices are legal in places such as France so its not a human rights issue. Emergency services can be contacted on landlines which theatres still possess. If a law is bad, you change it. Having been involved with discussions regarding blocking mobile phone signals in another field in the UK, the way it was explained to me is that this is illegal in the UK as the technology interferes with the frequencies used by emergency services. It may well be that France use a different system for their emergency services. Of course, the processes for implementing new laws in the UK are going to be tied up for years to come with another ongoing issue. Changing the laws on blocking phone signals is never going to be a priority. A lot of schools would love to be able to do that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 23:17:40 GMT
Theatres really need to make better announcements re phones too and make it known they can't be used. Last night at Six the 2 ushers walked up and down the sides of the theatre with their little laminates like a pair of deaf mutes. Open your mouths people, not everyone is looking at you. The girl in front of me STARTED texting after the lights went down and I said 3 times rather loudly 'turn off your phone'. Nothing...she didn't give a sh*t. She was still going after the 'divorced...beheaded...' section had started. Her Mother did nothing... Surely no court in the land would've convicted me for decapitating her with a Six program? She was texting on her phone. What was I meant to do?... Sorry, not sorry.
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Post by MoreLife on Nov 21, 2019 11:34:43 GMT
The case seems to serve no purpose. As many have said, if it doesn't block signals and if someone has left their phone on loud, it could ring and ring and ring until the person leaves the venue, which would be their prerogative unless an usher heard it and would escort them out. Before putting phones in the cases, they could make sure, for definite, that everyone was putting their phone into airplane mode. But this seems like total overkill, to me. It's condescending to regular, well behaved theatregoers. I also think it would put me off going to a show if I knew I was going to be treated like a plebian. Theatre ushers just need to be more proactive, unfortunately, it doesn't seem that many of them care enough or get paid enough to intervene with phone users and possibly cause a scene. Could this work best in immersive shows, possibly? I believe the Yondr case has been designed not so much to prevent people from taking calls, as - perhaps in an ideal world - people would normally be expected to switch their phones off or into flight mode, such that they cannot ring or vibrate during a performance. By contrast, I believe Yondr cases have been designed - and are being used on Broadway right now - with the aim of preventing people from going online during a performance. This is both so: a) people don't go sharing copyrighted material or, in the case of an improv show like Freestyle Love Supreme, material that is created there and then and the value of which lies also in that it is unique and unrepeatable; and b) people can stay focussed on what is happening live before their eyes instead of being distracted by the online world. Reason b) may perhaps look silly to many of us who haven't grown up with a cell phone, but it is pretty significant for the younger generations who at times seem to be inseparable from their phones and social media. Years ago I attended a Mumford and Sons concert where they were premiering some songs ahead of the release of their third album, and we had to leave our phones with the FOH staff before going in. It was remarkable how much closer attention everybody was paying to the music being played and how closer the engagement with the band was, as nobody could give in to the temptation to video a song or the like. Having attended a performance of Freestyle Love Supreme earlier this year, I can just say that it was a super smooth and quick procedure, both going in and leaving the auditorium, and if that can prevent those"could you please turn it off?" directed to your neighbor who is suddenly feeling the urge to check their Insta account or tell their Facebook friends what they're seeing or who the special guest on stage is... I actually see a good deal of positive about it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2019 15:32:21 GMT
The case seems to serve no purpose. As many have said, if it doesn't block signals and if someone has left their phone on loud, it could ring and ring and ring until the person leaves the venue, which would be their prerogative unless an usher heard it and would escort them out. Before putting phones in the cases, they could make sure, for definite, that everyone was putting their phone into airplane mode. But this seems like total overkill, to me. It's condescending to regular, well behaved theatregoers. I also think it would put me off going to a show if I knew I was going to be treated like a plebian. Theatre ushers just need to be more proactive, unfortunately, it doesn't seem that many of them care enough or get paid enough to intervene with phone users and possibly cause a scene. Could this work best in immersive shows, possibly? I believe the Yondr case has been designed not so much to prevent people from taking calls, as - perhaps in an ideal world - people would normally be expected to switch their phones off or into flight mode, such that they cannot ring or vibrate during a performance. By contrast, I believe Yondr cases have been designed - and are being used on Broadway right now - with the aim of preventing people from going online during a performance. This is both so: a) people don't go sharing copyrighted material or, in the case of an improv show like Freestyle Love Supreme, material that is created there and then and the value of which lies also in that it is unique and unrepeatable; and b) people can stay focussed on what is happening live before their eyes instead of being distracted by the online world. Reason b) may perhaps look silly to many of us who haven't grown up with a cell phone, but it is pretty significant for the younger generations who at times seem to be inseparable from their phones and social media. Years ago I attended a Mumford and Sons concert where they were premiering some songs ahead of the release of their third album, and we had to leave our phones with the FOH staff before going in. It was remarkable how much closer attention everybody was paying to the music being played and how closer the engagement with the band was, as nobody could give in to the temptation to video a song or the like. Having attended a performance of Freestyle Love Supreme earlier this year, I can just say that it was a super smooth and quick procedure, both going in and leaving the auditorium, and if that can prevent those"could you please turn it off?" directed to your neighbor who is suddenly feeling the urge to check their Insta account or tell their Facebook friends what they're seeing or who the special guest on stage is... I actually see a good deal of positive about it. You make a good case for it and I can see the positives you've brought up. It just seems like a sad state of affairs.
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Post by clair on Nov 21, 2019 15:52:30 GMT
Do you know what, where I work we are not allowed to have our phones on us unless on breaks - and so far no-one has died from this! People are capable of going for far longer than the time of a show without them so why not have them completely banned in theatres. I for one love the idea of seeing a concert without someone else's arm in the air in front of me desperately recording the show, also why on earth they want to then listen to all the out of tune audience members singing along via their computer is a little beyond me. If you're so important that you HAVE to be reached no matter what and it can't wait 90 minutes or so then you really probably shouldn't be there anyway.
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Post by intoanewlife on Nov 21, 2019 17:15:12 GMT
I for one love the idea of seeing a concert without someone else's arm in the air in front of me desperately recording the show, also why on earth they want to then listen to all the out of tune audience members singing along via their computer is a little beyond me. If you're so important that you HAVE to be reached no matter what and it can't wait 90 minutes or so then you really probably shouldn't be there anyway. I bet 99.99999999% of people who do this never ever watch the video they've recorded and have totally ruined the night for everyone else around them for nothing.
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