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Post by zahidf on Sept 13, 2019 10:04:54 GMT
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Post by NeilVHughes on Sept 13, 2019 10:48:23 GMT
Looking at the programme for 2020 there is a revival of The Seven Streams of the River Ota which was previously staged at the National in 1996.
The performance will last 7 hours and includes two intervals plus a 45-minute dinner break and two pauses.
Wondering if anyone saw this, will go and see it as the masochist side of my interest in Theatre loves a long multi-lingual production.
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Post by bordeaux on Sept 13, 2019 11:03:49 GMT
Looking at the programme for 2020 there is a revival of The Seven Streams of the River Ota which was previously staged at the National in 1996. The performance will last 7 hours and includes two intervals plus a 45-minute dinner break and two pauses. Wondering if anyone saw this, will go and see it as the masochist side of my interest in Theatre loves a long multi-lingual production. I went and I loved it. I saw a few of his shows in the 90s (Tectonic Plates, Needles and Opium,Polygraph), but that lost interest at some stage.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Sept 13, 2019 11:08:09 GMT
Thanks bordeaux , as only a short run ticket availability my only concern but being a member should be OK.
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Post by Phantom of London on Sept 13, 2019 14:08:06 GMT
The National normally do 2 announcements a year, a minor one and a major one. I take it this is minor one, as normally there is a bigger one in the New Year or spring?
Surprised as no revivals have been announced, no Shakespeare, the National haven't done Shakespeare since Anthony & Cleopatra. No English Classic, such as; Harold Pinter, Alan Ayckbourn, Terence Rattican or Noel Coward. No classic American such as; Tennessee Williams, Arthur Miller, Eugene O'Neill or August Wilson.
The National seems to be all about the new play and has been for some time.
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Post by fossil on Sept 13, 2019 15:39:36 GMT
A seven hour production so only to be expected that ticket prices for The Seven Streams of the River Ota are somewhat higher - £125, £95, £75, £58, £30
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Post by fossil on Sept 13, 2019 15:46:59 GMT
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Post by Jon on Sept 13, 2019 15:57:44 GMT
A seven hour production so only to be expected that ticket prices for The Seven Streams of the River Ota are somewhat higher - £125, £95, £75, £58, £30 The top price doesn't seem that expensive considering it's the equivalent of two 3.5 hour plays or 3 2 hour 20 minutes plays.
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on Sept 13, 2019 17:49:59 GMT
Looking at the programme for 2020 there is a revival of The Seven Streams of the River Ota which was previously staged at the National in 1996. The performance will last 7 hours and includes two intervals plus a 45-minute dinner break and two pauses. Wondering if anyone saw this, will go and see it as the masochist side of my interest in Theatre loves a long multi-lingual production. Yes, saw it and loved it as well. Given how Lepage refines his work, there may well be a number of differences in this version. I must get out the programme and ticket and find out how much I paid for it back in 1996!
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Post by crowblack on Sept 13, 2019 18:09:38 GMT
The National seems to be all about the new play and has been for some time. Good - they are publicly funded so I'm glad they're trying to nurture new talent: Miller, Pinter, Williams etc. get plenty of exposure elsewhere.
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Post by Jon on Sept 13, 2019 18:21:06 GMT
The National normally do 2 announcements a year, a minor one and a major one. I take it this is minor one, as normally there is a bigger one in the New Year or spring? Surprised as no revivals have been announced, no Shakespeare, the National haven't done Shakespeare since Anthony & Cleopatra. No English Classic, such as; Harold Pinter, Alan Ayckbourn, Terence Rattican or Noel Coward. No classic American such as; Tennessee Williams, Arthur Miller, Eugene O'Neill or August Wilson. The National seems to be all about the new play and has been for some time. I don't think focusing on new plays is a bad thing, Shakespeare has plenty of outlets so the National doesn't really have to do any of his work at the moment and the others have had productions done elsewhere in the last few years.
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Post by londonpostie on Sept 13, 2019 18:31:30 GMT
I'd like to think the quality of new writing is such that it can't be ignored. Of course the initial writing is developed and honed through a series of stages before we see anything, and perhaps the workshop-type developmental stages have also improved.
Might not have been too many classics, and not too many duds at the National either. After 4 years in charge, all these works now began development during the Rufus Norris era.
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Post by Marwood on Sept 13, 2019 19:15:16 GMT
Tempted by The Visit, but good God, that version of Waiting For Godot at the Barbican with Hugo Weaving and Richard Roxburgh a few years ago was a tedious slog so might just wait until a lot closer to its start date before looking for tickets.
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Post by lynette on Sept 13, 2019 20:07:34 GMT
Apart from the seven hour jobbie, I’m up for most of this lot because of the casting, some real faves in there. OH will be happy. Let’s hope the writing lives up to the acting.
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Post by londonpostie on Sept 13, 2019 20:24:46 GMT
The National seems to be all about the new play and has been for some time. Good - they are publicly funded .. Well, 17% is, or 1/6th. It's not the BBC ..
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Post by lynette on Sept 13, 2019 21:30:37 GMT
Good - they are publicly funded .. Well, 17% is, or 1/6th. It's not the BBC ..
Why new plays? Yes, they have three spaces and one could certainly have a new play in the season but the “National “ theatre should reflect/show off the very best of drama from these islands and from all periods. A showcase. Not a dead case, lots of room for interpretation and so on but the quality should be indisputable not the latest rant from the school of ‘relevant’ speechifying.
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Post by crowblack on Sept 13, 2019 22:29:40 GMT
Well, 17% is, or 1/6th. It's not the BBC .. It's nearly 17 million pa. I wish the BBC would do more original work by new writers too.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Sept 13, 2019 22:42:37 GMT
Currently happier seeing new work at the National as they have a tendency/need to innovate so much in the name of freshness that the nuances and sometimes the genius of the classic is lost as per Miss Julie.
Having seen A Doll’s House at the Lyric Hammersmith tonight and Antic Disposition’s Macbeth a few weeks back, sometimes less is more, none of these were period but clear diction, great acting and an interpretation that supports rather than sensationalises the themes is more than enough.
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Post by crowblack on Sept 13, 2019 22:47:11 GMT
Because the 'old' ones are on everywhere else and dead writers don't need to eat and the most interesting things I've seen in the theatre recently have been new plays.
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Post by Phantom of London on Sept 13, 2019 23:10:36 GMT
Agreed they should do more new work, about time they grapple with a Martin Crimp play.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Sept 13, 2019 23:19:49 GMT
Agreed, more Crimp, his last one is my play of the year and cannot see anything beating it in the next few months, I am definitely not tortured enough and would have liked to have seen it more than the 2 times I managed, cannot remember the last time a play made such a strong impact.
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Post by londonpostie on Sept 14, 2019 5:33:35 GMT
Well, 17% is, or 1/6th. It's not the BBC .. It's nearly 17 million pa. I wish the BBC would do more original work by new writers too. But you're not disagreeing with me?
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Post by crowblack on Sept 14, 2019 8:32:48 GMT
But you're not disagreeing with me? No, not disagreeing with you. I think it's doing a good job showcasing new work and its choices have been better than The Bridge. The Royal Court is tiny and tbh I've found a lot of the things I've seen there disappointing - the NT's new plays have been bold even if they don't always come off (btw, I actually liked the badly-reviewed Common and Tortured). If you want Shakespeare and co., there's the Barbican or Globe, and the 19th and 20thc dead writers are always on somewhere.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Sept 14, 2019 9:14:16 GMT
My view is that the National theatre should represent the totality of our theatrical offerings. That means past, present and future.
New work resonates most when viewed in the context of what has gone before. Old work finds new relevance when contrasted with contemporary reimaginings. And future projects draw on the heritage of what has happened in the past and present.
There is space and time for work of all eras. There is a discussion about balance. But it would be wrong for our National Theatre to focus on just one part.
New writing by existing authors should be part of the mix. But so should plays by dead writers. And there should be opportunities for new voices to emerge.
The only thing the NT must do is focus on quality. That also means acknowledging where things have failed to reach the required standards as well as celebrating successes.
We deserve to see great plays from all eras. A multiplicity of voices not an over reliance on favourites/mates of the current director.
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on Sept 14, 2019 11:02:42 GMT
On The Visit, the English version that has been available by Valency is a complete mess, softening the hard edges and overt theatricality that Duerrenmatt used. Complicite managed to get a good version out of it with the wonderful Kathryn Hunter, though. Hopefully Kushner will put back the anti-realism in his new version. Manville is great casting, so this is a definite must see,
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Post by learfan on Sept 14, 2019 16:02:30 GMT
Well yet again, another NT season announcement, another meh from me, the upcoming stuff later next year doesnt excite either. Oh well, i get to save money. No regrets on cancelling my membership last year.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 20:24:45 GMT
Anyone who opts to sit for 7 hours on those NT seats is a brave soul. My bottom hurts just thinking about it.
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Post by addictedtotheatre on Sept 21, 2019 12:22:07 GMT
Anyone who opts to sit for 7 hours on those NT seats is a brave soul. My bottom hurts just thinking about it. Has anyone on the forum seen this Lepage (Seven Streams of River Ota)? Is it going to be worth my time and money?
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Post by cirque on Sept 21, 2019 13:29:10 GMT
saw the lepage many years back in its first manifestation at edinburgh festival....an out of town venue. wonderful 7 hours plus ofbeautiful theatre. cant wait for new take on this.
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on Sept 21, 2019 13:42:56 GMT
It was very much worth my time and money, can’t speak for anyone else. Maybe the closest parallel is Van Hove’s larger canvases, such as The Roman Plays. Multiple languages with surtitles, different stories with connections between them, building a picture rather than being heavily plotted. Quite ‘cool’ in its emotional temperature, despite its subject matter, it also had a section which was genuinely one of the most emotional things I’ve seen in a theatre, mostly because of its refusal to make itself too dramatic.
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