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Post by karloscar on Mar 2, 2020 22:39:07 GMT
Yeah, Iceland has the strongest entry so far, and I can't imagine anything more appealing coming along. That's if the whole thing doesn't get cancelled due to Corona virus......
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Post by digipal on Mar 5, 2020 20:40:45 GMT
Wonder what the backup plans are if Corona / Covid-19 continues to escalate? I was going to a huge convention / EXPO in Hamburg in April and thats just been cancelled
Appreciate that in the great scheme of things cancelling Eurovision is a "first world problem" however they must be thinking about what to do? Keep calm and carry on, postpone or carry on in an empty arena? When you think that it's an event that brings a huge physical crowd from across Eurpoe and beyond into one city and an arena, they must be thinking about this?
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Post by originalconceptlive on Mar 19, 2020 7:09:51 GMT
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Post by eliza on Mar 19, 2020 8:39:56 GMT
I'm so gutted. I knew it was coming but I was trying to convince myself it would all be over by then. Hopefully I'm still able to go next year. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 18:20:56 GMT
I wonder why they couldn't just postpone for a date later in the year.
Will the same songs be done next year, or will everyone have to submit new entries? Who knows.
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Post by n1david on Mar 19, 2020 18:54:10 GMT
The EBU's story is that EBU staff, the performers etc all have plans for later in the year and it would be difficult to get a venue to commit for a 6-week booking (that's how long it takes) when there's so much uncertainty going on.
They're still looking at rules for songs and artists but it looks like next year will be all new selections - the rules say that songs can't have been released before September the previous year, and there may be a sense that this year's songs all sound a bit tired in a year's time. It's up to national broadcasters whether this year's artists get another shot - some have said that they will use the same artist again, some have just said that they will get another shot at selection.
I'm hoping that they can cobble something together for Eurovision night on TV, even if it's not the contest, it would be nice to have some Eurovision "event" TV to look forward to. Even a repeat of the "Eurovision's Greatest Hits" concert would be fun.
As for tickets, they're talking about rolling them over to 2021. While I was lucky enough to get tickets this year, it seems a bit of a stretch for me to commit in the next month or so for an event in May 2021, given everything we don't know about the next 14 months...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 19:44:30 GMT
@n1david thank you for the info. They really book the venue for 6 weeks?? wow.
Something on Eurovision night would be great. I'd love to see a selection of the various British entries over the years, good and bad. Precious, Imaani, Sonia!
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Post by originalconceptlive on Mar 20, 2020 21:37:38 GMT
There's a bit of talk online of fans organising unofficial Eurovision 'events', such as voting on the 2020 songs anyway, or putting together some kind of shared online streaming night. I'm relatively new to Eurovision so I wouldn't know what the best options out there are, but those looking for a fix might be able to find something.
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Post by n1david on Mar 20, 2020 22:37:35 GMT
The EBU is planning some sort of TV event for Eurovision night, not a competition, but some sort of event that will showcase the 2020 songs. By doing so, they have confirmed that this year's songs will not be eligible for 2021.
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Post by theatreian on Mar 25, 2020 10:44:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2020 8:09:56 GMT
Presumably this will be part of that show?
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Post by theatreian on May 4, 2020 15:22:08 GMT
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Post by basdfg on May 7, 2020 12:33:09 GMT
The Dutch government has banned all major events until there is a vaccine.
In response the host broadcaster has said- 'We understand that everyone wants to know what the corona measures mean for events like the Eurovision Song Contest 2021. Obviously, health of the participants, staff members and visitors comes first." City of Rotterdam, EBU and NPO will discuss the statement of the government. "It is too early to communicate a decision about organizing ESC 2021 and how it will look like. We will let you know more later this month."'
Get the feeling their might give up their hosting rights for 2021. Will anywhere else even want to commit to taking over as host not knowing how the next year will be.
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Post by n1david on May 7, 2020 12:58:15 GMT
It would certainly be nice to know what was happening with tickets. The fan package was about £800 which is a lot of money to be outstanding for an indefinite period of time. I understand that they hoped that they would be able to rollover everything, same venue so same seating plan and keeping the same tickets, but the longer it goes on the less likely that appears to be.
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Post by alece10 on May 7, 2020 12:59:13 GMT
The Dutch government has banned all major events until there is a vaccine. In response the host broadcaster has said- 'We understand that everyone wants to know what the corona measures mean for events like the Eurovision Song Contest 2021. Obviously, health of the participants, staff members and visitors comes first." City of Rotterdam, EBU and NPO will discuss the statement of the government. "It is too early to communicate a decision about organizing ESC 2021 and how it will look like. We will let you know more later this month."' Get the feeling their might give up their hosting rights for 2021. Will anywhere else even want to commit to taking over as host not knowing how the next year will be. Wouldn't surprise me if Eurovision never returns and this will be a good opportunity to call it a day. Most countries can't afford to host it anyway and with everyone about to go into another recession I think they will want to spend their money elsewhere. |
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Post by TallPaul on May 7, 2020 13:25:56 GMT
One again, basdfg, if you are going to post this type of thing, please include the source so we can all judge the veracity for ourselves. Many thanks |
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Post by basdfg on May 7, 2020 13:30:56 GMT
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Post by vickyg on May 7, 2020 13:44:04 GMT
The Dutch government has banned all major events until there is a vaccine. In response the host broadcaster has said- 'We understand that everyone wants to know what the corona measures mean for events like the Eurovision Song Contest 2021. Obviously, health of the participants, staff members and visitors comes first." City of Rotterdam, EBU and NPO will discuss the statement of the government. "It is too early to communicate a decision about organizing ESC 2021 and how it will look like. We will let you know more later this month."' Get the feeling their might give up their hosting rights for 2021. Will anywhere else even want to commit to taking over as host not knowing how the next year will be. Wouldn't surprise me if Eurovision never returns and this will be a good opportunity to call it a day. Most countries can't afford to host it anyway and with everyone about to go into another recession I think they will want to spend their money elsewhere. I couldn't agree less! There have been global recessions before and Eurovision has always found a place. It has millions of fans and even managed to succeed last year despite the absolutely appalling organisation. Year on year it's verging on impossible to get a ticket. It's never going to be the case that there will be no live music events and Eurovision will have to follow suit in terms of changes required to hold a safe event, but while there are likely to be struggles in 2021, there's no reason for issues to continue indefinitely. |
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Post by n1david on May 7, 2020 13:56:10 GMT
Agree with vickyg - the scale of the competition might have to change for a few years and the EBU may have to fund it centrally, moving away from national TV hosts and become a smaller event again, but for it to end would be perceived as making an entirely unhelpful statement about "the European project" (which is, in this case, as everyone knows, not the same thing as the EU) |
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Post by alece10 on May 7, 2020 14:06:38 GMT
Dont get me wrong I am a massive Eurovison fan. Been watching it since the days of black and white TV and in the 80s when I lived abroad I got sent video recordings of it. I was at Eurovision Greatest Hits 60th Anniversary concert in Hammersmith and went every year to Westend Eurovision.
So I dont want to see it end just think it might.
Hopefully I am wrong.
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Post by Jon on May 7, 2020 14:38:27 GMT
Agree with vickyg - the scale of the competition might have to change for a few years and the EBU may have to fund it centrally, moving away from national TV hosts and become a smaller event again, but for it to end would be perceived as making an entirely unhelpful statement about "the European project" (which is, in this case, as everyone knows, not the same thing as the EU) I agree, no chance Eurovision will end. |
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Post by basdfg on May 7, 2020 14:57:47 GMT
The EBU wont be able to afford to fund it centrally unless it was so basic like several weekly semi finals building up 12-16 countries in a final. The upcoming global recession will heavily effect the funds of the broadcasters of Europe- some might well quit or be suspended from the EBU if things get dire for them so they won't be the the ability to get many to contribute more to the EBU.
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Post by n1david on May 7, 2020 15:01:14 GMT
The EBU wont be able to afford to fund it centrally unless it was so basic like several weekly semi finals building up 12-16 countries in a final. And I said the scale of the competition might have to change. What's your point? |
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Post by basdfg on May 7, 2020 15:05:23 GMT
The EBU wont be able to afford to fund it centrally unless it was so basic like several weekly semi finals building up 12-16 countries in a final. And I said the scale of the competition might have to change. What's your point? If it becomes more basic the type of songs that would suit cheaper production values would change too. |
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Post by TallPaul on May 7, 2020 16:04:42 GMT
Looking at the FAQ section of eurovision.tv, the 'Participating Broadcasters' pay a combined total of €6.2 million, which seems like an absolute bargain for 2 semi-finals of over two hours each, and the final, which can often be four hours long (and feel even longer).
Then the host broadcaster tops-up the pot with anywhere between €10 and €20 million.
Plus there are contributions from the host city/country, along with commercial revenue, which includes televoting and those £800 ticket packages.
Maybe 2021 should be Australia's year, with just the contestants flying in early on a charter flight, before spending two weeks in quarantine. Even if the arena audience consists entirety of Sydneysiders, or wherever, it's not as though the acts would lack 'local' support!
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