ALW's Cinderella - Gillian Lynne / U.K. Tour (rumour)

I don’t know why you’re firing all these slogans at me including the bizarre Markle reference.

You called me out on nothing you revealed a lot about yourself though.

I suggest you get your dictionary out because you don’t know the definition of Hotchpotch.

I’m delighted for you that you want to see the best people cast which you slip in at the end of every post while spending the preceeding lines to hysterically attack people for wanting diverse casting and suggesting that to do so would be confusing and insinuating that diverse casting would somehow be less.

Your structure is the definition of gaslighting and Im sorry if you don’t like the analysis of your posts.

And I like the subtle comment about speaking, ‘which I’m free to do’ as if someone is trying to restrict you. No one is.

And to put it plainly for you, the best people for the part are the ones that can get in the room and show their talents and who are judged solely on their talent.

@shirleydevore Sorry to put it bluntly but I'm finding this conversation boring. You don't like CHF clearly. You believe in a transparent and open casting process to ensure access to auditions for all.
The industry doesn't work this way (for as long as there are bankable stars).
Life is rarely fair, but as a producer if ALW wants to use (or create) a platform for stars, this is his choice.
Ivano Turco (and Tyrone Huntley in workshops) are both proof that talent is what really matters when auditioning or casting.
Move on - throwing jibes at me just because I don't share your view doesn't achieve much.

I did! Was indeed ages ago. Hence have no idea if I paid then or can expect to soon!

I'm still a bit confused by how Ivano was cast tbh — I know he was auditioning as ensemble, so presumably ALW auditioned ensemble before leads?

That seems really weird to me, because I'd have thought you'd have picked your preferred male lead, then your second choice (and maybe 3rd) would have been offered first refusal on ensemble and 1st/2nd cover.

I'm really looking forward to the highlights album — they put a picture up of crossed-out song names when they released IKIHAH, and one was really really long. I'm desperate to know what it is! And hear more music of course.

The ironic thing with people who accuse others as being offended are actually the people who cannot take any challenge to their point of view.

The only person ‘throwing jibes’ being antagonist and defensive is you Sir, as your posts prove.

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“ There will always be people who demand proportional representation in casting... I'd begrudge paying £90 to see a hotpotch cast just because the PC brigade want to tick boxes.

How the hell can the word hotchpotch be offensive except to somebody looking to pull the "I'm offended" lever? Go back and read your post.

fuel your misappropriated ire once more. You are reading what you want to read, believing what you want to believe, and twisting words to carve out the narrative that you want to see, as it suits your own personal agenda.

but I'll be damned if I'll accept the slurs you've made. By all means, have a viewpoint. Respect others enough to have theirs, and come up with a more mature standpoint than pseudo mock-offence at an inoffensive message.

Your logic suggests you lack confidence in the best people for the job being from a background that is acceptable or comfortable to you. This is in itself a subliminal race agenda on your part, decrying the fact that a perfectly suitable and capable proven white actress should somehow not be allowed to fulfil the role they've workshopped for several years "just because".

By all means have a view - just articulate it better.

Straight from the Meghan Markle school of diplomacy. I'm all good, thanks. Just called you out for your comments, which I'm free to do (as you are to me).

Move on - throwing jibes at me just because I don't share your view doesn't achieve much.

And yes, I'm a white, straight male so I guess I'm just ignorant as a result of my heterosexual middle of the road not quite boomer privileged blandness”.

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And I don’t dislike Carrie, she’s good at what SHE does.

It’s not personal, it’s theatre criticism.

Have a great weekend.



P.S. You say numerous times, if BAME actors have the talent, THEY DO!

How did he come to cast Ivano Turco then Seriously? I thought he picked him from dance/ensemble auditions? Or are you saying he cast (then dropped) somebody else in favour of him?

I'm not particularly well up on audition processes (and I presume they differ from show to show anyway), so feel free to explain it as if you're talking to an eight year old!

They went through the usual process of auditioning principals, but they stressed they weren't sure what they were looking for in the casting. Whilst that was going on, he was spotted in the separate ensemble auditions.

Ah thank you, that makes sense!

Does no one on this board have an inkling of the story from the workshop? Someone must’ve spilled somewhere. Come on people we can solve this mystery!
I have a little theory about the revolve...
Every good story starts at the heart of the action
Maybe at the start of the show the audience in the revolve section are part of a clock dial which rotates to strike midnight. Or reverses back from midnight to an alternate story line. And if this isn’t what you were doing Andrew I’m available as show consultant 😉

Isn't the twist of this that the Prince is actually gay? Isn't that what the very first post of this WHOLE thread says? Isn't that what we've all been saying for nearly two years?

Honestly, the secrecy and "whatever you think this is going to be, it isn't" is getting really boring. I think it's gonna be naff, and they're not doing much to convince me otherwise...