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Feb 20, 2024 10:50:14 GMT
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Post by theatrelover97 on Feb 20, 2024 10:50:14 GMT
Sorry to bump an old thread but is anyone shocked so many theatres are still card only when during the last year or so there has been a major revival of cash use. Where I live in London only chains shops or shops targeting higher income people accept cards - everything else is still cash only despite the last remanining bank closing soon.
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Post by nick on Feb 20, 2024 11:46:17 GMT
Sorry to bump an old thread but is anyone shocked so many theatres are still card only when during the last year or so there has been a major revival of cash use. Where I live in London only chains shops or shops targeting higher income people accept cards - everything else is still cash only despite the last remanining bank closing soon. I’m shocked so many shops still only accept cash. Where I live in London (Catford so not posh) I’d say most shops accept cards and a significant number only accept card payment.
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Feb 20, 2024 11:49:57 GMT
Post by n1david on Feb 20, 2024 11:49:57 GMT
I can't remember the last time I used cash other than to pay a tradesperson doing work in my home.
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Feb 20, 2024 11:57:41 GMT
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Post by theatrelover97 on Feb 20, 2024 11:57:41 GMT
Sorry to bump an old thread but is anyone shocked so many theatres are still card only when during the last year or so there has been a major revival of cash use. Where I live in London only chains shops or shops targeting higher income people accept cards - everything else is still cash only despite the last remanining bank closing soon. I’m shocked so many shops still only accept cash. Where I live in London (Catford so not posh) I’d say most shops accept cards and a significant number only accept card payment. I think it might be cultural. Most of the cash only shops are owned by people of South Asian heritage where i think cash usage is still higher. Many of them have posters of the GB News keep cash campaign in their window. The only places to top up oyster cards outside of stations near me are cash only.
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Feb 20, 2024 12:01:15 GMT
Post by londonmzfitz on Feb 20, 2024 12:01:15 GMT
Every couple of months I get £20 of .50p coins from the bank. I like to tip my regular morning coffee haunt (and I'll always look for one of the picture / commemorative .50p's which I keep (not collect, just like to have them) although I've only ever had 1 or 2 out of 40 coins).
I'll tip cash to my hairdresser, that's about it. I've made a first appointment with a local chiropodist next week and was told over the phone she prefers cash payment but will take cards if she has to. Immediately my head went to money laundering / tax avoidance.
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Feb 20, 2024 12:32:26 GMT
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Post by theatrelover97 on Feb 20, 2024 12:32:26 GMT
Also near me the supermarkets are getting rid of the self service card only tills and replacing them with cash accepting ones or manned tills because not enough people wish to pay in self srrvice machine with card. It's chaos in the shops that only have limited cash tills like Pound land and Living as the majority seem to want to pay cash.
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Post by marob on Feb 20, 2024 13:41:29 GMT
I also get suspicious when I see cash only businesses.
I would have said we should ditch cash so that all purchases/services/whatever are traceable and as a way of ending tax dodging.
But then there’s the whole Post Office thing. We’re really not good at all at IT systems.
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Feb 20, 2024 13:46:02 GMT
Post by Jon on Feb 20, 2024 13:46:02 GMT
I also get suspicious when I see cash only businesses. I would have said we should ditch cash so that all purchases/services/whatever are traceable and as a way of ending tax dodging. But then there’s the whole Post Office thing. We’re really not good at all at IT systems. Cash only businesses in my eyes suggests money laundering or not paying taxes.
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Post by mrnutz on Feb 20, 2024 13:50:40 GMT
Sorry to bump an old thread but is anyone shocked so many theatres are still card only when during the last year or so there has been a major revival of cash use. Where I live in London only chains shops or shops targeting higher income people accept cards - everything else is still cash only despite the last remanining bank closing soon. Where do you live in London because this has certainly not been my experience!
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Feb 20, 2024 13:53:19 GMT
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Post by theatrelover97 on Feb 20, 2024 13:53:19 GMT
Sorry to bump an old thread but is anyone shocked so many theatres are still card only when during the last year or so there has been a major revival of cash use. Where I live in London only chains shops or shops targeting higher income people accept cards - everything else is still cash only despite the last remanining bank closing soon. Where do you live in London because this has certainly not been my experience! East London.
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Feb 20, 2024 13:55:59 GMT
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Post by theatrelover97 on Feb 20, 2024 13:55:59 GMT
I also get suspicious when I see cash only businesses. I would have said we should ditch cash so that all purchases/services/whatever are traceable and as a way of ending tax dodging. But then there’s the whole Post Office thing. We’re really not good at all at IT systems. I think usage of cash has been increasing recently partly because of the Keep Cash campaign as well as the rising cost of living. Apparently in some parts of the country many businesses have been switching to cash only. And that obviously makes people there use cash more widely.
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Feb 20, 2024 14:11:31 GMT
Post by Jon on Feb 20, 2024 14:11:31 GMT
I also get suspicious when I see cash only businesses. I would have said we should ditch cash so that all purchases/services/whatever are traceable and as a way of ending tax dodging. But then there’s the whole Post Office thing. We’re really not good at all at IT systems. I think usage of cash has been increasing recently partly because of the Keep Cash campaign as well as the rising cost of living. No it hasn't, the Keep Cash Campaign is on a channel with few viewers. People aren't going to abandon using contactless or cards in favour of cash.
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Feb 20, 2024 14:16:43 GMT
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Post by theatrelover97 on Feb 20, 2024 14:16:43 GMT
I think usage of cash has been increasing recently partly because of the Keep Cash campaign as well as the rising cost of living. No it hasn't, the Keep Cash Campaign is on a channel with few viewers. People aren't going to abandon using contactless or cards in favour of cash. https://www.reddit.com/r/northernireland/comments/17oi9xf/i_absolutely_hate_all_these_businesses_going_cash/ www.reddit.com/r/AskUK/comments/u4yglm/why_has_every_local_takeaway_switched_to_cash_only/I think it's very regional and demographic based.
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Feb 20, 2024 14:19:42 GMT
Post by Jan on Feb 20, 2024 14:19:42 GMT
I think usage of cash has been increasing recently partly because of the Keep Cash campaign as well as the rising cost of living. No it hasn't, the Keep Cash Campaign is on a channel with few viewers. You are wrong, use of cash HAS been increasing recently. In 2023 use of cash increased for the first time in a decade up to 19% of all transactions from 15% in 2021. This was quite widely reported. On what did you base your claim that it hasn't been increasing ?
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Feb 20, 2024 14:28:41 GMT
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Post by theatrelover97 on Feb 20, 2024 14:28:41 GMT
No it hasn't, the Keep Cash Campaign is on a channel with few viewers. You are wrong, use of cash HAS been increasing recently. In 2023 use of cash increased for the first time in a decade up to 19% of all transactions from 15% in 2021. This was quite widely reported. On what did you base your claim that it hasn't been increasing ? Probably because they themselves don't use much cash they have not noticed the increase. The cashless theaters will find if it continues to rise that people will start turning up more and more without a card on them. In some European countries it is illegal in some circumstances for a bussiness to refuse to accpet cash but I am not sure it applies to the selling of ice cream at theaters
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Feb 20, 2024 14:37:32 GMT
Post by Jon on Feb 20, 2024 14:37:32 GMT
The theatre is one of the few places where nobody would bat an eyelid with using card or contactless.
To me, you're more at risk of getting mugged by carrying loads of cash with you which is why I personally don't carry much if any cash with me.
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Feb 20, 2024 14:42:02 GMT
Post by Jan on Feb 20, 2024 14:42:02 GMT
Furthermore the fact that the Keep Cash Campaign is on GB News doesn't mean it's not quite widely known about. It is discussed on social media, has been championed by at least one national newspaper, and by corporate entities like the Post Office, and several charities like Age UK, and the consumer organisation Which ?
Personally I heard about it because a bunch of their more militant supporters disrupted traffic on Hammersmith Broadway the other day.
Also of course GB News has quite a wide reach even though the high-status view is to disapprove of it and hope no-one is watching. Its news website has an audience of 8 million which is 16% of the population (BARB) and its TV News has a bigger audience than Sky News in some slots.
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Post by n1david on Feb 20, 2024 15:00:12 GMT
Its news website has an audience of 8 million which is 16% of the population (BARB) Although its website audience is not exclusively UK-based, given the number of right-wingers in the US who quote it assuming it represents the UK. So expressing it as a percentage of the UK population isn't appropriate. From an article in June 2023:
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Feb 20, 2024 15:02:09 GMT
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Post by oxfordsimon on Feb 20, 2024 15:02:09 GMT
My sister runs a bakery/deli/coffee shop and still very much prefers cash. Yes, she has to make the occasional trip to get change but that is still cheaper than having to pay the transaction charges that come with every card payment.
She has a card machine and it is in regular use. But with cash she gets to keep all the income rather than giving a percentage/fixed to the service provider.
Yes, cards are very convenient. But small traders with relatively low margins do notice the extra costs that card transactions bring particularly with lower average spends per customer.
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Feb 20, 2024 15:05:48 GMT
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Post by aingidh on Feb 20, 2024 15:05:48 GMT
I work FOH at a regional rep theatre, we've recently made the switch to card only for programmes/ice creams. Bars and the foyer kiosk still take cash.
The main reason for this was the cashing up process was quite stressful for the ushers, having to keep a tally of all the cash transactions to put through at the end. The card machine has a mobile version of the till software we use so card transactions were accounted for, but having that as well as cash made it quite difficult.
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Post by Jon on Feb 20, 2024 15:15:06 GMT
I find it very hard to believe that businesses are switching to cash only. Unless you're a very small business or a market trader, cutting off people who use card or contactless is 1. cutting your potential revenue 2. will attract attention from HRMC.
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Feb 20, 2024 15:21:27 GMT
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Post by theatrelover97 on Feb 20, 2024 15:21:27 GMT
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Feb 20, 2024 17:17:44 GMT
Post by sph on Feb 20, 2024 17:17:44 GMT
I think if the issue with rejecting card payments is the transaction fees, then that's the fight we should be fighting! Greedy banks and other companies taking larger cuts from transactions even from smaller traders.
As for carrying cash? I don't, really. I have maybe a fiver at most in my wallet just in case, a little emergency cash in my house should my card get stolen or have to be suddenly cancelled, but aside from that I never use it.
And those that do insist on using it everywhere? Why? Why are you withdrawing so much cash and carrying it around with you? If it gets stolen it's gone! A card can be cancelled and subsequent transactions can be flagged as fraudulent. Cash is just gone!
I even find the argument from some that it helps them keep track of their spending to be odd. Does it? I suppose it limits what you can spend, but using a card will mean that you can see a real-time list of recent transactions whenever you want, so you know exactly what you're spending and where you've spent it. With cash what are you doing? going through handfuls of paper receipts?
Contactless is great but can be a pain if you're working on a till. So many customers tap their cards and casually wander off before waiting for the transaction to be approved. If it says "insert card" or is declined, you literally have to go chasing after them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2024 17:58:46 GMT
I would personally avoid any business that is cash only. I barely carried cash pre-pandemic, and nowadays I have a £5 note in my wallet that has been in there for over 12 months as I pay for everything using Apple Pay.
I am massively concerned with Age UK encouraging 'keep the cash' as the elderly with cash is the primary target for scammers and muggers, surely they would be better off with education campaigns on the benefits of not carrying cash?
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Feb 20, 2024 18:14:41 GMT
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Post by sph on Feb 20, 2024 18:14:41 GMT
I read a couple of articles there on the elderly wanting to use cash as they might not find apps easy to use, which is fair enough - but they can still use a plastic card. The argument that it is easier for the elderly to use cash doesn't seem to have any solid reasoning behind it other than "it's what they grew up with, so they're used to it". Cash is no safer or easier to use than a debit card in practise.
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