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Post by Mark on Apr 9, 2019 11:36:04 GMT
Too Soon? Shaping up to be quite a busy year already, with I'm sure a lot more to be announced.
New Musical:
& Juliet Big Dear Evan Hansen On Your Feet The Secret Diary of Adrian Mole Aged 13 ¾ Waitress
Musical Revival
Evita (Regent's Park) Fiddler on the Roof Joseph & the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat Man of La Mancha Mary Poppins Sweet Charity White Christmas
Plays Too many to list all but here are some bluesky predictions for potential nominees. New: Downstate, Fairview (YV), Bitter Wheat Revival: All My Sons, Death of a Salesman, Betrayal.
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Apr 9, 2019 11:44:25 GMT
Oooo it really is a year for the Musical Revivals isn't it! I know half of them haven't opened yet, but that Best Musical catagory makes me really sad for some reason. Dear Evan Hansen will obviously win.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 11:48:03 GMT
I mean, DEH has no real competition there! 😂
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Post by sparky5000 on Apr 9, 2019 11:54:11 GMT
I love a good early prediction thread, if only to look back and see how wrong we were 😆 From that list I can see the following being nominated, with no idea for the 4th:
New Musical:
- Dear Evan Hansen - will win - Waitress - & Juliet
Revival:
- Mary Poppins - will win - Fiddler on the Roof - Joseph
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Apr 9, 2019 11:55:49 GMT
I love a good early prediction thread, if only to look back and see how wrong we were 😆 From that list I can see the following being nominated, with no idea for the 4th: New Musical: - Dear Evan Hansen - will win - Waitress - & Juliet Revival: - Mary Poppins - will win - Fiddler on the Roof - Joseph oh see I disagree, I think Fiddler will win Revival fairly easily.
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Post by sparky5000 on Apr 9, 2019 11:58:40 GMT
I love a good early prediction thread, if only to look back and see how wrong we were 😆 From that list I can see the following being nominated, with no idea for the 4th: New Musical: - Dear Evan Hansen - will win - Waitress - & Juliet Revival: - Mary Poppins - will win - Fiddler on the Roof - Joseph oh see I disagree, I think Fiddler will win Revival fairly easily. Yeah maybe. But I think never discount the enthusiasm for Mary Poppins in this country!
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Apr 9, 2019 12:00:06 GMT
oh see I disagree, I think Fiddler will win Revival fairly easily. Yeah maybe. But I think never discount the enthusiasm for Mary Poppins in this country! I agree, and there is alot of hype surrounding it. I almost guarantee Petula, Charlie and Zizi will all receive nominations.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 12:00:56 GMT
Would Charlie Stemp slot into Best Actor or Best Supporting Actor in a Musical for Poppins?
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Apr 9, 2019 12:03:07 GMT
Would Charlie Stemp slot into Best Actor or Best Supporting Actor in a Musical for Poppins? He is Actor as that is where that role has been in prior years. It'll be a shame that Charlie loses yet another Olivier because the actor who plays Evan is a lock pretty much on role alone. Charlie should of won for Sixpence, it's not even an arguement, much as I loved Andy Karl!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 12:04:39 GMT
OFAH is also eligible, right?
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Apr 9, 2019 12:08:10 GMT
OFAH is also eligible, right? no it was eligible this year. LOL. 😂😂
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Post by Phantom of London on Apr 9, 2019 12:08:42 GMT
I wouldn’t second guess the Olivier Awards, Dear Evan Hansen appeals to the young primary, the Olivier voting committee certainly isn’t this.
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Post by Phantom of London on Apr 9, 2019 12:09:38 GMT
What is OFAH?
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Apr 9, 2019 12:09:56 GMT
I wouldn’t second guess the Olivier Awards, Dear Evan Hansen appeals to the young primary, the Olivier voting committee certainly isn’t this. which show would you point to as their choice of those eligible productions then? With that mindset?
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Post by sparky5000 on Apr 9, 2019 12:11:50 GMT
Yeah maybe. But I think never discount the enthusiasm for Mary Poppins in this country! I agree, and there is alot of hype surrounding it. I almost guarantee Petula, Charlie and Zizi will all receive nominations. I wanna see Petula in the role first, but for sure Charlie and Zizi will no doubt get noms! I’ll bet Sheridan is a lock for Joseph as well.
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Post by Phantom of London on Apr 9, 2019 12:14:01 GMT
I wouldn’t second guess the Olivier Awards, Dear Evan Hansen appeals to the young primary, the Olivier voting committee certainly isn’t this. which show would you point to as their choice of those eligible productions then? With that mindset? We cannot rule out shows we know nothing about yet, & Juliet could be a horse of that colour.
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Post by Phantom of London on Apr 9, 2019 12:14:56 GMT
which show would you point to as their choice of those eligible productions then? With that mindset? We cannot rule out shows we know nothing about yet, & Juliet could be a horse of that colour. Who would have thought that Groundhog Day would have snagged best musical.
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Post by sparky5000 on Apr 9, 2019 12:15:26 GMT
Only Fools And Horses I think
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Apr 9, 2019 12:16:42 GMT
We cannot rule out shows we know nothing about yet, & Juliet could be a horse of that colour. Who would have thought that Groundhog Day would have snagged best musical. I actually think Groundhog was the obvious winner that year and the deserved winner considering the hype, the reviews etc. I agree though we need to see what the situation is with & Juliet but it doesn't seem like a show that is aimed at the older generation any more than Evan Hansen is on face value alone.
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Post by LaLuPone on Apr 9, 2019 12:22:03 GMT
Maybe a stupid question but is Mary Poppins actually a “revival” if it’s just going to be the same production as last time, or a cut back version even! I assumed that a revival nominee has to be a “new” production? Wouldn’t this be like Chicago at the Phoenix being nominated for revival?
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Apr 9, 2019 12:28:27 GMT
Maybe a stupid question but is Mary Poppins actually a “revival” if it’s just going to be the same production as last time, or a cut back version even! I assumed that a revival nominee has to be a “new” production? Wouldn’t this be like Chicago at the Phoenix being nominated for revival? Poppins would be considered a revival because it is not the exact same production that played in London, it is the touring production and also they are putting changes into the show such as more for Petula to do so it would naturally be considered a revival for those reasons. I still think it's bullsh*t Dreamgirls was considered a New Musical but you know, you win some, you lose some. 😂😂
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 12:40:54 GMT
Categories can be weird sometimes. Half a Sixpence for example was nominated as New Musical at the WOS Awards, and as Revival at Broadwayworld UK. That was a tricky one to catalogue.
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Apr 9, 2019 12:44:01 GMT
Categories can be weird sometimes. Half a Sixpence for example was nominated as New Musical at the WOS Awards, and as Revival at Broadwayworld UK. That was a tricky one to catalogue. Half a Sixpence was a true Revival as they literally revived the whole show but still kept the basis. Dreamgirls has been around for literally decades. I get that it hasn't been on the West End before, but it's still some bullsh*t that ended up in the Best NEW Musical catagory. f***ery.
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Post by winonaforever on Apr 9, 2019 12:58:19 GMT
I had no idea that Adrian Mole was a (relatively) new musical. I thought it was a revival of the one from the 80s.
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Post by ampersand on Apr 9, 2019 13:01:41 GMT
DEH will win
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 18:26:41 GMT
In terms of new musicals, we also have Roald Dahl's The Witches at the National this Christmas, don't we? Or is that going to be postponed again?
Also I wonder if we'll finally get Pride or Dennis The Menace at the Old Vic.
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Post by Phantom of London on Apr 9, 2019 18:31:30 GMT
I actually think Groundhog was the obvious winner that year and the deserved winner considering the hype, the reviews etc. I agree though we need to see what the situation is with & Juliet but it doesn't seem like a show that is aimed at the older generation any more than Evan Hansen is on face value alone. That is exactly the point I am making. Groundhog Day didn’t have any pre-hype, I was there the same time as you in previews and we managed to snap up premium tickets for a mere £30, you had the press, with glowing 5 star reviews, then everything went mental and started selling out, Matthew Warchus and the producers went mad on that and the strength of a rave review in New York Times and fasttracked it to New York, which was fatal, where they should’ve built a bigger base here and transferred uptown. I know the Shaftesbury has its history and sounds familiar history musical as done before, but we cannot write this one off until we know something about it. It could be the one to see.
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Post by winonaforever on Apr 10, 2019 11:06:47 GMT
I had no idea that Adrian Mole was a (relatively) new musical. I thought it was a revival of the one from the 80s. The one from the 80s was at Wyndham's Theatre for a good run... I have the cast LP still, and it's, well, very 1980s... This is a new version created from scratch and works far better as it is situation rather than character led. I've heard most of the 80s one online. I really like it!
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Post by winonaforever on Apr 10, 2019 12:34:20 GMT
Ah, but the brand names, Tizer, Atari, Farrah etc, LOL. I like the reference to Channel 4 in "Oh Pandora" Apparently Channel 4 was a new TV channel in the 80s and was seen as quite highbrow or something!
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Post by dontdreamit on Apr 10, 2019 14:04:03 GMT
JD for best supporting actor in a musical? You heard it here first 😉
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