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Post by geraldine64 on Aug 21, 2020 11:49:26 GMT
What a shame that so many on a theatre forum are being so sniffy about this. These guys have has pulled off the near miraculous feat of staging a brand new show indoors (a far greater achievement than that of JCS at Regents Park), and they deserve our full gratitude and respect. I think many producers in the UK will keep a close eye on how this production works out. Well said, completely agree. The Troubadour is a perfect venue for a socially distanced production and we so need this kind of innovation and imagination at the moment. The producers are taking a huge risk with this, and as you say they deserve our gratitude and our support. I do hope this goes well.
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Post by stevejohnson678 on Aug 21, 2020 11:59:47 GMT
What a shame that so many on a theatre forum are being so sniffy about this. These guys have has pulled off the near miraculous feat of staging a brand new show indoors (a far greater achievement than that of JCS at Regents Park), and they deserve our full gratitude and respect. I think many producers in the UK will keep a close eye on how this production works out. Well said! Here we are with the first piece of live theatre indoors to enjoy for over five months and all we've got is sniping about Kimberley Walsh, picking fault with the trailer, saying how awful the whole thing looks etc. Personally I can't wait to see it and completely agree that all of those involved, both on and off stage, are owed a debt of gratitude for making live indoor theatre happen again.
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Post by alison on Aug 21, 2020 12:32:23 GMT
I have a single ticket for next Wednesday but have been in two minds as to how comfortable I am going - it's not so much the theatre itself I'm worried about as the tube journey there.
The trailer has pretty much sold me on going, though. Not because I think it makes the show look amazing, but because it makes it look like a SHOW. Of the fully staged, fully cast variety that I love so much and want desperately to come back. That's not to say I'm not delighted about all the small scale outdoor things that have been going on, I'm supporting them too - and JCS in its very solid middle ground between the two.
Everyone involved in the production is putting in so much to give us this, of course I want to support that. So now I'm excited, and looking forward to my two show day with the first weekday matinee of JCS beforehand. A two show day in London, what normality!
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Post by fiyero on Aug 21, 2020 13:18:36 GMT
I applaud the producers of this. They obviously want it to happen so much and as has been mentioned the space suits social distancing. The trailer is a little odd but seems to follow the style of movie musical trailers not showing singing either! I hope I have an enjoyable evening there in a couple of weeks. It has been fun spotting my seat in the little snippets on social media from the production and cast. I’m ramping up with a no theatre trip to London this Saturday, outdoor theatre (JCS) the Saturday after then sleepless the Saturday after that. Not sure when my next 2 show day will be!
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Post by Seriously on Aug 21, 2020 14:52:26 GMT
What a shame that so many on a theatre forum are being so sniffy about this. These guys have has pulled off the near miraculous feat of staging a brand new show indoors (a far greater achievement than that of JCS at Regents Park), and they deserve our full gratitude and respect. I think many producers in the UK will keep a close eye on how this production works out. Sniffy? Sounds to me like you’ve lost your sense of smell during the Covid shutdown. You can applaud them all you like for mounting a show at this time, but the script, songs and lyrics were all written well before Covid, and any faults in the writing can’t be glossed over by the “We should be applauding all theatre” panacea.
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Post by westlondon on Aug 21, 2020 15:13:25 GMT
What a shame that so many on a theatre forum are being so sniffy about this. These guys have has pulled off the near miraculous feat of staging a brand new show indoors (a far greater achievement than that of JCS at Regents Park), and they deserve our full gratitude and respect. I think many producers in the UK will keep a close eye on how this production works out. Sniffy? Sounds to me like you’ve lost your sense of smell during the Covid shutdown. You can applaud them all you like for mounting a show at this time, but the script, songs and lyrics were all written well before Covid, and any faults in the writing can’t be glossed over by the “We should be applauding all theatre” panacea. As far as I’m concerned, critiquing shows belongs in a time when there are other shows to compare them to. Right now, almost our entire industry IS this production. I just wish I was involved...
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Post by Seriously on Aug 21, 2020 17:13:45 GMT
"I can't tell if this is a good song because there are no other shows playing. And I've never heard a song before".
What a bizarre opinion.
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Post by westlondon on Aug 21, 2020 17:53:35 GMT
"I can't tell if this is a good song because there are no other shows playing. And I've never heard a song before". What a bizarre opinion. I’m saying that perhaps some negative comments should be kept in moderation whilst we’re simply trying to encourage audiences back into the theatre. It’s in all our interests for this show to do well.
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Post by Seriously on Aug 21, 2020 17:55:34 GMT
I'm not sure bad theatre is going to get audiences back.
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Post by geraldine64 on Aug 21, 2020 18:37:20 GMT
I'm not sure bad theatre is going to get audiences back. 'Sleepless' may not be to your taste, but it is not helpful, or fair, to call it 'bad theatre' - which it absolutely is not. It is a well-crafted piece, put together and produced with passion and love by a team of professionals, with musicians and actors giving of their best. Give them a break!! This is a rubbish time for us all, and we all need something to feel hopeful about, not to tear down carelessly.
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Post by Seriously on Aug 21, 2020 19:33:13 GMT
Ah the same old tired argument.... it's new writing so we must support it. Added to that "There's nothing else to see, so we musn't say anything against it".
Well let's play it your way then. It sounds amazing, the songs are so cool, and that dancing... wow, it's just simply stunning.
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Post by westlondon on Aug 21, 2020 20:21:01 GMT
Ah the same old tired argument.... it's new writing so we must support it. Added to that "There's nothing else to see, so we musn't say anything against it". Well let's play it your way then. It sounds amazing, the songs are so cool, and that dancing... wow, it's just simply stunning. That’s better! You see, it’s not hard is it! 👏👏👏😃
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 9:22:23 GMT
Hmmm, I can see both sides of this.
Yes it is wonderful that ANY theatre is happening at the moment and I fully agree that we should be encouraging any producers making the effort to bring things to stage. Heaven knows we need more of them to so do.
But I don't think that means the actual show produced gets a 'free pass' from opinions on the piece itself.
Certainly for me personally there is nothing about this musical that appeals. The story, the trailer, the history of the previous productions. Nothing against Kimberley and Jay (there were fine in Big) but again their casting generally is not in line with the type of show I go for. But most crucial for me - it's a musical, and none of the music I've heard moved me.
Still, I hope there is an audience for this and I hope they pull it off, as they are our first indoor musical back.
(Oh and the last musical trailer that didn't contain much singing - I think might have been the Cats film?!)
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Post by southstreet on Aug 24, 2020 10:49:12 GMT
I am in two minds about this one. I obviously want to support new musical theatre, especially in the current times, but the theatre is a trek for me to get to, I didn't particularly like the film and everyone I know that went to the earlier run of the show didn't really have much good to say about it.
So for now I am holding off getting a ticket and will wait for some reviews to see if things have improved and make it worth my while to go out to Wembley for the show. If reviews are coming back favourably on this forum, I will happily take the plunge.
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Post by hitmewithurbethshot on Aug 24, 2020 12:21:31 GMT
Has anyone else had their ticket reassigned to a completely different date without being asked? I booked for next week and only just realised my ticket was changed to tomorrow instead which is naturally very stressful for me to try to sort out now
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Post by stevejohnson678 on Aug 25, 2020 18:56:24 GMT
A bit more info about some of the Covid measures in place at the Wembley Park Theatre.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 19:19:44 GMT
A bit more info about some of the Covid measures in place at the Wembley Park Theatre. Gosh that’s incredible. What an extraordinary effort they’ve made - should really be commended. Hope they even manage to make the run profitable. (Just wish I wanted to see the show lol). Seeing these amazing wide open spaces, rows of loos and long long bar does rather highlight the problems of the physical FOH spaces in the West End....
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Post by fiyero on Aug 25, 2020 19:32:25 GMT
That’s a great video. They are really lucky as the whole venue is huge, not just the performance space. I am there in 9 days and really excited!
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Post by dippy on Aug 25, 2020 19:38:56 GMT
Weirdly the thing that jumped out while watching it is what happens if someone doesn't have a smart phone? Can't go to the theatre? Hopefully there's something for those people.
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Post by Seriously on Aug 25, 2020 20:11:37 GMT
Weirdly the thing that jumped out while watching it is what happens if someone doesn't have a smart phone? Can't go to the theatre? Hopefully there's something for those people. And what happens if someone doesn't own shoes? Can't go to the theatre? Hopefully there's something for those people.
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Post by poster J on Aug 25, 2020 20:51:44 GMT
Weirdly the thing that jumped out while watching it is what happens if someone doesn't have a smart phone? Can't go to the theatre? Hopefully there's something for those people. And what happens if someone doesn't own shoes? Can't go to the theatre? Hopefully there's something for those people. Yes because of course those are comparable...(and if your post was intended to be sarcasm it wasn't funny). Don't be so elitist - plenty of people don't have smartphones!
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Post by danb on Aug 25, 2020 20:54:32 GMT
How do they live? Imagine not being able to access the Daily Mail app everywhere you go? Or book £2.50 ticket deals on Today Tix? How ghastly.
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Post by longinthetooth on Aug 25, 2020 21:27:13 GMT
I have a smart phone but wouldn't have a clue how to do what they are asking patrons to do, so that would be interesting if I was going. Also, I never use my phone for anything financial. Behind the times, I know, but I am that sort of age.
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Post by CG on the loose on Aug 25, 2020 21:44:56 GMT
I love the lip-reading friendly masks... and lip-reading aside, what a difference it makes when you can see someone's smile
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Post by Mark on Aug 25, 2020 22:10:04 GMT
Amazing, I love those see-through face masks. It really seems they have thought of everything.
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Post by Seriously on Aug 26, 2020 1:49:25 GMT
And what happens if someone doesn't own shoes? Can't go to the theatre? Hopefully there's something for those people. Yes because of course those are comparable...(and if your post was intended to be sarcasm it wasn't funny). Don't be so elitist - plenty of people don't have smartphones! And the award for creating 1st World Problems goes to....
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Post by poster J on Aug 26, 2020 9:47:34 GMT
Yes because of course those are comparable...(and if your post was intended to be sarcasm it wasn't funny). Don't be so elitist - plenty of people don't have smartphones! And the award for creating 1st World Problems goes to.... And the award for completely (and seemingly deliberately) missing the point goes to... Some people are trying to make a genuine point about inclusivity and you are demeaning both the concept and the posters. Not clever, not funny and not acceptable. I'm really not sure why I bother posting on this forum anymore.
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Post by stevejohnson678 on Aug 26, 2020 10:18:17 GMT
Weirdly the thing that jumped out while watching it is what happens if someone doesn't have a smart phone? Can't go to the theatre? Hopefully there's something for those people. There's no requirement to have a smartphone. The e-tickets are just a PDF with a QR code so can be printed out if preferred and scanned contact-free at the theatre. Customers can pre-order food and drinks online to reduce queuing round the bar but there will still be sales points to order in person, though all sales are contactless. It was a contactless venue before Covid-19 though so no change in that respect.
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Post by dippy on Aug 26, 2020 10:36:47 GMT
Weirdly the thing that jumped out while watching it is what happens if someone doesn't have a smart phone? Can't go to the theatre? Hopefully there's something for those people. There's no requirement to have a smartphone. The e-tickets are just a PDF with a QR code so can be printed out if preferred and scanned contact-free at the theatre. I actually meant about having to scan the QR code to check into the theatre after having your temperature taken, I'm fully aware you can print out a ticket and they can scan that rather than a phone. Maybe there's a alternate option but it wasn't made clear in the video. Anyway, lets move on from this, hopefully we get reports about what the show was like soon. I saw it last year and it was alright, was a bit too far from the stage to properly enjoy it though.
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Post by The Matthew on Aug 26, 2020 10:41:07 GMT
FAO everyone:
This is a discussion forum, and discussion means paying attention to what other people are saying and responding to the matters they raise, not trying to score cheap points by throwing insults. I'm getting rather weary of saying this, but before clicking the "Post" button stop and read what you've written. If all you're doing is insulting someone you have the option of saying "I choose not to be that person" and closing the window. Take that option.
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