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Post by lynette on Mar 26, 2018 3:40:06 GMT
Is there a special website to book tix for this like the Hamilton one? If so, what is it called ? And if not, which is the best way to get tix for this, not particularly reduced or offers. Ta tinathemusical.comThank yoooo
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Post by trox on Mar 27, 2018 19:35:02 GMT
Wow. I got chills reading all of this. Thank you so much Steve. I don't have enough words to thank you. I love how you write, your sensitive approach. I can envision everything. I love the fact that they give a "spiritual" depth to the story (as her book and the subsequent movie also did). What I admire about Tina is that she is always sincere and deep in every interview she gives, as she was in her 1986 autobiography (can't wait for the new one to be released later this year). She is not just an entertainment icon, but also a very complex woman and has a lot to teach all of us. Since I was a child, she's my favorite artist. Steve, I'd like to ask three specific questions: a) The "Let's Stay Together" number, as you've said, is about Tina/Raymond romance. Was there some type of rivality between Ike and Raymond? b) One of my favorite Tina's songs is "Be Tender With Me Baby". I'm beyond delighted that they included it on the musical. What is the context of the song in the musical? When I saw your first review, I envisioned Ike's character singing it for Tina, as a cry for help after his explosive outbursts. c) Last, but not least, I'm still intrigued about Erwin Bach's character in the musical. Does he sing anything? Is "Tonight" a love theme for Erwin and Tina? It seems that Erwin doesn't appear much in the act 2. I wonder if Roger Davies appears too... he's a pivotal character in her life and career. If it wasn't for Roger, she wouldn't have that big comeback. As you can see, I'm more intrigued by Tina's relationships with the other men in her life - Raymond, Roger and Erwin... Thank you so much Steve!!! I was so happy when I saw your response!
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Post by Mark on Mar 28, 2018 13:57:30 GMT
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Post by viserys on Mar 28, 2018 14:21:57 GMT
This sounds like the most useless lottery in christendom.
"within a two-week period"? What if you're only in London for 2-3 days and you get drawn for a day you're not in town?
And this:
"Remember, you can also increase your chances of winning by sharing your entry on social media channels."
I hate this kind of forcing people into advertising, it reeks a bit of that "verified fan" nonsense that's increasingly popular in the USA. If I like a show, I will be happy to talk about it across my social media channels without any prodding, simply because I want to share how good it is and how people should go and see it. But I'm not letting myself get bullied into sharing something if I don't even know yet if it's good.
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Post by musicalmarge on Mar 28, 2018 23:11:35 GMT
Saw the show tonight. Adrienne Warren dear god is sensational. Wow what a talent. That said they show is great but act 1 too long, the book is clunky and without the leading lady the musical is just another generic jukebox bio. I was a tad bored at times.... It should be funnier and smarter.
Still it has time and we all loved it 8/10
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 29, 2018 0:03:37 GMT
Reading the glowing reports on here, but why o why I cannot get enthusiastic about this.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Mar 29, 2018 0:27:37 GMT
Reading the glowing reports on here, but why o why I cannot get enthusiastic about this. Because you aren't enthused by yet another biographical jukebox show? I know they can be safe box office but I want a score that was conceived for the stage. Not just pop or rock songs dotted through the life of the original artist - no matter how good those songs are, they weren't written to be part of a musical.
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Post by showtoones on Mar 29, 2018 5:02:03 GMT
Do we know yet which performances the alternate will be doing each week?
Thanks
ST
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Post by ali973 on Mar 29, 2018 9:47:38 GMT
Better not be tonight! I'm seeing the show tonight and have been following Adrienne Warren's career for a long time!
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Post by ali973 on Mar 29, 2018 22:37:53 GMT
A lot of people around me thought this was going to be a tribute show and that they'd boogie from the minute the curtain went up. It's pretty serious as far as jukebox musicals go, and deals with domestic violence and racism from the get go, and I don't know if many of the audience members around me really signed up for that. I say so because of the combination of nervous giggles, or otherwise giggles in appropriate times when certain derogatory terms were used.
The beginning felt a little bit Color Purple, and a little bit like Dreamgirls when Tina teams up with Ike. There is a montage well into Act I that shows Tina getting pregnant, Tina performing, Tina being abused, Tina becoming Buddhist, Tina performing, Tina giving birth on a bed and the baby shown to the audience (think the opening number of Wicked with the green baby), which needs to be tightened and streamlined.
The LED screen in the background seemed unnecessary and slightly distracting, especially in the beginning. The images captured didn't really enhance the setting, and stylistically, it completely crashed with the rustic South, but was put to better use as we moved into urban settings and into the '60s.
I had issues understanding all the lyrics when Adrienne Warren's sings, but they seemed to have been ironed out by the second act. I actually enjoyed the second act better as I really never knew what happened after the Ike saga ended as they've shown us in the Angela Bassett film. I think I enjoyed seeing Tina's struggle with her self and her own identity rather than her domestic issues with Ike.
As for Adrienne Warren: simply the best. How this woman does this night after night is astonishing. I hope she sustains through the run and keeps her voice and body healthy throughout.
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Post by musicalmarge on Mar 30, 2018 7:16:26 GMT
A lot of people around me thought this was going to be a tribute show and that they'd boogie from the minute the curtain went up. It's pretty serious as far as jukebox musicals go, and deals with domestic violence and racism from the get go, and I don't know if many of the audience members around me really signed up for that. I say so because of the combination of nervous giggles, or otherwise giggles in appropriate times when certain derogatory terms were used. The beginning felt a little bit Color Purple, and a little bit like Dreamgirls when Tina teams up with Ike. There is a montage well into Act I that shows Tina getting pregnant, Tina performing, Tina being abused, Tina becoming Buddhist, Tina performing, Tina giving birth on a bed and the baby shown to the audience (think the opening number of Wicked with the green baby), which needs to be tightened and streamlined. The LED screen in the background seemed unnecessary and slightly distracting, especially in the beginning. The images captured didn't really enhance the setting, and stylistically, it completely crashed with the rustic South, but was put to better use as we moved into urban settings and into the '60s. I had issues understanding all the lyrics when Adrienne Warren's sings, but they seemed to have been ironed out by the second act. I actually enjoyed the second act better as I really never knew what happened after the Ike saga ended as they've shown us in the Angela Bassett film. I think I enjoyed seeing Tina's struggle with her self and her own identity rather than her domestic issues with Ike. As for Adrienne Warren: simply the best. How this woman does this night after night is astonishing. I hope she sustains through the run and keeps her voice and body healthy throughout. Hahaga the baby scene was terrible!!!! Lol
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Post by waybeyondblue on Mar 31, 2018 8:59:33 GMT
Last night:
Lead - she sings and dances well but her acting lacks conviction and confidence
Support - B list hoofers who have little to do then do it badly. Ike is one dimensional but then they are all written that way.
Book - car crash of non sequiturs where Tonight or We Don’t Need Another Hero pops up out of context. This is combined with a number of non-Tina covers which shows how small is her useable catalogue. It is also grim with little relief. It’s very episodic with some bounces that aren’t clearly explained.
Staging - minimal and fails to set the locations clearly.
Audience - tanked up and came for a concert. No bladder or self control.
If you want a good tribute act go see it. It you want Sunny Afternoon then wait for the Summer.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2018 12:42:22 GMT
Alternate Jenny debuts in less than an hour! Adrienne to do this evening, so the assumption is Saturday matinees will be one of the two performances the Jenny does.
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Post by showtoones on Apr 1, 2018 6:55:28 GMT
Who’s Jenny? Is that Tina?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 12:06:21 GMT
Who’s Jenny? Is that Tina? Yeah haha, Jenny is the name of Adriennes alternate.
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Post by foxa on Apr 2, 2018 17:22:02 GMT
I want/need to see this in July.
Could you please get your crystal balls out? Will tickets be more or less expensive after the reviews?
Anyone seeing/predicting any deals?
If not, where best to to sit without having to take out a second mortgage?
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Post by CBP1 on Apr 2, 2018 20:50:34 GMT
This sounds like the most useless lottery in christendom. "within a two-week period"? What if you're only in London for 2-3 days and you get drawn for a day you're not in town? And this: "Remember, you can also increase your chances of winning by sharing your entry on social media channels." I hate this kind of forcing people into advertising, it reeks a bit of that "verified fan" nonsense that's increasingly popular in the USA. If I like a show, I will be happy to talk about it across my social media channels without any prodding, simply because I want to share how good it is and how people should go and see it. But I'm not letting myself get bullied into sharing something if I don't even know yet if it's good. TodayTix does this but I always switch my facebook post settings so that the post is only visible to me! I assume it still increases my chances of winning....
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Post by musicalmarge on Apr 3, 2018 2:14:36 GMT
Did anyone see Soul Sister? Was at the Savoy years back?
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Post by Mark on Apr 3, 2018 7:35:45 GMT
Did anyone see Soul Sister? Was at the Savoy years back? Yes . And it was enjoyable. This feels more classy
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Post by Steve on Apr 3, 2018 16:46:15 GMT
a) The "Let's Stay Together" number, as you've said, is about Tina/Raymond romance. Was there some type of rivality between Ike and Raymond? Ike is angry when he finds out about them, and gets rid of Raymond. His discovery of their relationship sets the scene for him to propose to Tina, and for Tina to choose him over Raymond. Of course, Tina's first child is Raymond's, and Ike must live with that. Ike himself is depicted as an open-marriage type of guy, sleeping with multiple women regularly. b) One of my favorite Tina's songs is "Be Tender With Me Baby". I'm beyond delighted that they included it on the musical. What is the context of the song in the musical? When I saw your first review, I envisioned Ike's character singing it for Tina, as a cry for help after his explosive outbursts. It's too long ago for me to be clear on that. I recall it being the other way around, that Tina demands tenderness. I am seeing the show for the second time in May, so I can get back to you on that. c) Last, but not least, I'm still intrigued about Erwin Bach's character in the musical. Does he sing anything? Is "Tonight" a love theme for Erwin and Tina? It seems that Erwin doesn't appear much in the act 2. Irwin only appears in the second half. He is part of Tina's redemption story, but Tina is not saved by any man, but herself, so his role is a supporting one. I'll pay attention to him in May and let you know more about him. I wonder if Roger Davies appears too... he's a pivotal character in her life and career. If it wasn't for Roger, she wouldn't have that big comeback. Roger is played by Ryan O'Donnell, and is indeed depicted as the key person involved in Tina's new music in the second half. When he gets too controlling, she tells him, and unlike Ike, he takes the hint. A lot of people around me thought this was going to be a tribute show and that they'd boogie from the minute the curtain went up. It's pretty serious as far as jukebox musicals go As for Adrienne Warren: simply the best. Ali973, yes, some people around me thought they'd be up and dancing in a heartbeat, and one even tried to sing along at some really dramatically inappropriate moments lol. She wised up, though, and got her audience participation in at the end. I think the reviews will set people straight on what to expect. And yes, Adrienne Warren was sensational! Given that you are such a connoisseur of musicals, I wonder if you could tell us what jukebox musicals you'd rate higher than this? For me, my favourite jukebox musicals are "Jersey Boys," for it's Rashomon like dramatic structure, "Mamma Mia" for successfully recontextualising and dramatising the songs, and telling an original story, despite being lightweight, "Rock of Ages" for it's comedy, and "We Will Rock You" for being the wackiest, most camp and culty and generally crazy jukebox experience. For me, I prefer this to all those shows because I felt the music itself was elevated by the show into being something more than what I had thought it was, whereas all those other shows do not succeed in elevating the music (in fact "We Will Rock You" and "Rock of Ages" actively trivialise the music lol). Who’s Jenny? Is that Tina? Jenny Fitzpatrick played Tina Turner previously, in the Soul Sister tour, after the Savoy run, including at my local, the New Wimbledon Theatre. I only saw the Savoy show, so I missed her. The Savoy Show was a straightforward Bill Kenwright production, with jukebox performances, set apart from the drama for the most part, and screens describing Tina Turner's life. It was fun, but not riveting, like this show.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 3, 2018 18:48:01 GMT
Sorry but I’d put Jersey Boys down as one it the very worse Juke Box musicals I’ve ever seen. I hated it. If Tina is anything like that then I’ll be selling my ticket.
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Post by distantcousin on Apr 3, 2018 19:29:12 GMT
Did anyone see Soul Sister? Was at the Savoy years back? I saw it on the UK Tour - really enjoyed it. Incidentally Jenny Fitzpatrick was the alternate Tina for that show too!! She has pedigree!
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Post by trox on Apr 4, 2018 3:29:35 GMT
Steve thank you so much for your response. You really helped me! I appreciate your kindness, your comments and impressions. I cherish it.
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Post by foxa on Apr 4, 2018 10:09:06 GMT
TM - Thank you so much. That gives us a lot to work with!
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Post by ptwest on Apr 7, 2018 9:08:37 GMT
Have just booked a ticket for this afternoon!
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Post by Mark on Apr 7, 2018 9:56:54 GMT
Just a note on row Z. Seems they've upped the price on these to £39.50
When I walked past when I went it seems these are now proper seats with armrests etc. It's probably not a bad option for this show as nothing takes place up a height.
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Post by ptwest on Apr 7, 2018 16:15:03 GMT
Good grief, Adrienne Warren’s a force of nature isn’t she?
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Post by Mark on Apr 7, 2018 16:35:55 GMT
Good grief, Adrienne Warren’s a force of nature isn’t she? She sure is. Quite extraordinary.
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Post by romeo94 on Apr 7, 2018 19:10:12 GMT
Any update on which performances Adrienne is off?
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Post by ali973 on Apr 7, 2018 19:55:42 GMT
It just occurred to me to mention that this is probably THE most cramped and tight theatre I've sat it, and I am by no means big or tall. I cannot imagine how uncomfortable it is for people who are bigger and taller.
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