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Post by mrbarnaby on Mar 1, 2019 6:30:41 GMT
JAKE GYLLENHAAL AS JOE. GOD. PLEASE GIVE THIS TO US. Also, I am so thrilled that Glenn gets to do this. And for GOD SAKE give her an Oscar people! YES YES YES
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Post by craig on Mar 1, 2019 8:07:29 GMT
I’m thinking of casting. Betty ? Max? I can see Anna Kendrick making quite a good Betty? As long as James Cordon is nowhere near this! Yes, no James Cordon please. He'll probably be Joe. Jake and Anna are great shouts. Just give Siobhan Dillon Betty. I want that girl to have a big break a la Sam Barks. I'm so excited for this. Glenn is one of the finest film actors of our generation, she was an incredible Norma when I saw it at The Coliseum and is surely going to grab the Oscar for this! FINALLY!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 1, 2019 8:15:41 GMT
I’ve moved this to General which is where we usually discuss film.
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Post by theatreian on Mar 1, 2019 8:27:06 GMT
Yes so glad this is finally confirmed and with Glenn too. Needs to eb a film actress in my opinion to play this role on screen. Glenn will nail it.
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Post by musicalmarge on Mar 1, 2019 9:17:05 GMT
As long as James Cordon is nowhere near this! Yes, no James Cordon please. He'll probably be Joe. Jake and Anna are great shouts. Just give Siobhan Dillon Betty. I want that girl to have a big break a la Sam Barks. I'm so excited for this. Glenn is one of the finest film actors of our generation, she was an incredible Norma when I saw it at The Coliseum and is surely going to grab the Oscar for this! FINALLY! I’d love it if they gave Betty to a musical theatre performer!! Gosh I’m so excited about this - it’s my favourite show! Isn’t Zac Effron too young? We need someone mid 30’s
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 9:30:04 GMT
I’m thinking of casting. Betty ? Max? I can see Anna Kendrick making quite a good Betty? As long as James Cordon is nowhere near this! 100 times this.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 9:31:14 GMT
As long as James Cordon is nowhere near this! Yes, no James Cordon please. He'll probably be Joe. God no please if he goes anywhere near this, I will make it my mission to destroy this production. hah.
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Post by poster J on Mar 1, 2019 11:21:29 GMT
Maybe it's just because I've watched Bohemian Rhapsody recently, but I'd quite like to see what Lucy Boynton could do as Betty. Or Lily James.
Obviously no objection to a musical theatre actress being cast either though!
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Post by sparky5000 on Mar 1, 2019 12:11:35 GMT
Yes, no James Cordon please. He'll probably be Joe. God no please if he goes anywhere near this, I will make it my mission to destroy this production. hah. Haha, I second this! I mean like the guy, but just no!
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Post by sparky5000 on Mar 1, 2019 12:13:36 GMT
... and the Oscar goes too... Haha yes! After Olivia pipped her to the post last week it’s inevitable ....
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 1, 2019 15:27:49 GMT
Who for Max?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 16:04:35 GMT
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Post by bobbybaby on Mar 1, 2019 16:30:47 GMT
I’d like to see Luke Evans as Joe. 🤗 And obviously after Les Mis - Russell Crowe as Max !
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 16:38:36 GMT
Samantha Barks would be my choice for Betty.
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Post by karloscar on Mar 1, 2019 19:52:44 GMT
Nothing is guaranteed with film musicals. This could easily be a complete turkey, and Glenn does not have her name on the Oscar. She was a sure winner this year and look what happened. Having said that Olivia Coleman as Betty, Serena McKellen as Max, and Nick Jonas as Joe has great potential! And cut all the songs apart from Norma's solos and have it all as interior monologues à la Yentl. Sorted!
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Post by poster J on Mar 1, 2019 20:34:46 GMT
She was a sure winner this year and look what happened. She was never a sure winner this year. Sunset Boulevard with her is a different beast entirely.
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Post by bobbybaby on Mar 1, 2019 22:33:57 GMT
Of course if they could persuade Brian Blessed to shave he'd be the perfect Max - ' NORMA'S ALIVE'.
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Post by karloscar on Mar 1, 2019 23:46:49 GMT
She was a sure winner this year and look what happened. She was never a sure winner this year. Sunset Boulevard with her is a different beast entirely. She was the clear favourite for months, until Olivia started winning everything. And NOTHING is guaranteed with a film musical. It could easily be another NINE or Phantom dud rather than a Chicago type success.
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Post by poster J on Mar 2, 2019 0:09:35 GMT
She was never a sure winner this year. Sunset Boulevard with her is a different beast entirely. She was the clear favourite for months, until Olivia started winning everything. And NOTHING is guaranteed with a film musical. It could easily be another NINE or Phantom dud rather than a Chicago type success. I'm not going to go hugely off-topic, but I've already explained in the Oscar thread how she was only the favourite in the build-up US media, whereas anyone who looked at it with a bit of distance/perspective could see all along she was anything but a cert. But people bought the hype and I was called crazy for saying when the nominations came out that Colman would win... Anyway, the real point is that this is a different prospect to a Phantom, Chicago or Les Mis. We all already know that Glenn Close is a great Norma Desmond. Of course, the production choices could absolutely be terrible (Rent is a good example of known cast turning out a bad film version of course), but the point I am trying to make is that this is nowhere near the same kind of unknown quantity as most movie musicals, indeed it is a role that Close has already made iconic.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 5:49:12 GMT
Yes, no James Cordon please. He'll probably be Joe. Jake and Anna are great shouts. Just give Siobhan Dillon Betty. I want that girl to have a big break a la Sam Barks. I'm so excited for this. Glenn is one of the finest film actors of our generation, she was an incredible Norma when I saw it at The Coliseum and is surely going to grab the Oscar for this! FINALLY! I’d love it if they gave Betty to a musical theatre performer!! Gosh I’m so excited about this - it’s my favourite show! Isn’t Zac Effron too young? We need someone mid 30’s Zac Efron is in his early 30s so it's not exactly a stretch. Jake Gyllenhaal or Chris Pine would be better choices though I think. Love the Lilly James idea for Betty, she exudes that youthful optimism needed for Betty and is also a box office draw. The director is a bit of a concern but it's still got huge potential and could probably be done on a smallish budget and be more of a prestige type of film for the studio.
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Post by karloscar on Mar 2, 2019 7:52:16 GMT
Glenn Close did not make the role of Norma Desmond iconic, Gloria Swanson did that. And I say again, having a success with a role on stage does not mean it will work on film, or win any awards. Wait until we see what is produced before coming to any conclusions.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 8:26:36 GMT
She was the clear favourite for months, until Olivia started winning everything. And NOTHING is guaranteed with a film musical. It could easily be another NINE or Phantom dud rather than a Chicago type success. I'm not going to go hugely off-topic, but I've already explained in the Oscar thread how she was only the favourite in the build-up US media, whereas anyone who looked at it with a bit of distance/perspective could see all along she was anything but a cert. But people bought the hype and I was called crazy for saying when the nominations came out that Colman would win... The story in the UK media too (before and indeed after the win) was that Colman's win was a shock, whether that was due to the "overdue" factor for Close or not, and you even said yourself that you thought Close would win prior to the awards.
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Post by poster J on Mar 2, 2019 10:15:07 GMT
I'm not going to go hugely off-topic, but I've already explained in the Oscar thread how she was only the favourite in the build-up US media, whereas anyone who looked at it with a bit of distance/perspective could see all along she was anything but a cert. But people bought the hype and I was called crazy for saying when the nominations came out that Colman would win... The story in the UK media too (before and indeed after the win) was that Colman's win was a shock, whether that was due to the "overdue" factor for Close or not, and you even said yourself that you thought Close would win prior to the awards. I did think the hype had got to the point where Close probably would take it, but I never thought it was a done thing. All because of the "overdue" factor and her winning the SAG, but we know now that the latter isn't an indicator much at all because neither of the female SAG winners went on to take the Oscar this year. No-one can deny that there is already name recognition in terms of Glenn Close being connected to Sunset Boulevard, and that's what makes this different and gives it more of a chance of being successful than other movie musicals. Of course it might flop, who knows, depends what they do with it in production, but it isn't the wholly unknown quantity that a lot of previous film adaptations of stage shows have been. We all know what Close is capable of doing in the role. That's the difference.
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Post by karloscar on Mar 3, 2019 8:48:49 GMT
The stage show has a heap of filler songs and very dull recitative which uses the same music over and over. That will die a death on film unless they do a major rewrite. At least they can stage an improved car chase I guess.
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Post by poster J on Mar 3, 2019 8:51:43 GMT
The stage show has a heap of filler songs and very dull recitative which uses the same music over and over. That will die a death on film unless they do a major rewrite. At least they can stage an improved car chase I guess. Presumably they'll add a new song to try for the Original Song Oscar at least...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 19:56:55 GMT
Glen’s cast recording removed from Spotify and iTunes. Deleted pending upcoming OST? One can dream!
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Post by danb on Apr 20, 2019 20:13:02 GMT
The stage show has a heap of filler songs and very dull recitative which uses the same music over and over. That will die a death on film unless they do a major rewrite. At least they can stage an improved car chase I guess. ...is one opinion... Conversely, the score is one of ALW’s best, with lush sweeping strings all over the shop. Full of brooding and foreboding the story is a real thrilling downward spiral. Yes, it is a touch repetitive, but if you like it in the first place it isn’t a problem.
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Post by LaLuPone on Apr 20, 2019 20:13:09 GMT
Maybe it’s just because she sounds dreadful and no one wants to hear her croak her way through the score when you can have Patti LuPone?
Joking, joking...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 23:20:29 GMT
For those who know both, are we talking an Anne Marie Duff in Sweet Charity level of croaking?
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Post by danb on Apr 21, 2019 9:27:20 GMT
Thankfully I doubt that Les Mis levels of live vocal will be employed. They could just use the original LA recording for me. No probs with that at all.
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