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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 22, 2016 15:30:02 GMT
I think Beverley will pick up some for The Bodyguard I don't think The Bodyguard is eligible. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 15:32:13 GMT
I think Beverley will pick up some for The Bodyguard I don't think The Bodyguard is eligible. Maybe not for revival but leading actress in musical should be |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 15:32:35 GMT
THat list is going to get longer as more transfers are announced this yar!!
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 22, 2016 15:32:37 GMT
American Idiot isn't eligible, apparently the Arts Theatre isn't represented by SOLT.
Does anyone know if Sunset Boulevard is eligible?
Also don't forget Finding Neverland! Alfie Boe and Kelsey Grammer are the only confirmed cast members so far.
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 22, 2016 15:33:43 GMT
I don't think The Bodyguard is eligible. Maybe not for revival but leading actress in musical should be I don't think they consider shows that return in small amounts of time, they didn't with Cats, which funnily enough also had Beverley Knight. |
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Post by theatremadness on Apr 22, 2016 15:39:50 GMT
Are places like the Charing Cross Theatre & the St James Theatre eligible? If Charing Cross is, then both Titanic & Death Takes A Holiday would be eligible for Best New Musical I guess (I see you've already included Ragtime)? And Radio Times, too - would that be under revival or has there not been a major London production before?
Don't think 1984 can be considered a "New" play considering this has been at the Playhouse for 2 (at least?) seasons before. If anything it would go in Play Revival, but doubt it'll get nominated!
Not quite sure where Daniel Radcliffe being in This House came from unless I missed that announcement? Maybe a bit of confusion as he's going to be in Privacy, a play by the same writer as This House, but that's in America.
Then, Motown is eligible for Best New Musical I would've thought? And if stuff at the National eligible, then wonder.land too. What about War Of The Worlds? That should also be eligible. The End of Longing should also be eligible, I've not seen it yet so don't know whether it's Best New Play or Best New Comedy. Is The Painkiller eligible? Best New Comedy?
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 22, 2016 16:00:06 GMT
Are places like the Charing Cross Theatre & the St James Theatre eligible? If Charing Cross is, then both Titanic & Death Takes A Holiday would be eligible for Best New Musical I guess (I see you've already included Ragtime)? And Radio Times, too - would that be under revival or has there not been a major London production before? Don't think 1984 can be considered a "New" play considering this has been at the Playhouse for 2 (at least?) seasons before. If anything it would go in Play Revival, but doubt it'll get nominated! Not quite sure where Daniel Radcliffe being in This House came from unless I missed that announcement? Maybe a bit of confusion as he's going to be in Privacy, a play by the same writer as This House, but that's in America. Then, Motown is eligible for Best New Musical I would've thought? And if stuff at the National eligible, then wonder.land too. And Amadeus for Best Play Revival. What about War Of The Worlds? That should also be eligible. The End of Longing should also be eligible, I've not seen it yet so don't know whether it's Best New Play or Best New Comedy. Is The Painkiller eligible? Best New Comedy? Don't think St. James and Charing Cross are eligible. Motown is eligible as is shows at the National. Wonder.land would've been eligible for the awards this year (it wasn't nominated for anything though). Same goes for War of the Worlds and The End of Longing. Painkiller is eligible. |
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Post by theatremadness on Apr 22, 2016 16:50:04 GMT
Are places like the Charing Cross Theatre & the St James Theatre eligible? If Charing Cross is, then both Titanic & Death Takes A Holiday would be eligible for Best New Musical I guess (I see you've already included Ragtime)? And Radio Times, too - would that be under revival or has there not been a major London production before? Don't think 1984 can be considered a "New" play considering this has been at the Playhouse for 2 (at least?) seasons before. If anything it would go in Play Revival, but doubt it'll get nominated! Not quite sure where Daniel Radcliffe being in This House came from unless I missed that announcement? Maybe a bit of confusion as he's going to be in Privacy, a play by the same writer as This House, but that's in America. Then, Motown is eligible for Best New Musical I would've thought? And if stuff at the National eligible, then wonder.land too. And Amadeus for Best Play Revival. What about War Of The Worlds? That should also be eligible. The End of Longing should also be eligible, I've not seen it yet so don't know whether it's Best New Play or Best New Comedy. Is The Painkiller eligible? Best New Comedy? Don't think St. James and Charing Cross are eligible. Motown is eligible as is shows at the National. Wonder.land would've been eligible for the awards this year (it wasn't nominated for anything though). Same goes for War of the Worlds and The End of Longing. Painkiller is eligible. Ah yes of course, hard to keep track of all the dates! I think Motown will get nominated if they want fill the 5 spaces up next year. Not sure about Painkiller! |
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 22, 2016 17:00:42 GMT
Don't think St. James and Charing Cross are eligible. Motown is eligible as is shows at the National. Wonder.land would've been eligible for the awards this year (it wasn't nominated for anything though). Same goes for War of the Worlds and The End of Longing. Painkiller is eligible. Ah yes of course, hard to keep track of all the dates! I think Motown will get nominated if they want fill the 5 spaces up next year. Not sure about Painkiller! Considering they left Harlequinade out, they may leave The Painkiller out, but I haven't seen The Painkiller so not 100% sure. |
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 22, 2016 17:01:39 GMT
BTW Kunal Nayyar is supporting in The Spoils.
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 22, 2016 20:46:41 GMT
I wouldn't at all be surprised if Dreamgirls is Revival like Cinderella on Broadway... it is technically new to the city but has been a known entity for many years.
In this case, the lineup for the Musicals (New and Revival) will look like this, with those ineligible due to theatre placement or time of opening being removed:
Best New Musical
• Aladdin (Prince Edward)
• The Go Between (Apollo)
• Motown (Shaftsbury)
Best Musical Revival
• Dreamgirls (Savoy) • Sunset Boulevard (ENO) (??)
• Funny Girl (Savoy)
• Showboat (New London)
• Jesus Christ Superstar (Open Air)
• The Threepenny Opera (National)
Best Leading Actor in a Musical
• Cedric Neal (Motown) • Dean John Wilson (Aladdin)
• Michael Crawford (The Go Between)
• Michael Xavier (Sunset Boulevard) (??)
• Declan Bennett (Jesus Christ Superstar)
• Rory Kinnear (The Threepenny Opera)
• Darius Campbell (Funny Girl)
• Chris Peluso (Showboat)
Best Leading Actress in a Musical
• Lucy St. Louis (Motown) • Jade Ewen (Aladdin)
• Glenn Close (Sunset Boulevard) (??)
• Amber Riley (Dreamgirls)
• Sheridan Smith (Funny Girl)
• Rosalie Craig (The Threepenny Opera)
• Gina Beck (Showboat)
I kept Sunset in as no one seems to know if it is eligible. And if nothing else happened to open that is a Musical Revival, that is the category set. And also that is Best New Musical is set and even has one more place which is sure to be filled.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 20:47:57 GMT
I wouldn't at all be surprised if Dreamgirls is Revival like Cinderella on Broadway... it is technically new to the city but has been a known entity for many years.
In this case, the lineup for the Musicals (New and Revival) will look like this, with those ineligible due to theatre placement or time of opening being removed:
Best New Musical
• Aladdin (Prince Edward)
• The Go Between (Apollo)
• Motown (Shaftsbury)
Best Musical Revival
• Dreamgirls (Savoy) • Sunset Boulevard (ENO) (??)
• Funny Girl (Savoy)
• Showboat (New London)
• Jesus Christ Superstar (Open Air)
• The Threepenny Opera (National)
Best Leading Actor in a Musical
• Cedric Neal (Motown) • Dean John Wilson (Aladdin)
• Michael Crawford (The Go Between)
• Michael Xavier (Sunset Boulevard) (??)
• Declan Bennett (Jesus Christ Superstar)
• Rory Kinnear (The Threepenny Opera)
• Darius Campbell (Funny Girl)
• Chris Peluso (Showboat)
Best Leading Actress in a Musical
• Lucy St. Louis (Motown) • Jade Ewen (Aladdin)
• Glenn Close (Sunset Boulevard) (??)
• Amber Riley (Dreamgirls)
• Sheridan Smith (Funny Girl)
• Rosalie Craig (The Threepenny Opera)
• Gina Beck (Showboat)
I kept Sunset in as no one seems to know if it is eligible. And if nothing else happened to open that is a Musical Revival, that is the category set. And also that is Best New Musical is set and even has one more place which is sure to be filled.
Don't forget Finding Neverland! Don't worry, I did remember Finding Neverland. I am only including those we know for sure are eligible and know their opening dates etc |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 21:47:09 GMT
Wait, why is Dreamgirls a revival?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 21:53:44 GMT
Wait, why is Dreamgirls a revival? I listed it as a Revival because I think it will get the Cinderella on Broadway treatment. It is a known entity and has been for many years, as had Cinderella. So when Cinderella went to Broadway, it was listed as a Revival as it was already a well known thing despite never being performed. I imagine the same will happen here. I am obviously not 100% sure, we shall have to see. But don't be surprised if it is listed as Revival because of these reasons. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 21:59:10 GMT
Coliseum is eligible through ENO so likely that Sunset will be up for revival plus Close, Xavier etc.
As has been pointed out elsewhere 1984 and This House are not eligible as they are transfers of already nominated shows. Errors mentioned earlier, particularly the erroneously included fringe venues, are still there but Daniel's musical list sorts most of that that out effectively. Not yet fixed, however, Man of Good Hope will be opera or musical and it's still also down as a play, Pacifist's Guide to Cancer is a musical, just look at the publicity, and If You Kiss Me is not a play in a million years, maybe it will be seen as a musical but more likely in the entertainment category.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 22:00:14 GMT
Oooo if Sunset is eligible then sorry Sheridan, you just lost your Olivier to Glenn Close girl!
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Post by Phantom of London on Apr 22, 2016 22:24:06 GMT
Let me very clear here, this applies to one person, who I am not going to name.
I don't spend ages compiling a list on both Plays and Musicals and then updating it for someone to plagiarise what I have done and turn it into just a musical dabate, the objective is to give a long list of everything possible on both Plays and Musicals and board members to partition for my information to be withdrawn or changed or board members to give additional information, not for someone to come along and bastardise what I done. Moderators with you consider removing theses posts with these lists in please, as I spent a good time compiling these lists so it is relevant to both genres of theatre?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 22:26:42 GMT
Let me very clear here, this applies to one person, who I am not going to name. I don't spend ages compiling a list on both Plays and Musicals and then updating it for someone to plagiarise what I have done and turn it into just a musical dabate, the objective is to give a long list of everything possible on both Plays and Musicals and board members to partition for my information to be withdrawn or changed or board members to give additional information, not for someone to come along and bastardise what I done. Moderators with you consider removing theses posts with these lists in please, as I spent a good time compiling these lists so it is relevant to both genres of theatre? Well clearly this is aimed at me... I will happily take it down, as I did not mean to offend you and didn't go out with the intent to offend, I would never go out to purposely offend anyone, especially someone who I actually like a lot on this forum. I was just making it evident as to what was eligible and what wasn't so it was clearer for people. If that offended you then I apologise for that.
EDIT: Has been removed by myself to take away any offence, but I cannot get rid of it being quoted. Sorry if it upset you, I have done all I can though.
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Post by Phantom of London on Apr 22, 2016 22:29:04 GMT
Thank you and very much appreciated.
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Post by Phantom of London on Apr 22, 2016 22:34:12 GMT
Coliseum is eligible through ENO so likely that Sunset will be up for revival plus Close, Xavier etc. As has been pointed out elsewhere 1984 and This House are not eligible as they are transfers of already nominated shows. Errors mentioned earlier, particularly the erroneously included fringe venues, are still there but Daniel's musical list sorts most of that that out effectively. Not yet fixed, however, Man of Good Hope will be opera or musical and it's still also down as a play, Pacifist's Guide to Cancer is a musical, just look at the publicity, and If You Kiss Me is not a play in a million years, maybe it will be seen as a musical but more likely in the entertainment category. Next week when I am at a desktop computer, I will do a clean up, hard to do on a Ipad. Thought we agreed on the This House thread that could be nominated for a new play again, but read it again and I read it wrong. I would also add your contribution to this thread has been immense and thank you. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 22:37:42 GMT
This whole eligibility thing is always confusing, as well as nominee placement. I really just wish they would make any London Theatre eligible, it would make the races a lot more competitive and interesting! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2016 22:11:55 GMT
Looks like best actress in a musical is shaping up to be the best category!!
I'm still think Beverley should be up for actress for Bodyguard but i dont know.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2016 1:36:27 GMT
I think the rule for was a show can be eligible if it has done over 30 performances, which I'm sure Sunset Boulevard has so it could very well be nominated - which was why Sweeney Todd a the ENO last year wasn't as it only did 12. For that matter, The War of the Worlds could be nominated also! But I doubt it will...and that's from someone who is a fan of it (but not the Dominion production)!
However if Glenn Close missed out on a large number of performances she'd probably miss out on a nomination like David Tennant did for Hamlet. (I've no idea if she's back in the show yet, all I know was that she was off yesterday and her understudy got booed, nothing more)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2016 13:12:08 GMT
I think the rule for was a show can be eligible if it has done over 30 performances, which I'm sure Sunset Boulevard has so it could very well be nominated - which was why Sweeney Todd a the ENO last year wasn't as it only did 12. For that matter, The War of the Worlds could be nominated also! But I doubt it will...and that's from someone who is a fan of it (but not the Dominion production)! However if Glenn Close missed out on a large number of performances she'd probably miss out on a nomination like David Tennant did for Hamlet. (I've no idea if she's back in the show yet, all I know was that she was off yesterday and her understudy got booed, nothing more) I forget Sweeney ran for such a short stint. War of the Worlds was eligible this year, and unsurprisingly received nothing. |
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Post by Phantom of London on Apr 25, 2016 8:32:28 GMT
I have taken everyone's suggestions and included them in the latest update, which are in red.
Best Musical
Groundhog Day (Old Vic)
Aladdin (Prince Edward)
Go Between (Apollo)
Dreamgirls (Savoy)
Death Takes A Holiday (Charing Cross Theatre)(Is This Theatre Eligible?)
Titanic (Charing Cross Theatre) (Is This Theatre Eligible?)
Murder Ballad (Arts) (Is This Theatre Eligible?)
Miss Atomic Bomb (St James)(Is This Theatre Eligible?)
A Pacifist’s Guide to the War on Cancer (National)
A Man of Good Hope (Young Vic)
***An American In Paris (Added) (Dominion) (Will this be eligible for the 2016/17 Season?)
***American Idiot (Added)(Arts Theatre) (Is This Theatre Eligible?)
***Motown (Was This, This Year or Last Year?)
Best Musical (Revival)
Sunset Boulevard) (ENO)
Funny Girl (Savoy)
Showboat (New London)
Jesus Christ Superstar (Open Air)
Ragtime (Charing Cross Theatre) (Is This Theatre Eligible?)
The Threepenny Opera (National)
Best Play
The Suicide (National)
The Flick (National)
Sunset at the Villa Thalia (National)
Yerma (Young Vic)
A Man of Good Hope (Young Vic)
Lady’s Day at Emerson Bar and Grill (Wyndham)
Harry Potter and the Cursed Child (Palace)
Elegy (Donmar Warehouse)
Running Wild (Open Air)
Boy (Almedia)
Sideways (St James)(Is This Theatre Eligible?)
X (Royal Court)
They Drink it in the Congo (Almedia)
Oil (Almedia)
Father Comes Home From the Wars (Parts 1,2,&3)(Royal Court)
The Nest (Young Vic)
The Red Barn (National)
Love (National)
Mosquito (National)
A Pacifist Guide to War on Cancer (National)
***This House (Added)
*** Monster Raving Loony (Added)(Soho Theatre)(Is This Theatre Eligible?)
***The Spoils (New)(Trafalgar Studio)
***Lawrence After Arabia (New)(Hampstead Theatre)(Is This Theatre Eligible?)
***1984(New)(Playhouse Theatre)(Will This be Eligble?)
***The Hunter (Young Vic)
***The End of Longing) (Was This, This Year or Last Year?)
Best Play (Revival)
Les Blancs (National)
Platonov (National)
Ivanov (National)
The Seagull (National)
The Deep Blue Sea (National)
The Plough and the Star (National)
A Midsummer Night’s Dream (Globe)
Taming of the Shrew (Globe)
Macbeth (Globe)
Blue/Orange (Young Vic)
The Caretaker (Old Vic)
No Man’s Land (Wyndham)
Romeo and Julliett (Garrick)
The Entertainer (Garrick)
Doctor Faustus (Duke of York)
Faith Healer (Donmar Warehouse)
Henry V (Open Air)
Richard III (Almedia)
Hamlet (Almedia)(Will This Make The Cut Off For 2016/17?)
My Mother Never Said I Should (St James) (Is This Theatre Eligible?)
How The Other Half Loves (Theatre Royal, Haymarket)
Breakfast at Tiffany’s (Theatre Royal, Haymarket)
The Libertine (Theatre Royal, Haymarket)
Cleansed (National)
Once In A Lifetime (Young Vic)
Amadeus (National)
Hedda Gabler (National)
***Hobson’s Choice (New)(Vaudeville)
*** The Alchemist (New)(RSC –Barbican)
***Doctor Faustus (New)(RSC –Barbican)
***Cymbeline (New)(RSC –Barbican)
***King Lear (New)(RSC –Barbican)
***Love Labour Lost (New)(RSC –Haymarket)
***Love Labour Found or Much Ado About Nothing (New)(RSC –Haymarket)
***King Lear (New)(Old Vic)
***No Man’s Land (New)(Wyndham)
***Painkiller (Garrick Theatre) (Was This, This Year or Last Year?)
Best Leading Actor (Musical)
Andy Karl (Groundhog Day)
Dean John Wilson (Aladdin)
Michael Crawford (Go Between)(Is This Supporting)
Michael Xavier (Sunset Boulevard)
Declan Bennett (Jesus Christ Superstar)
Simon Lipkin (Miss Atomic Bomb)
Daniel Boys (Miss Atomic Bombs)
Rory Kinnear (Threepenny Opera)
Darius (Funny Girl)
Chris Peluso (Showboat)
***Robert Fairchild (Added)(An American in Paris)
Best Leading Actress (Musical)
Jade Ewen (Aladdin)
Glenn Close (Sunset Boulevard)(Will Glee completed enough performances)
Amber Riley (Dreamgirls)
Sheridan Smith (Funny Girl)
Kerry Ellis (Murder Ballad)
Catherine Tate (St James)
Florence Andrews (St James)
Rosalie Craig (Threepenny Opera)
Gina Beck (Showboat)
Audra Mcdonald (Lady’s Day at Emerson Bar and Grill)(Moved From Best Actess in a Leading |Role for a Play)
***Leanne Cope (Added)(An American in Paris)
***Beverley Knight (The Bodyguard)(Will Beverley Be Eligble?)
Best Leading Actor (Play)
Ben Miles (Sunset at the Villa Thalia)
Ray Fearon (Macbeth)
David Haig (Blue/Orange)
Timothy Spall (The Caretaker)
Daniel Mays (The Caretaker)
Ian McKellen (No Man’s Land)
Patrick Steward (No Man’s Land)
Jamie Parker (Harry Parker and the Cursed Child)
***Derek Jacobi (Garrick)(Moved to Supporting Role)
Richard Madden (Garrick)
Kenneth Branagh (Garrick)
Kit Harrington (Doctor Faustus)
Ralph Fiennes (Almedia)
Andrew Scott (Almedia)
Nicholas Le Prevost (How The Other Half Loves)
Dominic Cooper (The Libertine)
Danny Sapini (Les Blanc)
Javone Prince (The Suicide)
Tom Mothersdale (Cleansed)
Matthew Maher (Flick)
James McArdle (Platonov)(Name Corrected)
Geoffrey Streatfield (Ivanov)
***Martin Shaw(Added) (Hobson’s Choice)
***Anthony Sher (RSC-King Lear)
***Ian Mckellen (New)(No Man’s Land)
*** Patrick Stewart (New)(No Man’s Land)
***Daniel Weyman (New)(Sideways)
***Simon Harrison (New)(Sideways)
***Kunal Nayyar (New)(The Spoils)
***Jeff Rawle (New)( Lawrence After Arabia)
***Matthew Perry (The End of Longing)
Kenneth Brangh (Painkiller)
Rob Brydon (Painkiller)
Best Leading Actress (Play)
Helen McCroy (The Deep Blue Sea)
Meow Meow (A Midsummer Night’s Dream)
Tara Fitzgerald (Macbeth)
Jane Horrocks (If You Kiss Me, Kiss Me)
***Lily James (Garrick)
Zoe Wanamaker (Elegy)
Michelle Terry (Henry V)
Maureen Lipman (My Mother Never Said I Should)
Katie Brayben (My Mother Never Said I Should)
Jenny Seagrove (How The Other Half Loves)
Tamsin Outhwaite (How The Other Half Loves)
Pixie Lott (Breakfast at Tiffany’s)
Kathryn Hunter (The Emperor)
Michelle Terry (Cleansed)
Louisa Krause (Flick)
Anna Chancellor (The Seagull)
Norma Dumezwemi (Harry Potter)
Jessica Raine (X)
Caroline Faber (My Mother Never Said I Should)
***Naomi Frederick (New)(Hobson’s Choice)
*** Glenda Jackson (New)(King Lear)
***Jessie Effenberg(New)(The Spoils)
*** Geraldine James (New)( Lawrence After Arabia)
Best Comedy
The Comedy About A Bank Robbery (Criterion)
Best Entertainment
If You Kiss Me, Kiss Me (Young Vic)(Moved From Best Play)
***Radio Times (Charing Cross Theatre)(Is This Theatre Eligible)
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