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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 9:50:47 GMT
I don't think 1984 is eligible. I believe this return is a transfer of the existing production, so it wouldn't count as a revival, and if it was going to be nominated for Best New Play, surely that would've happened a couple of years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 14:11:17 GMT
I don't think 1984 is eligible. I believe this return is a transfer of the existing production, so it wouldn't count as a revival, and if it was going to be nominated for Best New Play, surely that would've happened a couple of years ago. 1984 definitely wont be eligible. It was nominated for Best New Play in 2014 when it was at the Almeida, but lost out to Chimerica. Surprisingly it appears that was the only thing it was nominated for that year! Also it has been to the Playhouse twice since then and it hasn't been nominated again, not that it should be either. This year's cut off date was 16th February 2016, so that means The End of Longing could have been nominated, but wasn't as it opened 12th February. Motown opened 8th March so that could be eligible for next year, as was The Painkiller which was the 5th March (although I'm not sure if that was the preview or the press night. Doesn't matter either way!). Speaking of The Painkiller, has this actually been performed in London (or anywhere) before Branagh and Brydon did it at Belfast Lyric? If not, shouldn't it be under "Best New Comedy"? |
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 26, 2016 8:03:15 GMT
American Idiot won't be eligible as it was on at the Art's Theatre last year.
Motown will be eligible.
1984 won't be eligible as it already ran a few years ago, unless it's counted as a revival.
I don't think Beverley is eligible as the Olivier's don't tent to like nominating show's that come back to the West End after a little break.
The End of Longing isn't eligible, they would've been eligible for the Olivier Awards 2016.
Kunal Nayyar is supporting in The Spoils.
You may want to change where you've put Jesse Eienberg.
I reckon The Painkiller would go under 'Best New Comedy'.
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Post by basdfg on Apr 26, 2016 9:27:43 GMT
Isn't any acting performance eligible officially even a take over in a role. As Mel C got nominated for Blood Brothers. I imagine therefore Beverly Knight would be even if the Bodyguard is not.
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 26, 2016 9:43:33 GMT
Isn't any acting performance eligible officially even a take over in a role. As Mel C got nominated for Blood Brothers. I imagine therefore Beverly Knight would be even if the Bodyguard is not. That's really bizarre, replacements are usually not considered for awards. Perhaps they just thought that was the performance of a lifetime or something? The Olivier's make up the rules as they go along, they really need to change how they run things. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 10:44:21 GMT
Unless I am being completely blind, you have missed The Maids off?  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 11:48:01 GMT
Isn't any acting performance eligible officially even a take over in a role. As Mel C got nominated for Blood Brothers. I imagine therefore Beverly Knight would be even if the Bodyguard is not.
As for Beverly Knight, I'm not sure because if she was to be nominated wouldn't it have already happened for when was playing the role at the Adelphi? If she hadn't played it then, they maybe her performance at the Dominion would have been nominated. Even for a replacement to be nominated, I imagine it must be because of an exceptional performance, or a lack of competition. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 18:16:05 GMT
Isn't any acting performance eligible officially even a take over in a role. As Mel C got nominated for Blood Brothers. I imagine therefore Beverly Knight would be even if the Bodyguard is not.
As for Beverly Knight, I'm not sure because if she was to be nominated wouldn't it have already happened for when was playing the role at the Adelphi? If she hadn't played it then, they maybe her performance at the Dominion would have been nominated. Even for a replacement to be nominated, I imagine it must be because of an exceptional performance, or a lack of competition.Heather Headley was nominated and probably as it was the exact same year after she couldn't be. I hope she'll be up for it this year as its been like 2 years since the west end saw it and she is fab. i think she should've won for Memphis!! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 17:19:42 GMT
After seeing Sheridan in Funny Girl, just give her the Olivier. She 100% deserves that award after the performance she gave and I imagine it will happen for her. |
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Post by Phantom of London on Apr 29, 2016 9:46:53 GMT
Just updated the list;
Best Musical
Groundhog Day (Old Vic)
Aladdin (Prince Edward)
Go Between (Apollo)
Dreamgirls (Savoy)
Death Takes A Holiday (Charing Cross Theatre)(Is This Theatre Eligible?)
Titanic (Charing Cross Theatre) (Is This Theatre Eligible?)
Murder Ballad (Arts) (Is This Theatre Eligible?)
Miss Atomic Bomb (St James) (Is This Theatre Eligible?)
A Pacifist’s Guide to the War on Cancer (National)
A Man of Good Hope (Young Vic)
***An American In Paris (Added) (Dominion) (Will this be eligible for the 2016/17 Season?)
***American Idiot (Added)(Arts Theatre) (Is This Theatre Eligible?)
***Motown (Was This, This Year or Last Year?)
Best Musical (Revival)
Sunset Boulevard) (ENO)
Funny Girl (Savoy)
Showboat (New London)
Jesus Christ Superstar (Open Air)
Ragtime (Charing Cross Theatre) (Is This Theatre Eligible?)
The Threepenny Opera (National)
Best Play
The Suicide (National)
The Flick (National)
Sunset at the Villa Thalia (National)
Yerma (Young Vic)
A Man of Good Hope (Young Vic)
Lady’s Day at Emerson Bar and Grill (Wyndham)
Harry Potter and the Cursed Child (Palace)
Elegy (Donmar Warehouse)
Running Wild (Open Air)
Boy (Almedia)
Sideways (Is This Theatre Eligible?)
X (Royal Court)
They Drink it in the Congo (Almedia)
Oil (Almedia)
Father Comes Home From the Wars (Parts 1,2,&3)(Royal Court)
The Nest (Young Vic)
The Red Barn (National)
Love (National)
Mosquito (National)
A Pacifist Guide to War on Cancer (National)
***This House (Added)
*** Monster Raving Loony (Added)(Soho Theatre) (Is This Theatre Eligible?)
***Sideways (New)(St James)
***The Spoils (New)(Trafalgar Studio)
***Lawrence After Arabia (New)(Hampstead Theatre)
***1984(New)(Playhouse Theatre)(Will This be Eligble?)
***The Hunter (Young Vic)
***The End of Longing) (Was This, This Year or Last Year)
***Painkiller (Garrick Theatre) (Was This, This Year or Last Year) (Moved from revival to new play and best comedy)
Best Play (Revival)
Les Blancs (National)
Platonov (National)
Ivanov (National)
The Seagull (National)
The Deep Blue Sea (National)
The Plough and the Star (National)
A Midsummer Night’s Dream (Globe)
Taming of the Shrew (Globe)
Macbeth (Globe)
Blue/Orange (Young Vic)
The Caretaker (Old Vic)
No Man’s Land (Wyndham)
Romeo and Julliett (Garrick)
The Entertainer (Garrick)
Doctor Faustus (Duke of York)
Faith Healer (Donmar Warehouse)
Henry V (Open Air)
Richard III (Almedia)
Hamlet (Almedia)(Will This Make The Cut Off For 2016/17?)
My Mother Never Said I Should (St James) (Is This Theatre Eligible?)
How The Other Half Loves (Theatre Royal, Haymarket)
Breakfast at Tiffany’s (Theatre Royal, Haymarket)
The Libertine (Theatre Royal, Haymarket)
Cleansed (National)
Once In A Lifetime (Young Vic)(Moved To Revival)
Amadeus (National)
Hedda Gabler (National)
***Hobson’s Choice (New)(Vaudeville)
*** The Alchemist (New)(RSC –Barbican)
***Doctor Faustus (New)(RSC –Barbican)
***Cymbeline (New)(RSC –Barbican)
***King Lear (New)(RSC –Barbican)
***Love Labour Lost (New)(RSC –Haymarket)
***Love Labour Found or Much Ado About Nothing (New)(RSC –Haymarket)
***King Lear (New)(Old Vic)
***No Man’s Land (New)(Wyndham)
***The Maids (Added)
Best Leading Actor (Musical)
Andy Karl (Groundhog Day)
Dean John Wilson (Aladdin)
Michael Crawford (Go Between)(Is This Supporting?)
Michael Xavier (Sunset Boulevard)
Declan Bennett (Jesus Christ Superstar)
Simon Lipkin (Miss Atomic Bomb)
Daniel Boys (Miss Atomic Bombs)
Rory Kinnear (Threepenny Opera)
Darius (Funny Girl)
Chris Peluso (Showboat)
***Robert Fairchild (Added)(An American in Paris)
Best Leading Actress (Musical)
Jade Ewen (Aladdin)
Glenn Close (Sunset Boulevard)(Will Glenn completed enough performances?)
Amber Riley (Dreamgirls)
Sheridan Smith (Funny Girl)
Kerry Ellis (Murder Ballad)
Catherine Tate (St James)
Florence Andrews (St James)
Rosalie Craig (Threepenny Opera)
Gina Beck (Showboat)
Audra Mcdonald (Lady’s Day at Emerson Bar and Grill)(Moved From Best Actess in a Leading |Role for a Play)
***Leanne Cope (Added)(An American in Paris)
***Beverley Knight (The Bodyguard)(Will Beverley Be Eligble)
Best Leading Actor (Play)
Ben Miles (Sunset at the Villa Thalia)
Ray Fearon (Macbeth)
David Haig (Blue/Orange)
Timothy Spall (The Caretaker)
Daniel Mays (The Caretaker)
Ian McKellen (No Man’s Land)
Patrick Steward (No Man’s Land)
Jamie Parker (Harry Parker and the Cursed Child)
***Derek Jacobi (Garrick)(Moved to Supporting Role)
Richard Madden (Garrick)
Kenneth Branagh (Garrick)
Kit Harrington (Doctor Faustus)
Ralph Fiennes (Almedia)
Andrew Scott (Almedia)
Nicholas Le Prevost (How The Other Half Loves)
Dominic Cooper (The Libertine)
Danny Sapini (Les Blanc)
Javone Prince (The Suicide)
Tom Mothersdale (Cleansed)
Matthew Maher (Flick)
James McArdle (Platonov)(Name Corrected)
Geoffrey Streatfield (Ivanov)
***Martin Shaw(Added) (Hobson’s Choice)
***Anthony Sher (RSC-King Lear)
***Ian Mckellen (New)(No Man’s Land)
*** Patrick Stewart (New)(No Man’s Land)
***Daniel Weyman (New)(Sideways)
***Simon Harrison (New)(Sideways)
***Kunal Nayyar (New)(The Spoils)(Maybe Supporting)
***Jeff Rawle (New)( Lawrence After Arabia)
***Matthew Perry (The End of Longing)
***Kenneth Brangh (Painkiller)
***Rob Brydon (Painkiller)
******Jessie Effenberg(New)(The Spoils)(Moved from Best Actress to Best Actor)
Best Leading Actress (Play)
Helen McCroy (The Deep Blue Sea)
Meow Meow (A Midsummer Night’s Dream)
Tara Fitzgerald (Macbeth)
Jane Horrocks (If You Kiss Me, Kiss Me)
***Lily James (Garrick)
Zoe Wanamaker (Elegy)
Michelle Terry (Henry V)
Maureen Lipman (My Mother Never Said I Should)
Katie Brayben (My Mother Never Said I Should)
Jenny Seagrove (How The Other Half Loves)
Tamsin Outhwaite (How The Other Half Loves)
Pixie Lott (Breakfast at Tiffany’s)
Kathryn Hunter (The Emperor)
Michelle Terry (Cleansed)
Louisa Krause (Flick)
Anna Chancellor (The Seagull)
Norma Dumezwemi (Harry Potter)
Jessica Raine (X)
Caroline Faber (My Mother Never Said I Should)
***Naomi Frederick (New)(Hobson’s Choice)
*** Glenda Jackson (New)(King Lear)
*** Geraldine James (New)( Lawrence After Arabia)
*** Uzo Aduba (Added)
*** Zawe Ashton (Added)
***Laura Carmichael (Added)
Best Comedy
The Comedy About A Bank Robbery (Criterion)
***Painkiller (Garrick Theatre) (Put I this category, as well as best play)
Best Entertainment
If You Kiss Me, Kiss Me (Young Vic)(Moved From Best Play)
***Radio Times (Charing Cross Theatre)(Is This Theatre Eligible?)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 10:35:28 GMT
1984 not eligible.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 19:41:41 GMT
Can we get some official clarification; are venues like the St James, Arts and Charing Cross actually eligible? They aren't - to the best of my knowledge - SOLT houses, but then the King's Cross has somehow blurred the lines.
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Post by Jon on Apr 29, 2016 19:49:18 GMT
Can we get some official clarification; are venues like the St James, Arts and Charing Cross actually eligible? They aren't - to the best of my knowledge - SOLT houses, but then the King's Cross has somehow blurred the lines. Kings Cross isn't a fringe venue given it has over 1000 seats, given The Railway Children likely cost more to run than most shows |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 21:29:16 GMT
Can we get some official clarification; are venues like the St James, Arts and Charing Cross actually eligible? They aren't - to the best of my knowledge - SOLT houses, but then the King's Cross has somehow blurred the lines. I would say no that these aren't eligible theatres as there hasn't been many nominations recently from these venues. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 21:30:30 GMT
Can we get some official clarification; are venues like the St James, Arts and Charing Cross actually eligible? They aren't - to the best of my knowledge - SOLT houses, but then the King's Cross has somehow blurred the lines. Kings Cross isn't a fringe venue given it has over 1000 seats, given The Railway Children likely cost more to run than most shows But surely it's isn't a capacity thing. In which case shows at the Duchess, Criterion, Vaudeville or Trafalgar Studios wouldn't count, no? |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 18:05:01 GMT
Poor Show Boat may of just been shot in the foot with its closing notice. I fear it may not get the recognition it may of got if it had closed in January. Especially the likes of Gina Beck and some of the other cast.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 21:22:45 GMT
I also just thought, with the postponement of Audra in Lady Day, that has thrown Leading Actress in a Play wide open too!  |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2016 8:05:09 GMT
Poor Show Boat may of just been shot in the foot with its closing notice. I fear it may not get the recognition it may of got if it had closed in January. Especially the likes of Gina Beck and some of the other cast. I think it will be fine. It's the best reviewed show since Merrily. I can't imagine for a second it will be overlooked. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 21:42:30 GMT
Looks like School of Rock can go back on the Best New Musical list, seeing as it's opening in October at the New London!
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 23:19:50 GMT
Poor Show Boat may of just been shot in the foot with its closing notice. I fear it may not get the recognition it may of got if it had closed in January. Especially the likes of Gina Beck and some of the other cast. I think it will be fine. It's the best reviewed show since Merrily. I can't imagine for a second it will be overlooked. Best reviewed show since Bend It Like Beckham That was well rewarded at the Oliviers |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 22:44:59 GMT
So, Best New Musical nominees for next year?
My guess is Dreamgirls, Groundhog Day, The Girls and School of Rock
A great year!
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Post by Jon on May 26, 2016 22:49:11 GMT
So, Best New Musical nominees for next year? My guess is Dreamgirls, Groundhog Day, The Girls and School of Rock A great year! Wouldn't Dreamgirls be considered a revival considering how old it is? I know it's never played the West End but it cannot be considered a new musical. I reckon it'll be placed in musical revival and Aladdin get the nomination instead. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 23:01:15 GMT
So, Best New Musical nominees for next year? My guess is Dreamgirls, Groundhog Day, The Girls and School of Rock A great year! Wouldn't Dreamgirls be considered a revival considering how old it is? I know it's never played the West End but it cannot be considered a new musical. I reckon it'll be placed in musical revival and Aladdin get the nomination instead. But it's never played the West End before? Surely if the 70 year old Top Hat is considered a new musical, Dreamgirls will be too. |
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Post by Jon on May 26, 2016 23:06:00 GMT
Wouldn't Dreamgirls be considered a revival considering how old it is? I know it's never played the West End but it cannot be considered a new musical. I reckon it'll be placed in musical revival and Aladdin get the nomination instead. But it's never played the West End before? Surely if the 70 year old Top Hat is considered a new musical, Dreamgirls will be too. Top Hat was a stage adaptation of the film so that was a new musical. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 23:07:21 GMT
But it's never played the West End before? Surely if the 70 year old Top Hat is considered a new musical, Dreamgirls will be too. Top Hat was a stage adaptation of the film so that was a new musical. Dreamgirls is still a new musical to the West End. |
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