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Post by karloscar on Aug 28, 2018 14:43:08 GMT
Cultural portrayals of politicians only reflect the reality I don't think it does - when Jo Cox was murdered everyone suddenly seemed surprised that here was a person in parliament who seemed to be pretty decent (even if her husband wasn't). The media - to its eternal shame - likes to focus on and give platforms to 'characters' rather than bread-and-butter politicians, so they are the ones whose careers thrive and who the public sees. When I lived in London I'd go to political meetings and some of those I met seemed to be OK human beings. [br Yes, but nobody ever got to be Home Secretary by being nice. They tend to be ruthless self-seeking bastards for the last half century at least. |
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Post by crowblack on Aug 28, 2018 15:05:46 GMT
They tend to be ruthless self-seeking bastards A friend of a friend worked for one and thought he was, in person, lovely. I only saw him on TV and the policies he put through, and I didn't. Representation matters, and if the only politicians we see on TV are villains/hapless morons in comedy or drama or the appalling ones whose 'provocative' opinions get them more airtime on QT, 'regular' people will think this isn't a world for them and turn their backs on it. And they have. Maybe there has been a British version of the West Wing to counterbalance the relentless negativity and I've missed it. |
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Post by karloscar on Aug 28, 2018 16:30:19 GMT
Why? There's far less to worry about in fictional and satiric portrayals of politicians than there is in the blatant manipulation of truth and propaganda we are fed constantly by the main stream media. That's what would put me off, not a mere piece of drama.
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Post by crowblack on Aug 28, 2018 18:07:00 GMT
That's what would put me off And so they win. The Bullingdon boys keep politics as a game to themselves (thinks: maybe there's a reason the mainstream media keeps commissioning dramas that show all politicians as venal and all optimists and idealists as doomed to fail.) |
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Post by CG on the loose on Aug 28, 2018 18:27:49 GMT
My first job was working for an MP and he was the epitome of all that is bad about politics, there not for what he could give to the office but for the power and influence it could give him (which turned out to be far less than he craved, and I stayed up through the night watching the election results that brought it all crumbling down around him). There were and are good people too though, people whose values we can respect even if we don't share their politics. But they doesn't make the news... until they're the subject of a bad news story, which brings us back to Jo Cox.
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Aug 28, 2018 20:58:00 GMT
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Post by justfran on Aug 28, 2018 20:58:00 GMT
I’m really enjoying this too, as it’s not usually the type of drama I would watch. Agree that the Gina McKee character will become more involved and have a bigger role. Find it slightly annoying how much he calls her Ma’am though!
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Post by peggs on Aug 28, 2018 21:13:51 GMT
I was getting a bit bored mid episode 2 until it all kicked off, hadn't anticipated that. Am bit disappointed they're already at it to be honest, seemed a bit predictable unless of course it's all a ploy on one of their parts to manipulate the other. I am rather simplistic in my viewing that I think I can't like having a baddie to dislike so this has given me quite a lot of options. Love Gina Mckee. And this is very good for playing 'ohh I've seen them on stage'. It's the kind of programme I don't dare miss in case I accidently find out what happened.
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Post by peggs on Aug 28, 2018 21:19:38 GMT
PS was impressed that teacher retained her cup of coffee throughout not even appearing to spill any, most calm in a crisis.
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Post by dlevi on Aug 30, 2018 7:17:58 GMT
I've loved both episodes. Performances, direction and the ongoing anxiety and suspense. Not since the first two seasons of Spooks have I been this impressed! Let's hope they keep up the pace and the detail. Knowing Mercurio's work though I'm pretty sure they will.
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Post by lynette on Aug 30, 2018 8:18:10 GMT
PS was impressed that teacher retained her cup of coffee throughout not even appearing to spill any, most calm in a crisis. Well... is that how they do it in schools now? Kids needed to be on the floor in protected space and a lot quicker to get there. A drill the kids know or a code word to other teachers...all that. But real life takes you by surprise I suppose. |
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Post by Stephen on Aug 31, 2018 0:34:06 GMT
Well, I've found this quite exciting. Watched the first two episodes tonight in Glasgow with my mother and a lovely bottle of Malbec. It feels very close to home and jumps from being mundane to very thrilling quickly. I like it. If all else fails, Richard Madden is F I T.
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Post by david on Sept 2, 2018 21:06:49 GMT
Well, for 50 mins I thought this was going to be a very quiet episode in comparison to the previous weeks with not much going on, then the last 10mins we got the bomb blast. This really is a good drama. You really can’t tell the good guys from the bad ones. Hopefully there has been enough interest from viewers to get a second series.
Also, why is it there is never anything decent on tv for weeks on end then suddenly you get this and then Vanity Fair on ITV clashing?
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Post by oxfordsimon on Sept 2, 2018 21:24:11 GMT
It is hard to see how the plot is going to play out.
We are being told that the Security Services are evil at the moment - but are they?
Is David being set up as a fall guy?
So much to speculate about.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Sept 2, 2018 21:25:02 GMT
And for those who appreciate such things, we did get Madden buttocks this evening.
#wasRyanwatching?
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Post by david on Sept 2, 2018 21:29:45 GMT
And for those who appreciate such things, we did get Madden buttocks this evening. #wasRyanwatching? He was probably watching Vanity Fair on ITV for those lovely gents in a uniform. |
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Post by crowblack on Sept 2, 2018 23:07:51 GMT
those lovely gents in a uniform. Including Tom Bateman. |
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Post by alece10 on Sept 3, 2018 7:06:16 GMT
Well, for 50 mins I thought this was going to be a very quiet episode in comparison to the previous weeks with not much going on, then the last 10mins we got the bomb blast. This really is a good drama. You really can’t tell the good guys from the bad ones. Hopefully there has been enough interest from viewers to get a second series. Also, why is it there is never anything decent on tv for weeks on end then suddenly you get this and then Vanity Fair on ITV clashing? Was thinking exactly the same. Here we go settling down nicely after week 1 and 2 roller coasters them 10 mins from the end literally "boom". Needed a camomile tea before bed after that. |
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Post by londonmzfitz on Sept 3, 2018 10:14:18 GMT
Pam Ayres on Twitter ...
I wish I had a Bodyguard to keep me safe from harm,
A manly sort of geezer with a gritty sort of charm,
To stand alert and ready in the corridors of power,
And drive the limo backwards at a hundred miles an hour.
A Bodyguard, a Bodyguard, my foes to scrutinise,
And if they look suspicious, shoot ‘em straight between the eyes,
Protect me from the terrorist, the scheming of the toff,
And give a gal some lovin’ if her husbands buggered off.
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Post by lynette on Sept 3, 2018 13:38:05 GMT
To tell the truth I’m a bit lost. I can give you the plot of Hamlet in a couple of sentences but I couldn’t do this. Was the guy who had the fact updates on the phone and to whom? And how on earth would he give her the updates in full view of everyone. Or what? And no dogs? Too expensive? I would have thought a dog there at the door would have prevented this. And if they are so bloomin clever why don’t they bug hotel room? Too old school?
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Post by TallPaul on Sept 3, 2018 13:57:52 GMT
And why was the Home Secretary moved into a hotel in the first place? She would have been moved to a flat in Admiralty House, surely? And why did the Dons who greeted her at St Matthew's have so little to say? Either they were all socialists who refused to make small talk with a Conservative minister, or background artists have to be paid extra if they say more than one word! What I we need is Natalie Dew to come back and use her investigative journalism skills (and beautiful eyes) to get to the bottom of everything.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 15:05:51 GMT
I completely lost the thread of the plot once those buns were unleashed.
Made me not begrudge the licence fee one little bit.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Sept 3, 2018 17:35:15 GMT
Definitely getting worse by the episode. Not even hiding plot holes now
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Post by david on Sept 3, 2018 17:47:49 GMT
I completely lost the the plot once those buns were unleashed.* *edited for accuracy. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 3, 2018 19:41:54 GMT
Just caught up with the first three.
Started well, descending into ridiculous.
Entertaining though. Gina cannot disguise that accent no matter how hard she tries can she.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 20:56:50 GMT
Definitely getting worse by the episode. Not even hiding plot holes now Again When you compare this to US dramas It just looks pathetic Plot holes can be covered By good acting See Ozark on Netflix You can’t get a more farfetched plot But it works I don’t know why British TV is so sh*t And cheap budget And they hire rubbish writers And pay them pittance |
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