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Post by couldileaveyou on Mar 15, 2019 21:33:38 GMT
I am no lawyer, but could they actually fire her for this without risking to be sued? Was it not proposed that Sierra Boggess be 'fired' for her ethnicity in the West Side Story saga. I'm sure they couldn't fire her for that, she stepped back after the backlash
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 21:50:01 GMT
Was it not proposed that Sierra Boggess be 'fired' for her ethnicity in the West Side Story saga. I'm sure they couldn't fire her for that, she stepped back after the backlash So equally could a producer fire someone for their religious persuasion? I'm with you, just demonstrating the point, btw.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Mar 15, 2019 21:54:31 GMT
I'm sure they couldn't fire her for that, she stepped back after the backlash So equally could a producer fire someone for their religious persuasion? I'm with you, just demonstrating the point, btw. I mean i think she should totally step down, I was only wondering if there is legal ground for firing her.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 22:00:21 GMT
Bless her heart though. We all thought she looked so nice and sweet in her little white dress in The Color Purple concert at Cadogan Hall. Little did we know...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 22:07:09 GMT
Other performers have started responding to this story. A great response from Lucie Shorthouse!
I actually found Lucie's response once I saw her comment on this discussion:
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Post by Being Alive on Mar 15, 2019 23:28:46 GMT
Literally what is that clown talking about.
Also - RE Shenton and Curve. Nikolai banned him from Curve for some reason, so none of the National critics turned up to Leicester for Les Mis Press Night - which is why the press night happened in dublin...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 23:41:23 GMT
My sentiment exactly.
This must be a nightmare for their PR team, because all this sh*t on twitter is from this one story revolving around this disgraceful story.
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Post by Seriously on Mar 16, 2019 0:05:07 GMT
I'm not sure the production company has any legal rights over her life before she met them, so they'd possibly be on thin legal ground if they "fired" her for this.
Chances are they'll have a nice little chat tomorrow morning, and come to a "mutual" decision..... one where she gets a part in a future production, but bows out of this one.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 0:32:50 GMT
I agree Seriously I think that is what will happen. It is what is best at this point. There ahs been a massive backlash on social media toward her and the show for casting her. What would be best for both parties is to remove her from this production and it would be in her best itnerest to make an agreement to maybe do another production at some point or just leave all together. Because even if she stayed, no one in the cast will want to work with her I imagine, and it is a tarnished opinjon regardless if she apologises or not. In terms of Curve and Hippodrome, I wouldn't even include her feelings in the statement. They need to just say this isn't happening anymore because of recent events, done. The apology needs to come from her and her alone as this is not the producers, cast, crew or team members fault or indicretion, its all on her and she should be the one to bear the brunt.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Mar 16, 2019 7:14:04 GMT
Literally what is that clown talking about. Also - RE Shenton and Curve. Nikolai banned him from Curve for some reason, so none of the National critics turned up to Leicester for Les Mis Press Night - which is why the press night happened in dublin... The reason was that he continuously talked crap about them. Why welcome someone who didn't support them and was continuously finding ways to put them down and criticise on twitter and in articles? Even in some cases seeming to create an article or tweet subject just so it can get a jibe in. He's even made jibes about how it looks and called it "the least appealing place to be in the world". He tweeted a special twitter review, not an official one, of AOAAG that basically called it a travesty it made it to the stage and has implied he doesn't think that Curve should be getting it's arts funding. Seeing as he hates the programming and theatre so much, he wouldn't have been interested to come anyway, so he can't really have an issue with it. I imagine they are the not the only ones who's like to ban him but probably the only ones who had the guts to to do it. I'd ban him from any theatre that i attend personally, let alone if i run one. And your (and his) mate Mr Woodward too LOL.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Mar 16, 2019 9:01:17 GMT
I don't think we will get a response until maybe Monday. They will probably need a few days to sit down with her and everyone involved to work out what to do.
I feel sorry for the production and two theatres, this is obviously very damaging. Even if she is re cast you don't know if people will think negatively of the production or boycott it just because of that initial casting, which i don't think would be fair. This is also the directors first big show and for all this storm to be happening must be quite difficult. Obviously if this actress stays on then we are really in a storm here.
On the actress herself, i have to say that i am giving her the benefit of the doubt. The message was posted when she was young. It's clear she was brought up in a religious family and would have had these beliefs ingrained in her. Moving to a big city and becoming involved in this industry may have opened her eyes and opened her up to accepting and supporting things she didn't back then. I find it hard to believe she has worked in the shows she has, alongside actors she has and has the friends she has, if she is still so against homosexuality.
That said, i think it's probably a step to far for her to actually play a LGBT role if she's had these views in the past and has the family that she has. There's no doubt about it that keeping her on would make the production suffer, now that it has made such a uproar.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 9:04:00 GMT
Her Twitter trail is full of quotes from the Bible, she's like a little Christian fortune cookie, so it's hardly surprising that those are (or at the very least were) her views. She's merely quoting something that she's probably been brainwashed with since birth. In fairness, she could also have changed her mind since then after working in the industry these past few years. People do. Who would have thought, for example, that it would have been a Conservative Prime Minister supporting gay marriage back then in the face of opposition from many of his own party? Of course, she may not have changed her opinion at all.
Her silence is worrying I have to admit. It suggests to me that she is either (a) working on some form of statement to try to smooth over the waters or (b) she still has those views and is waiting to now be let go from the production so that she can play the martyr. If her views had changed, one would think that she would be mortified by the publication of this old post and make some form of immediate apology (no matter how unpolished it might have been) to say "I thought this once but I have changed my mind" but again, she hasn't said a word. I'd be surprised if she had changed her opinion though, the Bible says homosexuality is wrong and she seems like a pretty committed Christian. How she gets by day after day in this old business of show with gayers on every corner I don't know though!
Unless a suitable statement comes out from her, I can't see how Leicester Curve can keep her in the production and neither should they. There's got to be at least one gayer in that show who won't want to work with her. Can't imagine Sir Ian McKellen will be too happy with them if they keep her when he shows up at the theatre a couple of weeks before the musical starts.
Having said all of that, I might just be entirely disgusted by the fact they're still using the American spelling of the word 'colour' in the title. Last time I looked, Leicester was nowhere near Ohio.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 9:28:12 GMT
Birmingham Hippodrome have released the same initial statement, but are commenting on all posts refering to the incident, as opposed to Curve who commented on just the one.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 9:34:24 GMT
This issue could completely de-rail this show before it has even taken flight.She needs to make a statement now so that there is complete transparency on the views she holds today.Both the Curve and the Hippo will be devastated as well as they both work so hard to try and support work that is inclusive and this controversy will not sit well with them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 9:43:00 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if contractually there's some sort of stay written into artist contracts these days that prevents them from commenting on such situations without prior direct consultation with the production team. No doubt there will be a flurry of crisis meetings between the Curve and Hippodrome today.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 9:43:40 GMT
Birmingham Hippodrome have released the same initial statement, but are commenting on all posts refering to the incident, as opposed to Curve who commented on just the one. I wonder if someone from the Birmingham Hippodrome team was tempted to reply to 'Robyn' saying "oh eff orf Robyn, we didn't say that we were supporting this attitude at all, we said that we were looking into it and will respond accordingly".
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 9:47:29 GMT
It's so weird though because alot of people are calling out the Curve and Hippodrome, when they are not the ones who decided to be homophobic assholes. Like, I get that people are mad, I'm furious, but it's not their fault.
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Post by apubleed on Mar 16, 2019 10:03:28 GMT
Random question, assuming the production still goes ahead (lol)..if you have never been to Leicester or Birmingham before which would be a better experience for a tourist to do a day trip?
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Post by No. on Mar 16, 2019 10:06:57 GMT
Random question, assuming the production still goes ahead (lol)..if you have never been to Leicester or Birmingham before which would be a better experience for a tourist to do a day trip? Birmingham’s good if you like spending your money, our two shopping centres are right by the theatre 😂
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Post by learfan on Mar 16, 2019 10:26:44 GMT
Random question, assuming the production still goes ahead (lol)..if you have never been to Leicester or Birmingham before which would be a better experience for a tourist to do a day trip? In terms of "tourism" neither! And i work in Birmingham.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 10:28:52 GMT
Random question, assuming the production still goes ahead (lol)..if you have never been to Leicester or Birmingham before which would be a better experience for a tourist to do a day trip? Leicester. The Richard III Visitor Centre is rather nice.
To be fair, if you think The Nash is gorgeous then you'll probably like Birmingham. They really took concrete to their hearts there.
I don't think they do border checks in either city but probably best to take your passport just in case.
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Post by TheatreTwittic on Mar 16, 2019 11:16:18 GMT
Random question, assuming the production still goes ahead (lol)..if you have never been to Leicester or Birmingham before which would be a better experience for a tourist to do a day trip? It does depend on what you're after. Leicester has a bit more history to explore but Birmingham has a greater shopping experience, as well as the things like the thinktank science museum. The curve is quite a bit cheaper ticket wise if that impacts your decision too.
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Post by Stasia on Mar 16, 2019 11:18:22 GMT
Seyi’s colleague on her being in Little Shop and not supporting LGBT
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Post by HereForTheatre on Mar 16, 2019 11:23:02 GMT
Oh that's damaging. I don't think she can continue now for sure.
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Post by wickedgrin on Mar 16, 2019 11:28:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 11:32:01 GMT
I mean, honestly, how can Curve and Hippodrome continue on with her in her in that role. Because now that members of the team, and cast members have seen all this, they won't be happy to work with her either. This is truly disgusting.
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Post by LaLuPone on Mar 16, 2019 11:33:35 GMT
Yeah I think that second tweet is the final nail in the coffin, I don’t think she can continue in this LGBT+ role now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 11:49:40 GMT
Ouch. That second one is going to hurt.
It will be interesting to see who comes out to support her (as I imagine there will be those who do).
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Post by hulmeman on Mar 16, 2019 12:20:33 GMT
I note that this actor also appeared in "Spring Awakening" at Hope Mill a venue owned by, and a show co-produced by gay people. So, clearly she doesn't have a problem taking the money generated by gay people. I don't think the bible liked hypocrisy either. Somebody show her Matthew chapter 23 verses 13-29.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 12:22:41 GMT
And an actress that young, where are her parents?!
... oh wait.
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