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Post by kathryn on May 9, 2018 7:36:13 GMT
That's an unusual allegation. Looking at her last three reviews in the Guardian (Chess, Othello and One Green Bottle), there are twelve cast members named... Oh I'm glad someone had the inclination to actually look. She might not give a run-down of all performers (thank god) but I don't think that's really a bad thing.... From her review of Cheek By Jowl’s production of Cymbeline way back in 2007: Clearly not averse to naming cast members at all! I believe she gets the credit for being the first to say this about Hiddleston - and probably about many others who started out in theatre and are now stars. |
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Post by n1david on May 9, 2018 11:18:20 GMT
Agree with prof brock. I never liked her, always annoying that she never mentioned cast members. So nothing to miss from me. Not sure I'd agree, in recent years she usually assiduously told us how many were black or white or whatever (but no similar count was available for Guardian journalists of course). . Oddly, I’ve looked again at her three most recent reviews and not once does she mention the colour of an actor’s skin (even for Othello, when it might be deemed relevant). |
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Post by Jan on May 9, 2018 16:58:02 GMT
Oh I'm glad someone had the inclination to actually look. She might not give a run-down of all performers (thank god) but I don't think that's really a bad thing.... From her review of Cheek By Jowl’s production of Cymbeline way back in 2007: Clearly not averse to naming cast members at all! I believe she gets the credit for being the first to say this about Hiddleston - and probably about many others who started out in theatre and are now stars. I saw that (it was excellent) but never realised until now it was Hiddleston. |
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Post by Jan on May 9, 2018 16:58:41 GMT
Not sure I'd agree, in recent years she usually assiduously told us how many were black or white or whatever (but no similar count was available for Guardian journalists of course). . Oddly, I’ve looked again at her three most recent reviews and not once does she mention the colour of an actor’s skin (even for Othello, when it might be deemed relevant). Too small a sample. |
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Post by n1david on May 9, 2018 17:39:39 GMT
Oddly, I’ve looked again at her three most recent reviews and not once does she mention the colour of an actor’s skin (even for Othello, when it might be deemed relevant). Too small a sample. Ok, I took “assiduously” to mean “more often than not”, given that it generally means giving due care and attention. Failing to do so on three occasions seems fairly careless if it’s a goal. Perhaps you’d like to direct me to a review where she demonstrated such assiduity? |
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Post by kathryn on May 9, 2018 20:00:29 GMT
From her review of Cheek By Jowl’s production of Cymbeline way back in 2007: Clearly not averse to naming cast members at all! I believe she gets the credit for being the first to say this about Hiddleston - and probably about many others who started out in theatre and are now stars. I saw that (it was excellent) but never realised until now it was Hiddleston. And Gwendoline Christie (of Game of Thrones/Star Wars fame) played the Queen! |
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Post by callum on May 10, 2018 2:14:38 GMT
Frankly the culture section of the Guardian is a total shambles. Letting LG go is just another nail in the coffin. Who is running this car crash? Culture needs a brand new editor ASAP.
I still go to the guardian for the news but their TV/film coverage is feature after feature of sanctimonious snobbish sneering telling people that they shouldn’t like what they actually like. Weekly column of ‘when good TV goes bad’ is just one example, as well as the many articles this week about how Amy Schumer’s new film isn’t feminist enough, and the ‘problem’ with x film and y tv show. The virtue signalling and sense of entitlement and superiority is nauseous. Vulture and The Hollywood Reporter far better, with THR even doing their own West End reviews now.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2018 7:28:54 GMT
Frankly the culture section of the Guardian is a total shambles. Letting LG go is just another nail in the coffin. Who is running this car crash? Culture needs a brand new editor ASAP. I still go to the guardian for the news but their TV/film coverage is feature after feature of sanctimonious snobbish sneering telling people that they shouldn’t like what they actually like. Weekly column of ‘when good TV goes bad’ is just one example, as well as the many articles this week about how Amy Schumer’s new film isn’t feminist enough, and the ‘problem’ with x film and y tv show. The virtue signalling and sense of entitlement and superiority is nauseous. Vulture and The Hollywood Reporter far better, with THR even doing their own West End reviews now. Vulture and the Hollywood Reporter are both American though, so vaguely useful for screen but not for stage articles. The Stage is fine but it's a sorry state of affairs when all you have is the trade paper.
As for websites telling you what you shouldn't like, that's the way that pretty much all culture sections have gone. All that matters is that more people click on more pages rather than having an engagement with an artform.
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Post by foxa on May 10, 2018 7:37:53 GMT
There's an interesting/informative article in Exeunt about Lyn Gardner: exeuntmagazine.com/features/lyn-gardner/?source=popBTW - in terms of critical writing, I am a new convert to Exeunt. A couple of their reviewers write with such flair, passion and knowledge. I hope they are paid, but I suspect they aren't. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2018 8:01:23 GMT
Exeunt have a friends scheme, the income from which they use to pay their writers. I don't know if all of their writers are paid, I don't know what the rates are, but they're fully aware that writers *should* be paid, and are working hard to be inline with that, rather than making excuses: exeuntmagazine.com/friends-of-exeunt/ |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2018 8:18:16 GMT
Exeunt have a friends scheme, the income from which they use to pay their writers. I don't know if all of their writers are paid, I don't know what the rates are, but they're fully aware that writers *should* be paid, and are working hard to be inline with that, rather than making excuses: exeuntmagazine.com/friends-of-exeunt/Thought I'd give a friendly but factual answer before someone with another agenda jumps in  They currently don't pay reviewers (mostly) but would like to in the future. But (rightly imo) consider the free tickets to be a partial remuneration for time etc. I believe they then pay for interviews, longer opinion pieces etc. But I don't know how much. Considering they are independent and unfunded, this is far more generous that say, unnamed but easy to guess fully Arts Council Funded publications in my neck of the woods, just y'know for argument's sake. |
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Post by kathryn on May 10, 2018 8:25:59 GMT
Frankly the culture section of the Guardian is a total shambles. Letting LG go is just another nail in the coffin. Who is running this car crash? Culture needs a brand new editor ASAP. I still go to the guardian for the news but their TV/film coverage is feature after feature of sanctimonious snobbish sneering telling people that they shouldn’t like what they actually like. Weekly column of ‘when good TV goes bad’ is just one example, as well as the many articles this week about how Amy Schumer’s new film isn’t feminist enough, and the ‘problem’ with x film and y tv show. The virtue signalling and sense of entitlement and superiority is nauseous. Vulture and The Hollywood Reporter far better, with THR even doing their own West End reviews now. It’s not just the Culture section. I know so many people who have stopped reading the Gruan. Even the celeb profiles have this sneering, ‘gotcha!’ tone, and the state of the comments section whenever they interview successful white male actors... I’m as woolly a liberal as they come, and even I’m starting to call it ‘identity politics bollocks’. Their coverage of the gender pay gap story was appalling! And that’s a really important significant story that needed to be reported accurately to help people understand what it was about and why it was important. It’s almost as if they’re trying to drive their left-leaning readership to the right-wing papers. |
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Post by n1david on Oct 4, 2018 11:54:30 GMT
Lyn Gardner promising “a radical new platform for theatre criticism”, launching Oct 24. lynsnextstep.com |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Oct 4, 2018 19:25:15 GMT
Are drinks at the event free ?
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Post by n1david on Oct 24, 2018 17:06:01 GMT
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