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Post by foxa on Oct 14, 2018 8:17:45 GMT
I saw the original productions of The Grace of Mary Traverse and Three Birds Alighting on a Field at the Royal Court and really rated them both. Janet McTeer in Mary Traverse was a marvel. I think a collection of work by terrific female playwrights could could do well in the WE IF it was cast as brilliantly as the Pinter season has been.
I managed to book £10 slightly restricted view tickets for the 'Celebration' Pinter (forget the number - 5 maybe) around Christmas time when my son will be back - he's been a Pinter fan from way back. But I think it was Dumb Waiter that he really wanted to see.
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Post by dani on Oct 14, 2018 9:08:03 GMT
Hannah Khalil isn't exactly an obscure playwright. She's certainly well-known and well-regarded as part of the new generation of up and coming playwrights within the industry. I'd say she's one of perhaps 5 of 6 emerging playwrights who are causing the most excitement within the theatre world right now. I redact my "you" comment which was a response to the tone of the discussion in general. Thank you. I have to admit I'd not heard of her, so will keep an eye out for her work.
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Post by bordeaux on Oct 14, 2018 9:42:48 GMT
Caryl Churchill would be worthy of a season like this, or just a series of major revivals. I don't think Serious Money has been seen in London since the original production. She's 80 this year so some sort of festival would seem appropriate. But she might not approve of a West End venue for her work.
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Post by dani on Oct 14, 2018 10:25:33 GMT
Caryl Churchill would be worthy of a season like this, or just a series of major revivals. I don't think Serious Money has been seen in London since the original production. She's 80 this year so some sort of festival would seem appropriate. But she might not approve of a West End venue for her work. Apparently there were plans for a celebration of her work to coincide with the birthday, I think at the Royal Court, but she didn't like the idea of all the fuss.
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Post by learfan on Oct 14, 2018 11:24:17 GMT
Hannah Khalil isn't exactly an obscure playwright. She's certainly well-known and well-regarded as part of the new generation of up and coming playwrights within the industry. I'd say she's one of perhaps 5 of 6 emerging playwrights who are causing the most excitement within the theatre world right now. I redact my "you" comment which was a response to the tone of the discussion in general. Thank you. I have to admit I'd not heard of her, so will keep an eye out for her work. Me neither. There have been mini seasons of Churchill and Kane at Sheffield but a months long season in the WE, thats a whole new game. Cant see it happening.
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Post by asfound on Oct 14, 2018 18:55:26 GMT
I’m not sure where the resistence to women of colour having opinions comes from. Or maybe it's just resistance to asinine opinions in general? But no, I guess any excuse to reduce people to labels and demonstrate worthiness must be taken.
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Post by Fleance on Oct 14, 2018 19:08:13 GMT
I'm a fan of Timberlake Wertenbaker's play After Darwin (well, at least I'm a fan of the "Darwin" part of the play), which was produced at Hampstead about 20 years ago. But I think a female playwright who deserves a London season is the American Paula Vogel, who has done some fine work, most recently with Indecent.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 9:06:11 GMT
Try TodayTix daily Rush tickets. Good idea. I’m going to try on Monday and if I don’t get them, just suck it up and pay. I’ve already organised the babysitter... I’m sure you have all been holding your breath to know how I got on. I got Rush tickets through TodayTix, so I am doing an at desk happy dance.
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Post by dani on Oct 15, 2018 9:14:25 GMT
I'm a fan of Timberlake Wertenbaker's play After Darwin (well, at least I'm a fan of the "Darwin" part of the play), which was produced at Hampstead about 20 years ago. But I think a female playwright who deserves a London season is the American Paula Vogel, who has done some fine work, most recently with Indecent. The only plays of Vogel's I can recall being done in London are How I Learned to Drive and Desdemona.
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Post by learfan on Oct 15, 2018 12:08:23 GMT
I'm a fan of Timberlake Wertenbaker's play After Darwin (well, at least I'm a fan of the "Darwin" part of the play), which was produced at Hampstead about 20 years ago. But I think a female playwright who deserves a London season is the American Paula Vogel, who has done some fine work, most recently with Indecent. ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 20:48:26 GMT
I want the black dress Hayley Squires wore.
I want the plant stand from “The Lovers.”
I want the coffee pot and cups from “The Collection.”
I want David Suchet prowling around in a cape.
I’d quite like to touch Russell Tovey’s arms.
Oh the aesthetic was just right up my street. The moment when the blinds are projected onto the stage and the music’s all new wave. Pink and black and white. So bold.
I loved this and I am so glad I got to see it.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Oct 16, 2018 22:38:54 GMT
I quite want an olive.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 23:58:05 GMT
I'm a fan of Timberlake Wertenbaker's play After Darwin (well, at least I'm a fan of the "Darwin" part of the play), which was produced at Hampstead about 20 years ago. But I think a female playwright who deserves a London season is the American Paula Vogel, who has done some fine work, most recently with Indecent. I found How I Learned to Drive thuddingly obvious. I think there are much better American woman playwrights. I was sad that London never got to see Mary Zimmerman’s Metamorphoses for example (okay, it needed a swimming pool onstage but why not?) As for who gets produced, I’m very much an ‘and’ person. The world is better with variety and ‘or’ people are the enemy of that. Have a season of a ‘classic’ playwright in one place and balance that with a new playwrights season elsewhere, for example. Different approaches bring different audiences and London (if not most regional theatre centres) can cope with that easily.
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Post by asfound on Oct 17, 2018 6:52:35 GMT
That silly Donald Trump skit really derailed Pinter One for me. I thought the poem (Death) was a nice touch although a little unnecessary but I don't know why they felt the need to insert a third rate comedy sketch with a Trump impersonator in the midst of all the violence and horror of Mountain Language and One for the Road. If they had to include it for the sake of completion, surely it would have suited another of the collections better? Not sure how I really feel about unpublished notepad sketchings being used like this either, but I guess that's a whole other matter.
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Post by Fleance on Oct 17, 2018 12:57:32 GMT
I found How I Learned to Drive thuddingly obvious. I think there are much better American woman playwrights. I was sad that London never got to see Mary Zimmerman’s Metamorphoses for example (okay, it needed a swimming pool onstage but why not?) An interesting point about the work of both these women -- Zimmerman and Vogel -- is that (arguably) their best work (Metamorphosis and Indecent) represents re-workings of plays by male playwrights (Ovid and Sholem Asch).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 8:48:52 GMT
Pinter 2 was good fun yesterday. Loved the clothes!! Ostentatious over-laugher behind me was driving me crazy. The kindle version of the short play compendium is £6.99 compared to £18.99 for the print edition if that's of any use to people!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 12:45:19 GMT
TodayTix doing £15 tickets for 24 hours for 3&4. Felt a bit duped when I discovered that the £15 tickets are restricted view standing and it’s only £13 off the actual price.
I guess they got me to click, but it has made me wary of them.
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Post by Marwood on Nov 2, 2018 17:36:37 GMT
Has anyone been to see Pinter Three yet? It started a week ago and thought someone would have voiced their opinions by now (I’m not seeing it until the 17th)
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Post by learfan on Nov 2, 2018 17:52:57 GMT
Has anyone been to see Pinter Three yet? It started a week ago and thought someone would have voiced their opinions by now (I’m not seeing it until the 17th) Me too! Going to 3 and 4 same day.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Nov 2, 2018 18:26:43 GMT
Also there for 3 and 4 on the 17th, what is the coll collective noun for Boarders, it looks as if there will be a few of us there that day.
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Post by peggs on Nov 2, 2018 20:13:03 GMT
Due there monday
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Post by Latecomer on Nov 2, 2018 21:37:01 GMT
I am also going to Pinter 3 on Nov 17th....an audience of board members? An ovation?
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Post by Marwood on Nov 2, 2018 22:10:25 GMT
I’m at the matinee on the 17th (seeing Jeff Goldblum at Cadogan Hall in the evening) - so please hide your disappointment if you don’t get to see me on that date 😆
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Post by Steve on Nov 3, 2018 3:02:54 GMT
Not seen Pinter Three, but Pinter Four is an absolute gem, in my opinion. "Moonlight" is very good, "Night School" a total and absolute revelation, an early Pinter that bears all his trademarks, but is also a superbly plotted conventional comedy, with director Ed Stamboulian getting everything right in pacing and energising the piece, and Al Weaver the best posturing, fearful, sympathetic Pinter schlemiel I've seen. Some spoilers follow. . . I had seen the David Bradley "Moonlight" at the Donmar, and while I liked it, somehow this one got to me more. I mean, this story of a man on his deathbed, bemoaning the sons that won't visit, is about as sentimental as Harold Pinter got, in my experience anyway, but when you have a tough guy like Robert Glenister, as Andy, clear-eyed and joking away his last hours with his wife, Bel, the super-spiritual Brid Brennan (who, like her Aunt Maggie Faraway in "The Ferryman, seems to have a foot in both worlds), the effect is to squeeze any sentimental leanings you have like a lemon until the juice spills from your eyes. Director Lyndsey Turner chooses to stage the sons' Vladimir-Estragon-like inconsequential playful chitchat directly over the bed where Glenister's Andy remains lying, so that the sons he yearns for seem within his reach. The tough man no longer tough, the jokers at the end of their jokes, a wife and mother bridging worlds. There is also the ghost of a daughter, played desperately young and fragile and full of thwarted compassion, by Isis Hainsworth, flitting in and out of scenes. This felt like how the world ends. Soppy Pinter can work, not an oxymoron after all. After the break, we got Pinter's 1960 screenplay for television, "Night School." I've never seen it staged or on tv, but this production is fantastically furious and funny, as Ed Stamboulian, a Jamie Lloyd associate director from the days of "The Hothouse" and "The Pride" (which also featured Al Weaver), is inspired in every choice he makes. Placing a female drummer with a drum kit (Abbie Finn, who plays a character called Mavis) on a revolving stage, like a chorus, the play becomes a whirling frenzy of sound and fury, as her drum beats spur and comment on the action. The action as such involves Al Weaver's Walter coming home after a stretch in prison to find his batty aunts, Brid Brennan and Janie Dee, have rented his room out to Jessica Barden's Sally. Barden is wonderfully inscrutable as Sally, an impenetrable wall of a person whose slippery sweet surface Walter is desperate to break, if only to get his room back. Pinter power games ensue, roping in not only the batty aunts, but also macho landlord, Solto, played with easy self-regarding confidence by Robert Glenister. The developments are as perfect as any plot I can imagine, and when this comedy drama ended I was disappointed only because I wanted more. Stamboulian makes every moment pure pleasure. The acting ensemble for "Night School" is peerless: Janie Dee and Brid Brennan bounce off each other beautifully as the out-of-control aunts, deploying Pinter's penchant for pedantically sweating silly inconsequential stuff to delightful ends; Glenister glowers, Barden breezes; and through it all, the wonderfully weaselly Weaver sneaks and snivels and stutters his sweaty way through the plot, which includes one amazing scene which presages Pinter's subsequent "The Homecoming," a scene rendered so perfectly by Weaver and Barden that I thought it was better done here than there. This is an absolute delight, resurrecting the audience's zest, supposing the sad poetry of mortality in "Moonlight" sank your spirits. A brilliant double bill. This Jamie Lloyd programmed season is proving to be one of his best ever! Moonlight: 4 and a half stars. Night School: 5 stars.
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Post by Lopsided on Nov 3, 2018 7:45:33 GMT
Thanks Steve - you've convinced me to return my 'I'm Not Running' ticket and go to this instead.
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