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Post by jason71 on Feb 2, 2018 13:41:37 GMT
Just had an email off the Old Vic. They say that The Divide is four hours & five mins long.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 13:47:05 GMT
*takes several deep breaths* It's fine, it's still shorter than it would have been if they hadn't cut it down, it's fine, it's still shorter than it would have been if they hadn't cut it down, it's fine, it's still shorter than it would have been if they hadn't cut it down.....
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Post by couldileaveyou on Feb 2, 2018 13:51:06 GMT
It's exactly like Perestroika, but the absence of a naked Russell Tovey makes it sound like 7 hours.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 14:56:57 GMT
I see they're using the RSC's trick to make it sound shorter - "Running time: 3 hours 45 minutes plus a 20-minute interval"
Imagine what the queues for the loos will be like in the interval after a 2 hour first half!
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Post by showgirl on Feb 2, 2018 15:58:55 GMT
Yes and at the Old Vic to boot!
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Post by partytentdown on Feb 2, 2018 21:34:05 GMT
Has anyone seen this? I have a £10 ticket but had no idea it was this long and I'm wondering... is it really worth it? Am I too old for this sort of thing? I've got 3 episodes of SAS Who Dares Wins to catch up on.
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Post by crowblack on Feb 2, 2018 22:29:40 GMT
Off to see it tomorrow, though I'm seeing John in the afternoon too, so I'll probably be a bit zombified - I'll add my thoughts on Monday when I'm back. Erin Doherty has been brilliant in everything I've seen her in so far (Wish List, Junkyard, My Name is Rachel Corrie, A Christmas Carol OV), and Edinburgh friends say she's the highlight in this, too.
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Post by Phantom of London on Feb 3, 2018 0:56:26 GMT
Ah I am seeing Network in the afternoon, then going to see the Divide in the evening, should’ve done it the other way round though.
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Post by argon on Feb 3, 2018 12:59:51 GMT
Act 4 proved to be less mundane than the previous 3 acts. The time incremental jumps were too short which just added to the vast mundaneness but explains why this was a 2 part play initially - the need to bloat. I stayed after the interval predicting (wrongly) the time shift would be more dramatic. Since this is an autobiography of the protagonist from childhood to adulthood (18yrs old) a year on year account of her life proved too much for me. Within all the bloat text exists a half decent play.However, to have any chance of seeing this would require condensing the first 3 acts into 1 act.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Feb 3, 2018 15:14:47 GMT
I have 2 x £10 tickets to The Divide on Thursday night if anybody wants them. Good seats in the middle of the Dress Circle. Blooming work clash
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Post by Phantom of London on Feb 3, 2018 23:17:29 GMT
Ouch
I am no expert on Ayckbourn, I have only seen about 15 of his plays, he is a playwright not noted for going above people’s heads, Well he did mine. So had to visit Michael Billington in the interval, urge people to do the same. Generally I enjoy Ayckbourn subtle genius, no one captures British mannerisms and idiosyncrasies any better. Well he missed the hole here and some.
One thing I loathe and that is young adults, playing children, with that forced child accent, it is like nails going down the blackboard, this play had it From to start to finish.
On a positive note I found David Plater lighting design exceptional, the cast played their roles well, despite my reservations.
1 ⭐️
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Post by crowblack on Feb 5, 2018 9:57:29 GMT
I thought the play was a mess, but was expecting that from the summer reviews - Erin Doherty, though, is brilliant and was worth the trek to London for me (I don't know what Phantom's accent issue is!). I thought the staging was excellent (I went with my lighting-cameraman brother to see Deathwatch at the Printroom a couple of years ago, so we added David Plater's name to those we look out for in shows!).
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Post by partytentdown on Feb 5, 2018 20:43:04 GMT
I didn't go.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 18:28:03 GMT
I had a cheap ticket for this (known in my household as a "Channel 5er") but I saw the synopsis and then saw the running time and I just thought to myself, "I simply cannot be faffed".
So I stayed at home.
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Post by Steve on Feb 8, 2018 0:10:37 GMT
Tonight was press night, though it wasn't when I booked. Saw Judi Dench, who I assume was there to see her daughter; Alex Gaumond and John Dagleish, who I assume came to support their Christmas Carol castmate, Erin Doherty; Haydn Gwynne and Rob Brydon, who probably just came to see the play, and Mark Lawson, who came to teach aspiring actors voice projection, as his cheerful chortling could be heard from outer space, I'm sure. At first, I thought the production had been much maligned, as the first half was the kind of dystopian scifi that I love, with clear rules, and well-defined characters. Erin Doherty's lead character, Soween, was particularly well-developed, and through her bright wide brainwashed dystopia shaped eyes, I was able to see our world anew, through her character's indignance and shock, which was wonderful. Especially as Doherty is so good at projecting willfullness, wonder, and hilariously conflicted emotions. I rated the first half set-up a solid four stars, for entertainment, insight and Doherty's delicious performance. (Some spoilers follow) However, in the second half, Ayckbourn decides she's not actually the main character, just the story's narrator. Further, Richard Katz's Rudgrin, the best developed male character in the story thus far, who hankers back to the subversive art and pervasive heterosexuality of our present, is effectively written out. Instead, undeveloped characters now take centre stage, which is utterly frustrating, given two hours investment in the above two characters. Further, the heretofore well-defined dystopian world is now fudged and misjudged by Ayckbourn, drastically reducing and confusing the stakes. Is this world deliberately malevolent or just a bureaucratic mess? Ayckbourn doesn't really answer. It's so frustrating to have such a great setup get such a hashed payoff. The cast is an abundance of talent, however, and it was a joy to watch them all work. Finty Williams combined compassion and fury in a cocktail to make her watching Mum proud. Erin Doherty was dazzling, ever compelling, funny and sympathetic, even when her character is sidelined by the playwright, to the evident pleasure of her former castmates. The second half I rate two stars, for story implosion, so I rate the whole worthwhile experience 3 stars.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Feb 9, 2018 8:25:44 GMT
I am finding the news paper reviews of this boring to read, god knows what the real thing is like ...
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Post by crowblack on Feb 9, 2018 9:22:12 GMT
The Telegraph now loves it for the reasons I didn't - the dubious, 70s sexual politics.
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Post by michalnowicki on Feb 9, 2018 9:42:15 GMT
Can someone tell me how the Old Vic version differs from the one in Edinburgh (apart from being much shorter). What content was removed? Feel free to PM me or put stuff in spoiler tags. Ta!
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Post by crowblack on Feb 9, 2018 12:03:25 GMT
probably one of those "marmite" plays It was frustrating, in that it could have been good - they'd clearly thrown some excellent production talent at it - but the play itself was badly structured and some of the plotlines (especially the last few minutes) made you go 'urgh' (keep pestering her, dorky boy, and she'll come round...).
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Post by dlevi on Feb 10, 2018 16:37:35 GMT
This has to rank as one of the worst plays I've seen in a long long time. I don't think Mr Ayckbourn has anything left to say. The last few plays have been long plays about small subjects but because he is one of our great playwrights and men of the theatre I've been willing to cut him some slack. But now that's over. There was no drama in this play - there was no "play" to speak of. In the programme notes he says that it was written first as a novel and I believe it. Unlike some of the other posters on here who admired the performances and the production values, I found everything to be of a low standard. This is a disaster as far as I'm concerned and if Edinburgh was as bad as the notices from there seemed to be then they should've cancelled it.
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