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Post by theglenbucklaird on Mar 1, 2016 1:21:30 GMT
It does feel good to wake up to a world where Mark Rylance has an Oscar. ![:)]() Even though it should have been Jacob Tremblay.  Boo |
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Post by vickster51 on Mar 1, 2016 12:23:18 GMT
For once I'm quite happy with the results and enjoyed staying up to watch. I was pleased that Spotlight and Mark Rylance won, although my lack of faith in the Academy's voting meant they cost me the work sweepstake! Overall I was happy for Leo. It's not the biggest "acting" part in terms of speaking etc., but he is very effecting in the role and he holds the sweeping epic The Revenant together. Visually it's beautiful, so pleased it won for direction and cinematography. Still need to see Room but was pleased Vikander won for The Danish Girl, as she was the heart of that film for me. Also great that The Big Short won adapted screenplay as the big is quite dense and yet the film was quite easy to follow.
The song surprised me. Perhaps they all voted for the one they'd actually heard, from a film they knew? Also pleased the crazy thrill ride that is Mad Max did so well.
Overall a pretty fair result.
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Post by peggs on Mar 1, 2016 13:06:57 GMT
A child actor can win an Oscar - several have been nominated. It's just that people tend not to vote for them. I read an article about child actor nominations which suggested that when they are nominated it tends to be as a supporting role even if (as was the case for Room) they have as much screen time etc. at the other lead and arguably should be in the main acting category. The author both suggested that more child actors deserve nominating and that people don't always know how to judge child acting in comparison to adults and subsequently there aren't that many nominations. |
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Post by mallardo on Mar 1, 2016 13:24:10 GMT
A child actor can win an Oscar - several have been nominated. It's just that people tend not to vote for them. I read an article about child actor nominations which suggested that when they are nominated it tends to be as a supporting role even if (as was the case for Room) they have as much screen time etc. at the other lead and arguably should be in the main acting category. The author both suggested that more child actors deserve nominating and that people don't always know how to judge child acting in comparison to adults and subsequently there aren't that many nominations.
Supporting your thesis, Anna Paquin won the Oscar in 1994 at age 11 for her role in The Piano. It was for Best Supporting Actress.
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Post by joem on Mar 1, 2016 14:23:38 GMT
The Oscars are normally not too close to the type of cinema I enjoy watching most. Frankly, more unterested in who wins Cannes, Berlin or a host of other awards.
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Post by kathryn on Mar 1, 2016 18:07:52 GMT
A child actor can win an Oscar - several have been nominated. It's just that people tend not to vote for them. I read an article about child actor nominations which suggested that when they are nominated it tends to be as a supporting role even if (as was the case for Room) they have as much screen time etc. at the other lead and arguably should be in the main acting category. The author both suggested that more child actors deserve nominating and that people don't always know how to judge child acting in comparison to adults and subsequently there aren't that many nominations. I think the general feeling with a child is that they're just not sure what to attribute to the child and what to attribute to the director - especially when the subject matter is difficult, and so the child may have been completely protected from what's actually going on in the film. The Room director has said there were scenes where he was literally telling Jacob what to do - how to move - as though he was operating a puppet. He's also said that he matured into a true actor over the course of filming. |
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Post by peggs on Mar 1, 2016 20:55:16 GMT
Yeah it's obviously very different to an adult so perhaps is not comparable I don't know?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 13:13:58 GMT
Nominations Announcement - live coverage has just started on BBC News tv channel.
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Post by ldm2016 on Jan 24, 2017 13:25:21 GMT
Nominations Announcement - live coverage has just started on BBC News tv channel. Cue nominations based on someone's amazing achievement of being a particular colour rather than being the far easier great actor....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 13:33:09 GMT
1) Click the Member's name (at top left of post)
2) Click the dropdown box (at top right of post)
3) Click "Block Member"
4) Tick all boxes and Block Member!
5) Life is good
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Post by ldm2016 on Jan 24, 2017 13:36:30 GMT
1) Click the Member's name (at top left of post) 2) Tick the four boxes 3) Click "Block Member" 4) Life is good Blocked by someone on the Internet who thinks EVERYONE who voted for Brexit is racist, ignorant and uneducated and has no objections to people being nominated for Oscars based on their colour....
Nah, I'll still sleep tonight.
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Post by Marwood on Jan 24, 2017 13:38:42 GMT
The only film out of all the ones nominated that I have seen is Manchester By The Sea - good luck to Michelle Williams (although her role in Manchester is not much more than an extended cameo), and Casey Affleck.
Mel Gibson getting the nod for best director, I'm guessing they'll be keeping him well away from the alcohol if he decides to attend?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 13:43:49 GMT
Manchester By The Sea - good luck to Michelle Williams (although her role in Manchester is not much more than an extended cameo) It's more than an extended cameo. She appears in several scenes, years apart, at quite different key points in her relationship with Casey Affleck's character. Brilliant performance! |
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Post by Marwood on Jan 24, 2017 13:44:54 GMT
She's in it for about 5 - 10 minutes tops.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 13:48:58 GMT
[screams in frustration]
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Post by Marwood on Jan 24, 2017 13:51:50 GMT
'Clicks "Block Member" '
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Post by ldm2016 on Jan 24, 2017 13:59:59 GMT
Nominations Announcement - live coverage has just started on BBC News tv channel. Cue nominations based on someone's amazing achievement of being a particular colour rather than being the far easier great actor....
Well, I wasn't wrong was I...
Tokenism is undermining everything those who carry it out with good intentions do...
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jan 24, 2017 16:21:15 GMT
Cue nominations based on someone's amazing achievement of being a particular colour rather than being the far easier great actor....
Well, I wasn't wrong was I...
Tokenism is undermining everything those who carry it out with good intentions do...
I'm curious, what amazing white actor or director has been discriminated? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 16:45:14 GMT
Well, my social media has been all aflutter at Amy Adams not receiving a nomination, but I absolutely would not un-nominate Ruth Negga to make room for her. The sorry side of the anti-tokenism argument is the idea (conscious or not) that the white people are always the best and that they have to actively step aside to make space for the less-deserving-and-only-there-because-political-correctness POC. If non-white people have been nominated for awards, it is because the powers-that-be decided they deserve it. If a white person has not been nominated for an award, it is because the powers-that-be decided they did not make the shortlist. (Which sort of also applies vice versa, but with far more complexity due to institutionalised racism and all that jazz.  ) I would also like to follow up couldileaveyou 's question "what amazing white actor or director has been discriminated?" with "which nominated POC does not deserve their nomination?". Let's not make claims of tokenism if we're not willing to back them up in discussion. |
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Post by kathryn on Jan 24, 2017 17:14:05 GMT
Cue nominations based on someone's amazing achievement of being a particular colour rather than being the far easier great actor....
Well, I wasn't wrong was I...
Tokenism is undermining everything those who carry it out with good intentions do...
Really - who do you think has been nominated due to tokenism? Have you watched all of the nominated films? There are several I haven't seen yet because they're not out over here. I have no quibbles with the ones I have seen. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 18:30:37 GMT
Nominations Announcement - live coverage has just started on BBC News tv channel. Cue nominations based on someone's amazing achievement of being a particular colour rather than being the far easier great actor....
PLEASE tell us which actor of colour you think didn't give a great performance? To remind you, we have: Denzel Washington - Fences Ruth Negga - Loving Mahershala Ali - Moonlight Dev Patel - Lion Viola Davis - Fences Octavia Spencer - Hidden Figures Naomie Harris - Moonlight On another note, Moonlight is one of the best films ever made and I encourage everyone to see it when it is released in the UK mid-February. Jackie is also fantastic and is out now. |
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Post by Jon on Jan 24, 2017 18:31:06 GMT
Well, my social media has been all aflutter at Amy Adams not receiving a nomination, but I absolutely would not un-nominate Ruth Negga to make room for her. The sorry side of the anti-tokenism argument is the idea (conscious or not) that the white people are always the best and that they have to actively step aside to make space for the less-deserving-and-only-there-because-political-correctness POC. If non-white people have been nominated for awards, it is because the powers-that-be decided they deserve it. If a white person has not been nominated for an award, it is because the powers-that-be decided they did not make the shortlist. (Which sort of also applies vice versa, but with far more complexity due to institutionalised racism and all that jazz. ) I would also like to follow up couldileaveyou 's question "what amazing white actor or director has been discriminated?" with "which nominated POC does not deserve their nomination?". Let's not make claims of tokenism if we're not willing to back them up in discussion. I don't think Ruth Negga is the issue, Meryl being nominated for Florence Foster Jenkins is. I wish the Academy would stop nominating her so give others a chance Also in what universe is Dev Patel's role in Lion supporting!? It's a lead role in my eyes. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 18:52:58 GMT
Some people think because Dev is only in the second half of Lion that he's supporting. I think him and the child actor are co-leads though.
Anyway, Amy wasnt that great to me. Better than Meryl but not in any way better than Ruth Negga.
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Post by bellboard27 on Jan 24, 2017 19:00:41 GMT
Meryl should reprise her role for a song or two at the awards.
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