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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 12:06:13 GMT
I'm a big fan of plot twists in general. Loved the big plot twist in the latest season of Sherlock, loved the one if Fight Club etc.
I was just wondering do any of you know of great plot twists in musicals? The only one I can think of is Wicked.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 12:20:59 GMT
I wanted a plot twist in Titanic.
... the boat doesn't sink.
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Post by Michael on Nov 9, 2017 12:23:41 GMT
In Newsies, Katherine being Pulitzer's daughter.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 13:03:14 GMT
In Jesus Christ Superstar Judas betrays Jesus, commits suicide and then... ends up in Heaven with the angels!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 13:36:05 GMT
In Jesus Christ Superstar Judas betrays Jesus, commits suicide and then... ends up in Heaven with the angels! That was all your fault, Caiaphas! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 14:00:05 GMT
Mea culpa! Which remninds me of another one... Sweeney Todd. We all know that the beggar woman is his wife but he doesn't... and then he kills her!  And then there's Ben's Big One in Love Never Dies. Christine has a son, and he turns out to be... (***drum roll***)... the Phantom's son!  Well we didn't see that one coming!  |
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Post by Michael on Nov 9, 2017 14:01:13 GMT
Does Miss Trunchball being Miss Honey's evil aunt in Matilda count?
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Post by adrianics on Nov 9, 2017 14:34:06 GMT
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels comes to mind, a twist so big they actually have a track on the cast album with John Lithgow warning not to listen any further if you haven't seen the show:
{Spoiler - click to view}
Catherine is The Jackal, and she's been conning Lawrence and Freddy the entire time
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Post by duncan on Nov 9, 2017 16:29:08 GMT
The entire premise of Our House hinges on a plot twist and then decides to run both ways with it.
Jerry Springer hinges on Jerry being shot, which takes the second half into very different territory from the first half.
The Women in White, well she has a secret, a terrible secret, a secret, a terrible secret, a secret that she must tell, a terrible secret, a secret - that everyone can guess anyway.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Nov 9, 2017 16:39:43 GMT
The Beggar Woman is the wife in Sweeney Todd?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 9, 2017 16:53:15 GMT
Are we not bothering with spoiler warnings in this thread then?
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Post by Michael on Nov 9, 2017 17:02:00 GMT
Well, I think they'd be slightly ridiculous in a thread named "Musical Plot Twists" - what else would you expect in such a thread?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 17:04:27 GMT
The Beggar Woman is the wife in Sweeney Todd? Have I spoilt it for you? |
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Post by couldileaveyou on Nov 9, 2017 17:14:09 GMT
The Beggar Woman is the wife in Sweeney Todd? Have I spoilt it for you? ooh sorry Caiaphas, I didn't see you posted it before! The Mystery of Edwin Drood has the ultimate plot twist, since the finale changes every night |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 17:17:46 GMT
Sorry, couldileaveyou. I misunderstood your question mark! (I see how you meant it now...!  ) |
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Post by anthony40 on Nov 9, 2017 17:49:41 GMT
Frozen has a MASSIVE plot twist
There's a plot twist in Miss Saigon.
There are also plot twists in Sondheim's A Little Night Music
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Post by anthony40 on Nov 9, 2017 17:53:47 GMT
Also in the musical Ordinary Days
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 9, 2017 17:58:32 GMT
Well, I think they'd be slightly ridiculous in a thread named "Musical Plot Twists" - what else would you expect in such a thread? Lists of musicals with brilliant plot twists, without revealing the plot maybe... |
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Post by Michael on Nov 9, 2017 18:06:22 GMT
Don't think just mentioning the show's name without the actual plot twist makes much sense
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 9, 2017 18:11:26 GMT
Don't think just mentioning the show's name without the actual plot twist makes much sense “Sunset Boulevard when you find out who Max really is” Not difficult! However if no one else cares then neither do I, so spoil away! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 18:16:13 GMT
Why don’t you change the title of the thread if it upsets you that much?
(Though I’d have thought that anyone who was sensitive about having plots spoilt wouldn’t be looking through the thread in the first place!)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 18:27:47 GMT
In 1999, I remember a casual acquaintance asking me if I'd seen a newly released horror movie yet, as she knew I was keen on spooky stuff. I told her I hadn't but was looking forward to going that evening. "Oh, I won't tell you what happens," she replied, "but there's a REALLY BIG TWIST." Now, I'm kind of an idiot, happy to take things at face value and constantly being surprised by the various directions a plot will take, but with those words ringing in my ears, I worked out the big twist in the first two minutes of the film and spent the rest of the running time looking for evidence rather than just enjoying the film. TL;DR - even knowing there's a twist in a film/show is a spoiler in itself. Surely it would be far more reasonable to add "caution: many spoilers" to the subject than to hope to be able to leave this thread unspoiled.  |
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Post by Michael on Nov 9, 2017 18:34:50 GMT
Why don’t you change the title of the thread if it upsets you that much? I just did. (Though I’d have thought that anyone who was sensitive about having plots spoilt wouldn’t be looking through the thread in the first place!) This. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2017 18:40:20 GMT
We can all breathe easily now...  |
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Post by couldileaveyou on Nov 9, 2017 18:56:29 GMT
There's a plot twist in Miss Saigon. What's the plot twist in Miss Saigon? |
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Well we didn't see that one coming! 
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