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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 11:32:13 GMT
The word "yous" *shudder* "Are yous coming to the cinema tonight?" Just NO. It’s actually a useful term, used regularly as a plural version of ‘you’, which then becomes singular.
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Post by Tibidabo on Apr 13, 2019 11:40:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 12:19:55 GMT
Huge pet hate: the phrase "lost his/her battle with cancer". It's horribly disrespectful. People who die from cancer don't "lose" a battle. You and I have had this conversation before I know but “Just say DEAD” is one of my personal rants/pet peeves. To the point yes I wrote that as a line in a play. And while we’re on it not a language thing per se but when people talk about the “Rainbow Bridge” for pets it makes me want to do violent things...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 12:21:34 GMT
Also as above, actually yes Welsh speakers are well aware theirs is a difficult at times utterly ridiculous language so have little problem saying so!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 12:24:11 GMT
Excuse the triple post my phone is being a ‘mare but on the dead/passed on thing. Others personally are welcome to use what fits of course I don’t mean they shouldn’t just that I personally want to retch at the phrase “passed on” coming out of my mouth.
Related note anyone interested in expanding their understanding of death, “Ask A Mortician” on YouTube/twitter and their books are a great insight into where our relationship with death in the modern age has gone awry
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 13, 2019 13:24:10 GMT
This is taking us away from the language gripes but that example reminds me of an infuriating thing that has sadly and annoyingly become embedded as standard practice in documentaries: the "trailer within the show". They all now without exception start with about 2 minutes of what we're about to see, before we see it. Always with a formulaic voice-over about how we're "going on a JOURNEY." Then you get the from-to's: "From Arctic tundra... to sultry rainforest. From vast deserts... to towering cities. From the highest mountains... to the deepest oceans." etc etc etc. And all in that stupid up-and-down presenter intonation. Next is "Still to come" followed by more stuff we'll sodding-well see in a few minutes anyway. And at the end, they do the whole "We've been on an amazing journey" so they can show us the stuff WE'VE ALREADY F***ING SEEN. To round it off, everything is presented as though they're talking to a playgroup. In a way it is a language thing as it all sounds like it's aimed at 5-year-olds. Factual programming has deteriorated badly in quality over the last 20 years or so. The recent one-off by Anthony Gormley about the origins of art was a rare instance of a genuinely interesting documentary that treats its audience as adults without the need for fluffy-wuffyness and whooshy graphics. Oh goodness yes, that drives me mad. I can only think that it's a cost-saving measure, having what feels like only half the programme showing proper footage & the rest the same footage just re-hashed. Channel 4 even did a "coming up" bit during their Formula One race highlights programme the other day. Surely with sport the element of surprise is important?! And while we’re on it not a language thing per se but when people talk about the “Rainbow Bridge” for pets it makes me want to do violent things... I've not come across that before & hope I never do. The only context in which I've ever used the phrase "Rainbow Bridge" is when discussing Das Rheingold!
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Post by Backdrifter on Apr 13, 2019 13:36:48 GMT
A phrase that seems to have mushroomed up all over brexit discourse is "kicking the can down the road". There's something very specifically annoying about phrases being used because the speaker has heard other people use it about that particular thing. For anyone else who watches televised football - certain commentatorisms wind me up, such as if a team begins quite positively they've "made a bright start" but the one that baffles me is the frequent reference to a player having "dropped a shoulder". It sounds like an especially careless thing to do. And don't get me started on a team "asking questions" of the opposition. Or someone making "a mazy run." I realise I've taken us off into tropes and clichés but I do think they still count as a language thing. when people talk about the “Rainbow Bridge” for pets it makes me want to do violent things... That is the first I've ever heard that.
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Post by Backdrifter on Apr 13, 2019 13:47:16 GMT
Channel 4 even did a "coming up" bit during their Formula One race highlights programme the other day. Surely with sport the element of surprise is important?! You'd think! In the last few years the news has been trailed - "Coming up on today's 10 o'clock news..." which is bad enough but the BBC went through a (mercifully brief) phase of trailing the news FOR THE COMING WEEK. Yes, the NEWS.
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Post by peggs on Apr 13, 2019 14:00:09 GMT
I think or at least I have always thought 'dropped a shoulder' meant when a player suggests they're going to go one direction/do a certain pass etc by dropping, lowering, changing the balance of their body, to confuse players from the opposing team and then in fact do something different. Years ago my dog worked how which way I was going to kick the tennis ball by the shape of my body and would move themselves accordingly to intercept it so to get it to go more than a foot i'd have to dummy a fake move. I suppose in a literal sense you can only drop a shoulder if it's raised in the first place (or it falls off!) but my physio tells me with such regularity how raised one of my shoulders is that it never sounds odds to me.
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 13, 2019 18:36:43 GMT
In the last few years the news has been trailed - "Coming up on today's 10 o'clock news..." which is bad enough but the BBC went through a (mercifully brief) phase of trailing the news FOR THE COMING WEEK. Yes, the NEWS. That one wins in the stupidity stakes!
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Post by daisy24601 on Apr 17, 2019 9:50:57 GMT
Just came to add this one as I just saw it again and it winds me up. "I'm so OCD!" For a start it stands for Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, you don't say "I'm so disorder". Also it's a serious mental condition (which I used to have which is probably part of the reason it bothers me), it's not liking things neat and clean! Bah!
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Post by TallPaul on Apr 18, 2019 12:00:04 GMT
I've just seen a sign, which was itself large enough to be a hazard, warning of "Mobile roadworks ahead".
As there were no 'operatives' to be seen, I shall probably never know if it's the road that is mobile, or the work!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2019 12:14:28 GMT
On the subject of signs, I pass one on the way to work every day that winds me up: "Fast Signs: More than Fast. More than Signs"
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 18, 2019 12:28:42 GMT
In restaurants where you’re in a mixed group of ages and genders and the ‘server’ (that’s another one all on its own) refers to you collectively as “guys”.
”Hi guys I’m your server Mindy, can I get you some menus?”
1. We are not all male 2. If you can call us all guys, why can’t we call you a waitress? 3. Yes, that’s what we’ve come for, unless you'd like us to guess
So let’s correct that for Mindy, shall we?
“Hi everyone, I’m Mindy. I’ll be back in a moment with your menus”
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 18, 2019 12:33:10 GMT
This one is gaining ground
“Leaning into...” for example: “Mindy is really leaning into that new way of greeting customers. Well done Mindy!”
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2019 13:32:01 GMT
This one is gaining ground “Leaning into...” for example: “Mindy is really leaning into that new way of greeting customers. Well done Mindy!” Meaning she'll like literally* give it a go for a few hours and forget it, going back to the usual. *urgh
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Post by Backdrifter on Apr 19, 2019 22:10:05 GMT
This one is gaining ground “Leaning into...” for example: “Mindy is really leaning into that new way of greeting customers. Well done Mindy!” I'm starting to feel bad for Mindy. Don't browbeat Mindy. Waitressing can be a tough job without customers itemising what's wrong with your friendly greeting! 'Guys' has long been genderless now, annoying as that may be. Its not Mindy's fault! I've heard "lean in" used in a way that doesn't literally mean that and it was the title of that book but I've never really understood this new use of it. The one that's been winding me up for the last year or two is that at some point we stopped merely contacting people, we now apparently REACH OUT to them.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 4:29:35 GMT
The one that's been winding me up for the last year or two is that at some point we stopped merely contacting people, we now apparently REACH OUT to them. I hate that one. It brings to mind the clammy hands of the undead thrusting through the soil as they struggle to escape the grave.
I have a loathing for business-speak in general. Another phrase that's on the rise is "thank you for giving me the opportunity to help you", which I take as (a) this is about me, not your ridiculous little problem, and (b) nobody cares about you enough to invest even the most trivial amount of effort in responding to you. Somehow all these stock responses manage to convey a message of "We have utter contempt for you, but we're being so polite about it there's nothing you can latch on to that will prove it".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 16:08:16 GMT
“Reach out” basically means “I’m trying to give the impression I phoned them but actually I just sent an email”
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Post by Backdrifter on Apr 21, 2019 11:55:38 GMT
I don't know if "life hack" has made an appearance here yet but it deserves to.
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Post by showgirl on Apr 21, 2019 14:18:17 GMT
“Reach out” basically means “I’m trying to give the impression I phoned them but actually I just sent an email” A Canadian colleague where I volunteer uses this expression, which I had never heard before and assumed was a N American one. Alas, it has now crept in here but always makes me picture the speaker literally reaching out, as if to touch or even embrace the other person, which would generally be as inappropriate as impossible.
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Post by ruby on Apr 21, 2019 20:58:05 GMT
"Living my best life".
Well, that's fine and dandy but can you do it as far away as possible from me please.
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Post by Tibidabo on Apr 21, 2019 22:51:33 GMT
Could it actually be possible that, thanks to Line of Duty, the entire nation has now learnt to spell definitely correctly?🎉🕺🥇
Maybe next week Jed Mercurio's laptop could have a shot at those sodding apostophe's that get into plural's all over the place?
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Post by justfran on Apr 22, 2019 16:22:34 GMT
"Living my best life". Well, that's fine and dandy but can you do it as far away as possible from me please. I agree this is such an annoying phrase, especially when used with # or someone actually saying the word “hashtag”
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 22, 2019 18:52:13 GMT
Starting sentences with “I mean...”
People wouldn’t and don’t talk like that. Or if they did the circumstances in which they would start a sentence like that are rare. It’s an affectation.
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