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Post by ali973 on Oct 30, 2017 6:41:33 GMT
Does anyone know if there are any discounts for this? 55 quid for the last row in stalls is a bit steep.
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Post by Jan on Oct 30, 2017 7:17:51 GMT
Tonight's performance cancelled after Robert Glenister fainted and collapsed 15 mins in. Was worrying  That's terrible. It's now been announced that he is okay. The Sun (okay, not my favourite news source) has a report of the incident, which includes the information that two weeks ago he lost a case against HMRC that left him liable for ten years' National Insurance contributions to the tune of £147,547. Quite a few BBC actors are in the same position, their attempt to avoid income tax and National Insurance payments by setting themselves up as service companies (prompted by the BBC themselves it has to be said) has been disallowed. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 8:46:10 GMT
Tonight's performance cancelled after Robert Glenister fainted and collapsed 15 mins in. Was worrying That's terrible. It's now been announced that he is okay. The Sun (okay, not my favourite news source) has a report of the incident, which includes the information that two weeks ago he lost a case against HMRC that left him liable for ten years' National Insurance contributions to the tune of £147,547. Perhaps they can do a collection for him at the end of each show |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 9:33:00 GMT
The fainting collapse may be unrelated to his tax avoidance. Everyone else pays NI contributions, most of us without fainting.
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Post by bordeaux on Oct 30, 2017 9:42:36 GMT
That's terrible. It's now been announced that he is okay. The Sun (okay, not my favourite news source) has a report of the incident, which includes the information that two weeks ago he lost a case against HMRC that left him liable for ten years' National Insurance contributions to the tune of £147,547. Quite a few BBC actors are in the same position, their attempt to avoid income tax and National Insurance payments by setting themselves up as service companies (prompted by the BBC themselves it has to be said) has been disallowed. What's a BBC actor? Is there such a thing as an ITV actor? It's actors, who presumably work for whoever will pay them, who are doing this (and newsreaders and others) and people such as the head of the Student Loans Company, the former Head of IT of HM Tax and Revenue, ironically. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 9:49:35 GMT
Quite a few BBC actors are in the same position, their attempt to avoid income tax and National Insurance payments by setting themselves up as service companies (prompted by the BBC themselves it has to be said) has been disallowed. What's a BBC actor? Is there such a thing as an ITV actor? It's actors, who presumably work for whoever will pay them, who are doing this (and newsreaders and others) and people such as the head of the Student Loans Company, the former Head of IT of HM Tax and Revenue, ironically. A BBC actor is an actor working on a production for BBC television. Over 100 BBC on-air stars who used Personal Service Companies to avoid paying National Insurance are under investigation by HMRC, and Robert Glenister was the Test Case. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4980342/Hustle-star-Robert-Glenister-stung-150k-tax-bill.html |
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Post by Jan on Oct 30, 2017 11:33:30 GMT
They avoided both income tax and employees NI, and the BBC avoided employer’s NI. I have some sympathy with the talent as according to Paxman the BBC obliged them to set up in that way.
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Post by bellboard27 on Oct 30, 2017 11:50:31 GMT
The fainting collapse may be unrelated to his tax avoidance. Everyone else pays NI contributions, most of us without fainting. Where's my smelling salts? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 12:14:41 GMT
Most of us pay our NI contributions on a month-by-month basis, I think anyone would be prone to swooning if they were asked to pay ten years at once in a single sitting.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 12:26:02 GMT
Quite a few BBC actors are in the same position, their attempt to avoid income tax and National Insurance payments by setting themselves up as service companies (prompted by the BBC themselves it has to be said) has been disallowed. What's a BBC actor? Is there such a thing as an ITV actor? It's actors, who presumably work for whoever will pay them, who are doing this (and newsreaders and others) and people such as the head of the Student Loans Company, the former Head of IT of HM Tax and Revenue, ironically. I think an ITV actor is the same as a BBC actor but they can't go from job to job. They need a break in between. |
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Post by Jan on Oct 30, 2017 13:30:16 GMT
What's a BBC actor? Is there such a thing as an ITV actor? It's actors, who presumably work for whoever will pay them, who are doing this (and newsreaders and others) and people such as the head of the Student Loans Company, the former Head of IT of HM Tax and Revenue, ironically. I think an ITV actor is the same as a BBC actor but they can't go from job to job. They need a break in between. If they'd genuinely been freelance during the tax year involved and worked for both ITV and BBC then they would have been OK - the problem arises when people are effectively BBC staff working for no-one else and then set up as a company. I'm a bit surprised actors are being caught by this as by the nature of their job you would think they are available to work for different employers. |
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Post by bordeaux on Oct 30, 2017 14:42:26 GMT
I think an ITV actor is the same as a BBC actor but they can't go from job to job. They need a break in between. If they'd genuinely been freelance during the tax year involved and worked for both ITV and BBC then they would have been OK - the problem arises when people are effectively BBC staff working for no-one else and then set up as a company. I'm a bit surprised actors are being caught by this as by the nature of their job you would think they are available to work for different employers. I see, thanks. I must admit it seems odd that the BBC employs actors these days; I would have thought every actor was pretty much self-employed even if they only appear in BBC shows in one particular year. I thought we'd been moving for a couple of decades to a situation where most BBC work/lots of programmes were outsourced. |
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Post by n1david on Oct 30, 2017 15:10:36 GMT
I think an ITV actor is the same as a BBC actor but they can't go from job to job. They need a break in between. If they'd genuinely been freelance during the tax year involved and worked for both ITV and BBC then they would have been OK - the problem arises when people are effectively BBC staff working for no-one else and then set up as a company. I'm a bit surprised actors are being caught by this as by the nature of their job you would think they are available to work for different employers. There’s also the issue that so much TV is now made by independent production companies. “Ashes to Ashes” was made by Kudos for the BBC, so I would have expected his contract would have been with them and not the BBC directly, although I don’t know how contracts are typically written in this area. This makes it even more likely that he would work for multiple companies during any tax year. I’m an independent consultant (in a non creative field) and work for several companies over the course of the year and my PSC has never been challenged. General wisdom is that it starts to become an issue if you work for one company and only one company for over 18 months (although there are persistent rumours of the policy being tightened). I see more of an argument for,say Paxman or Huw Edwards to be employees as they have or had a regular gig, whereas an actor might work for a BBC series for six months and then not again for several years. But then, I am not a lawyer, accountant or HMRC investigator. |
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Post by Jan on Oct 30, 2017 15:30:15 GMT
Yes, depends on the actor’s contract, you might think only a soap actor would be caught up on this. I knew someone who worked via a service company 100% for a single employer for 30 years representing quite a loss to the exchequer. Can’t see that Glennister’s bill should be a problem, this play should be lucrative for him ?
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Post by ali973 on Oct 30, 2017 18:23:21 GMT
Really? I can't see any day seats/25 for any show. It's crazy that the cheapest ticket in the stalls is 55.
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Post by floorshow on Oct 30, 2017 20:39:52 GMT
If they'd genuinely been freelance during the tax year involved and worked for both ITV and BBC then they would have been OK - the problem arises when people are effectively BBC staff working for no-one else and then set up as a company. I'm a bit surprised actors are being caught by this as by the nature of their job you would think they are available to work for different employers. There’s also the issue that so much TV is now made by independent production companies. “Ashes to Ashes” was made by Kudos for the BBC, so I would have expected his contract would have been with them and not the BBC directly, although I don’t know how contracts are typically written in this area. This makes it even more likely that he would work for multiple companies during any tax year. I’m an independent consultant (in a non creative field) and work for several companies over the course of the year and my PSC has never been challenged. General wisdom is that it starts to become an issue if you work for one company and only one company for over 18 months (although there are persistent rumours of the policy being tightened). I see more of an argument for,say Paxman or Huw Edwards to be employees as they have or had a regular gig, whereas an actor might work for a BBC series for six months and then not again for several years. But then, I am not a lawyer, accountant or HMRC investigator. Its all about IR35 at the moment, big public sector/quango clampdown. |
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Post by TallPaul on Oct 31, 2017 13:38:54 GMT
Ashes to Ashes was Philip Glenister, not Robert. There should be a law against siblings going into the same profession and/or having the same surname!
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Post by n1david on Oct 31, 2017 14:35:50 GMT
Ashes to Ashes was Philip Glenister, not Robert. There should be a law against siblings going into the same profession and/or having the same surname! Oops. No point in me claiming I just picked that as a random series, is there? |
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Post by japhun on Nov 2, 2017 14:08:51 GMT
Watching today’s matinee!  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2017 16:24:11 GMT
Watching today’s matinee! I was there also Sorry to have missed you |
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Post by Phantom of London on Nov 2, 2017 22:07:40 GMT
If there was a swear box on the stage, it would be overflowing and some, David Mamet is the master of the "f" bomb, no doubt about that, subtlety is something he doesn't do. In this play that is slightly sexist, slightly misogynist and slightly racist, however it is also very brilliant, how Mamet capture the dog eat dog, cut throat Salesman's office, where everyone is out to earn a nickel and a dime, whatever the consequences, no matter whos toes or more accurately whos head you stand on.
Saw the first 2 scences, that had a scintillating Robert Glenister, Oliver Ryan, Stanley Townsend and Don Warrington in it and you feel Christian Slater is on next, how is he going to eclipse these performances? He cuts the mustard alright and he is rather ruthless and excellent, here he breathes fire into the charachter he's playing, you feel he would stitch up his own grandmother and on this superb performance, you wouldn't bet against him doing so.
Saw this on Broadway 5 years back with Al Pacino. This was that performance, this is this performance and it was is miles better.
5 Stars.
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Post by argon on Nov 3, 2017 0:29:46 GMT
Slater & Townsend impressives performance the rest just didn't manage to reach their level.
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Post by hulmeman on Nov 11, 2017 7:47:56 GMT
A quote from the Daily Mirror web page:
"Hustle actor Robert Glenister broke down onstage during a performance of Glengarry Glen Ross in London on Friday night, according to audience members.
The 57-year-old sparked worry among theatregoers who said the curtain came down and the performance was paused for half an hour before his co-star Christian Slater came back out to make an announcement."
I hope he recovers well.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 9:10:53 GMT
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Post by Boob on Nov 12, 2017 14:56:28 GMT
I really hope he has a speedy recovery. His is the real standout performance in this production, which I found beyond tedious.
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