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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 24, 2017 21:28:28 GMT
Ban it
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2017 9:28:59 GMT
Make America Great Again ?
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Post by bellboard27 on Aug 25, 2017 10:55:26 GMT
Ban it Doesn't your costume fit you any more?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 25, 2017 12:16:38 GMT
Ban it Doesn't your costume fit you any more? Errr.... that's not a costume
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Post by Jan on Aug 25, 2017 12:31:58 GMT
I once knew a visiting American who went to this on the grounds he thought it would be a sort of carnival. After 5 minutes he beat a hasty retreat.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2017 12:40:44 GMT
I once knew a visiting American who went to the Edinburgh Military Tattoo on the grounds he thought it would be a celebration of body art. After 5 minutes the armed personnel beat retreat.
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Post by Tibidabo on Aug 25, 2017 12:55:10 GMT
I once sat next to a visiting Oxonian who thought the production of Lettice and Lovage we were viewing was actually a stage version of Rosemary and Thyme.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2017 13:04:42 GMT
Pourquoi Burly?
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Post by TallPaul on Aug 25, 2017 13:12:18 GMT
Burly can growl for himself, but probably because it no longer has anything at all to do with celebrating West Indian culture, or the current residents of Notting Hill.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 25, 2017 13:16:04 GMT
Crime-fest Drug-fest Violence-fest If it were any other minority it would have been banned or moved to a park where it could be properly controlled.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 25, 2017 15:07:42 GMT
^^^i just LOL'd at that. I mean, even I know The Seagul is a comedy
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Post by alece10 on Aug 25, 2017 16:55:22 GMT
I lived in Tenerife for many years and they have the 2nd largest carnival outside of Rio. When returned to live in UK went to Notting Hill Carnival thinking it would be similar. I lasted 10 minutes. It was scary. Not been back since.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2017 22:32:27 GMT
I've never been, heard good and bad things about it. Just hope it passes off okay
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Post by Someone in a tree on Aug 26, 2017 7:43:42 GMT
I'm glad I've been but it wasn't my thing mostly because of the crowds
It is interesting that the amount of crime it attracts and yet it still goes on ...
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Post by anthony40 on Aug 26, 2017 10:05:38 GMT
Happy Carnival! Have fun. Be safe.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 14:46:34 GMT
I've been once, never again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 14:55:45 GMT
I'm glad I've been but it wasn't my thing mostly because of the crowds It is interesting that the amount of crime it attracts and yet it still goes on ... 450 arrests at last year's carnival, among the 2,000,000+ attending. It's hardly Sodom.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 15:24:14 GMT
I've been once, never again. Same here. It was an experience, but so was falling off a ladder.
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Post by dippy on Aug 27, 2017 10:04:58 GMT
I went when in the early nineties when I was about 7 with my mum, gran and sister, I seem to think I enjoyed it and took a whole film of photos! That's the only time I've been. Now I'm always very happy when I'm not in London during it because when I'm there I get hear the delightful noise of it. Very happy to be in Devon at the moment with the odd cow mooing and birds tweeting, far better than the boom boom boom I'd hear there.
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Post by alece10 on Aug 28, 2017 8:00:50 GMT
I'm glad I've been but it wasn't my thing mostly because of the crowds It is interesting that the amount of crime it attracts and yet it still goes on ... 450 arrests at last year's carnival, among the 2,000,000+ attending. It's hardly Sodom. Not sure where the 2 million plus figure comes from, I think you could probably half that number to be more realistic. Also a lot of the arrests are for serious crimes like possession of offensive weapons, GBH, AHB, drugs and even murder in the past. Its not just a few pick-pockets. I have an issue with the cost to the tax payer for policing this event which costs millions every year. I think the event should be a ticketed event in an open area like a park, not in the narrow residential streets. Many local people have to move out for the weekend and their windows and doors are boarded up for the duration. Could you imagine if you had to do that to your house in your street? If it was a ticketed event then the policing/security could be paid for out of ticket sales with no cost to the tax payer and you would also have some kind of control as to who gets in to the event with security checks/knife arches etc. I know the tradition of Notting Hill Carnival will be taken away but the event is now just too big costly to continue as it is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 8:03:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 8:07:51 GMT
Many local people have to move out for the weekend and their windows and doors are boarded up for the duration. Could you imagine if you had to do that to your house in your street? Given the Carnival has been running 50 years now, there won't be many people left in the area who moved in before it began.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 8:14:10 GMT
450 arrests at last year's carnival, among the 2,000,000+ attending. It's hardly Sodom. If it was a ticketed event then the policing/security could be paid for out of ticket sales with no cost to the tax payer and you would also have some kind of control as to who gets in to the event with security checks/knife arches etc. I know the tradition of Notting Hill Carnival will be taken away but the event is now just too big costly to continue as it is. In 2003, the Carnival generated £93,000,000. It more than pays for itself. Its absence would make London socially and financially poorer.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 13:51:53 GMT
Many local people have to move out for the weekend and their windows and doors are boarded up for the duration. Could you imagine if you had to do that to your house in your street? Given the Carnival has been running 50 years now, there won't be many people left in the area who moved in before it began. So? Still doesn't make the notion that people have to board their houses up to protect them any less alarming! Anyway, I live at the opposite end of London and coming home on the Tube last night encountered a lot of loud, drunk, barely able to stand up Carnival-goers who'd clearly overdone it considerably. So the impact is not just limited to one London borough...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 13:56:27 GMT
Given the Carnival has been running 50 years now, there won't be many people left in the area who moved in before it began. So? Still doesn't make the notion that people have to board their houses up to protect them any less alarming! It makes it a bargain they've entered into voluntarily. Still does't make the notion of a joyous, world-famous carnival passing by your doorstep any less appealing.
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