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Post by Jan on Sept 4, 2017 12:48:10 GMT
In the early years of the Swan,I attended a jolly, raucous show in which, early on, Guy Henry's character chased another through the audience at Ground level. I decided to take the side of the person being chased, so I pressed my feet firmly on the back of the seat in front and blocked Guy Henry's path. I hadn't yet oriented myself in the play and I didn't have much clue who either character was. Guy Henry looked a bit bemused and tried to charm his way past me but I didn't relent so he had to give up his chase and return to the stage where he pointed at me and sneered that I thought he was a "baddie". Actually, I thought he was a posh git, but there we are... Well done. Anything that inconveniences Guy Henry has my full support - Guy .............. Henry, as I call him
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Post by couldileaveyou on Dec 8, 2017 23:17:25 GMT
Back from the second preview. The first act is monstrously dull, a masterclass in boredom and wasted occasions. It takes a genius to make some thrilling scenes so bland and inconsistent and Ms. McIntyre really is your woman for this businesses. The second act is significantly better, especially the last 15 minutes (apart from a very confusing final moment), but the first was really at the level of the last Coriolanus. Acting is average, with the exception of Martin Hutson's brilliant Saturninus. The weakest link is Stefan Adebgola, whose Aaron doesn't have a drop of the fierceness that his speeches suggest.
Absolutely hated the West Side Story like prologue, it went on for centuries.
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Post by blacksheep on Dec 17, 2017 15:16:11 GMT
I saw this last week and thought it was absolutely frightful; summed up by Titus's line: "When will this fearful slumber have an end?"
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Post by martin1965 on Dec 17, 2017 15:57:45 GMT
I saw this last week and thought it was absolutely frightful; summed up by Titus's line: "When will this fearful slumber have an end?" Obvs saw a different show to me. First production?
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Post by blacksheep on Dec 20, 2017 18:30:34 GMT
Obvs saw a different show to me. First production? No. You?
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Post by crabtree on Dec 20, 2017 18:40:24 GMT
It's a shame as I have a great fondness for this barmy play, and the RSC's last production, in the swan, was superb and delivered on all levels.
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Post by Jan on Jan 9, 2018 7:54:13 GMT
I've seen this play four times (plus the film) and this one was the least satisfactory of the four but it was still head and shoulders above the other three offerings in this dismal RSC Romans season. At least the director had a go here with some evidence of imagination. The whole was a bit of a rag-bag of good things and bad things with a lack of a single vision for the play.
Good were the overall pacing and momentum of the production, and some of the characterisations like Tamora's sons.
Bad were the absurd West Side Story opening and the totally pointless interactions with the front row of the audience, charitably we could call it Brechtian but like a few things in the production it just happened once and was not sustained - having Titus drop out of character and indulge in 1970's light entertainment banter with the audience is just foolish. As noted above the initial scenes with the Roman crowd were also forgotten later. Also I agree that the final image presented to us was puzzling.
The worst scene of the lot was Tamora appearing as Revenge, audience members who didn't know the play must have been baffled. There is only one approach to this scene (brilliantly done in the Deborah Warner production) - you first have to establish beyond doubt that all the characters in the play think that Titus has gone mad and it helps if the audience believe this too. Then you can believe he could be swayed by the pantomime Tamora arranges.
The best thing about this Roman season was that I paid £10 for a top price centre stalls seat for each of the four productions - the RSC's fall from grace has some compensations.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 9:10:57 GMT
I sat in the front row for this. My top tip for directors: if you are planning audience interaction, don't expect the audience to interact in a baby strangling scene.
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Post by romeo94 on Jan 14, 2018 11:38:53 GMT
For someone unfamiliar with the play, is this production worth seeing?
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Post by skullion on Jan 14, 2018 11:51:30 GMT
I saw this yesterday afternoon, I didn't realise until I'd got home that we'd had an understudy playing the role of Aaron. I'm not use he was any stronger in the role than the main actor apparently was.
I don't have any history with this play, never seen it before on stage or screen and aside from a bare bones knowledge of the plot didn't know much more about it. On that basis I quite enjoyed it, I liked David Troughton's performance, and across this season I thought Martin Hutson has been good. The play itself seems a bit mad but that is what it is.
I didn't care for the dance fighting at the start, added nothing to the story and just looked a bit rubbish, I can't say I'm ever a fan of audience participation either.
So, having seen some less than glowing comments about this production, I'm curious to know what a good production of this play does look like, and what else should have been changed in this to make it better?
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Post by Jan on Jan 14, 2018 12:59:10 GMT
So, having seen some less than glowing comments about this production, I'm curious to know what a good production of this play does look like, and what else should have been changed in this to make it better? The Deborah Warner version was very stark and uncompromising, it treated the play entirely seriously with no laughs at all except in the black comedy of the pie scene. No set to speak of. Much less gore than in this version but as it was in a small space (Swan/The Pit) just the threat of violence made it very claustrophobic. Plus of course Brian Cox in terrifying form. www.theguardian.com/stage/2013/jan/01/brian-cox-first-rsc-performanceHer productions of this, Coriolanus and Julius Caesar have been the best work of hers I've seen. Contrast with this production where the tone was all over the place. That scene with a regiment of Titus' sons and one of them barking out incomprehensible orders like something out of Dad's Army - that was just a cheap laugh bolted on to the production, not something that served the text at that point.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 13:15:09 GMT
It's a gruesome play, but it's also a very funny play. However the jokes are already in the text, there's no need to invent cheap bits of business to try and get more laughs. I liked this production well enough, but nowhere near as much as I loved Michael Fentiman's 2013 production.
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Post by martin1965 on Jan 14, 2018 15:35:24 GMT
It's a gruesome play, but it's also a very funny play. However the jokes are already in the text, there's no need to invent cheap bits of business to try and get more laughs. I liked this production well enough, but nowhere near as much as I loved Michael Fentiman's 2013 production. Yes i liked that production, Stephen Boxer is a v underrated actor.
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Post by Jan on Jan 14, 2018 18:04:01 GMT
It's a gruesome play, but it's also a very funny play. However the jokes are already in the text, there's no need to invent cheap bits of business to try and get more laughs. I liked this production well enough, but nowhere near as much as I loved Michael Fentiman's 2013 production. Yes i liked that production, Stephen Boxer is a v underrated actor. Yes that production was better, but it gained from being in the Swan rather than a bigger space. The Douglas Hodge one at the Globe was also good.
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Post by skullion on Jan 14, 2018 19:35:55 GMT
Thanks for the responses, do you think putting it on in a bigger space like the Barbican led them to thinking they had to add more humour to it, or was that just a mis-step that might have happened with this director wherever it was performed?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 19:49:54 GMT
For someone unfamiliar with the play, is this production worth seeing? I would say so - it's flawed but a good opportunity to see a full scale production of it. Particularly if you can get a ticket for £10 (eg TodayTix rush tickets, or Jan Brock mentioned getting top price stalls for £10 as day seats)
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Post by crabtree on Jan 14, 2018 20:30:00 GMT
Yep I loved the 2013 RSC production - I think they got it absolutely right. And I'm old enough to remember the monumental RSC Roman season at the aldwych in the 70s....Janet Suzman initially playing Lavinia and then Judy Geeson. I remember John Wood in it as well. a great white box set with a tilting upper level.
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Post by skullion on Jan 14, 2018 21:04:51 GMT
There were several empty seats in the front row of the stalls yesterday which slightly surprised me given those are usually pretty cheap. I'm not sure if they deliberately left them empty for the bits when the cast were sat in them or interacting with the audience.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 21:32:44 GMT
Thanks for the responses, do you think putting it on in a bigger space like the Barbican led them to thinking they had to add more humour to it, or was that just a mis-step that might have happened with this director wherever it was performed? It's Blanche McIntyre, she's into broad humour. Sometimes it works beautifully, but maybe not quite so much here.
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Post by lynette on Jan 14, 2018 23:16:36 GMT
Yep I loved the 2013 RSC production - I think they got it absolutely right. And I'm old enough to remember the monumental RSC Roman season at the aldwych in the 70s....Janet Suzman initially playing Lavinia and then Judy Geeson. I remember John Wood in it as well. a great white box set with a tilting upper level. We certainly put the senior into senior member, eh? I remember that Gleeson one. We took my new sister in law and brother in law to it thinking we were seeing Ant and Cleo. I got the shows muddled. Needless to say they have refused to go to the Theatre with us ever since.
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Post by Jan on Jan 15, 2018 6:53:36 GMT
There were several empty seats in the front row of the stalls yesterday which slightly surprised me given those are usually pretty cheap. I'm not sure if they deliberately left them empty for the bits when the cast were sat in them or interacting with the audience. I think some front row stalls are held back as £10 day seats but for productions with lots of seats available on the performance day the box office designate "best available seats" as day seats and sell them first so if the performance doesn't sell out those front row seats will be left unsold. I did not see the 1970s Romans season - that was the season Trevor Nunn directed all four Roman plays in a single season and understandably had some sort of nervous breakdown at the end.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 17:29:03 GMT
Yep I loved the 2013 RSC production - I think they got it absolutely right. And I'm old enough to remember the monumental RSC Roman season at the aldwych in the 70s.... Janet Suzman initially playing Lavinia and then Judy Geeson. I remember John Wood in it as well. a great white box set with a tilting upper level. She's some actress that Janet Suzman. I can't see her as Judy Geeson at all.
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Post by crabtree on Jan 15, 2018 18:30:56 GMT
I stand corrected for clumsy grammar.
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Post by skullion on Jan 15, 2018 20:56:20 GMT
I stand corrected for clumsy grammar. I liked him in Frasier but not sure I'd see him as Titus
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 9:05:01 GMT
I stand corrected for clumsy grammar. Just kidding . .
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